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23 Jan 2017 16:35 |
Hi Lisa
I see you have found your thread now.
So no worries!
Prickles. :-)
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23 Jan 2017 15:28 |
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU These are mums maternal parents The Parkins did adopt my grandma, is there any info of a biological father and how did you find adoption records. I was told they were lost in a fire years ago and i wouldn't be able to find out anything further.
Marriages Jun 1929 CASTLE Ernest Nicholls Nottingham 7b 677 Nicholls Hilda Castle Nottingham 7b 677
still in the same area
Deaths Jun 1952 CASTLE Hilda 42 Nottingham 3c 334
Births Dec 1909 NICHOLLS Hilda Nottingham 7b 342
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
First name(s) Mabel Last name Nicholls Relationship Servant Marital status Single Sex Female Occupation Wardmaid Domestic Age 21 Birth year 1890 Birth place Notts Hucknall Torkard Address Bagthorpe Nottingham Parish Nottingham County Nottinghamshire Country England Archive reference RG14 Registration district Nottingham Registration district number 430 Enumeration district 41 District number - Sub district Bulwell Sub district number 5 Census reference RG14PN20672 RD430 SD5 ED41 SN9999 Piece number 20672 Folio - Page - Other household member first name(s) -
Age in 1911: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1910 Relation to Head: Adopted Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Nottingham, England Civil Parish: Nottingham Search Photos: Search for 'Nottingham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 3 Beaconsfield Terrace Salisbury St Radford Registration district: Nottingham Registration District Number: 430 Sub-registration district: Nottingham South West ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 20497 Household Members: Name Age John Arthur Parkin 23 Ellen Parkin 22 Hilda Nichols 1
so its looks like they took her in and brought her up as official adoption didnt start till c1927
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23 Jan 2017 15:20 |
Hello
I want to sincerely apologise for the delay in reading and writing. I've been so ill ive been unable to have sight of GR. I am a kind genuine person and im sorry for late reply. I've now found this thread and im speechless with the amount of help ive received. Thank you to all who have replied above
Kindest regards and very much appreciated Lisa x <3
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greyghost
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30 Jan 2016 15:10 |
Just checked my out box PH - the message I sent hasn't been opened.
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PricklyHolly
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30 Jan 2016 11:35 |
Such a shame there is no reply from Lisa.
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26 Jan 2016 17:11 |
PM'd Lisa a couple of days ago re all replies on thread, but haven't heard.
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PricklyHolly
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24 Jan 2016 19:36 |
Hello Lisa ????
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24 Jan 2016 09:51 |
William Nichols in the 1861 England Census Name: William Nichols Age: 53 Estimated birth year: 1808 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Nichols Gender: Male Where born: Brisley, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Horningtoft Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich County/Island: Norfolk Country: England
Registration district:Mitford Sub-registration district:North Elmham
Household Members:
William Nichols 53 (Ag Lab) Emily Nichols 48 Born London Willam Nichols 22 Abram Nichols 20 John Nichols 6
Emily Nichols in the England, Select Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 Name: Emily Nichols Burial Date: 9 Aug 1869 Burial Place: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Burial Age: 58
William Nichols in the 1871 England Census Name: William Nichols Age: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Horningtoft County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Mitford Sub-registration district: North Elmham
Household Members:
William Nichols 52 John Nichols 15 (Son) William Lusher 23 (Son in Law) Emily Lusher 21 (Daughter) Albert Lusher 7 Months (Grandson)
Marriages Sep 1870 (>99%) LUSHER William Mitford 4b 483 NICHOLS Emily Mitford 4b 483
William Nickolls in the England, Select Norfolk Parish Registers, 1538-1900 Name: William Nickolls Burial Date: 10 Sep 1873 Burial Place: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Burial Age: 66
Prickles. ;o))
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24 Jan 2016 09:35 |
Going back to George and Sarah's marriage...... George Nicholas in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name:George Nicholas Gender: Male Marriage Date:19 Jan 1866 Marriage Place:Weasenham-St. Peter, Norfolk, England Father: William Nicholas Spouse: Sarah Dickerson
This might possibly be George before he married Sarah........
George Nichols in the 1861 England Census Name: George Nichols Age: 24 Estimated birth year: 1837 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Horningtoft Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district:Mitford Sub-registration district: North Elmham
Household Members:
Mary Dix 64 Sarah Dix 35 Rebecca Dix 30 Emily Dix 26 Ellen Dix 22 Jane Dye 32 Thomas Wm Dye 3 George Nichols 24
George Nickols in the 1851 England Census Name: George Nickols Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's name: William Nickols Mother's name: Emily Nickols Gender: Male Where born: Whissonsett, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Horningtoft
County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district:Mitford Sub-registration district: Dereham
William Nickols 43 Brisley, Norfolk, England (Ag Lab) Emily Nickols 38 London, England George Nickols 15 Whissonsett, Norfolk, England William Nickols 13 Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Abraham Nickols 11 Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Emily Nickols 1 Horningtoft, Norfolk, England
George Nickolls in the 1841 England Census Name: George Nickolls Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Horningtoft Hundred: Launditch County/Island: Norfolk Country: England
Registration district: Mitford Sub-registration district: North Elmham
William Nickolls 30 Emily Nickolls 29 Sarah Nickolls 7 George Nickolls 5 William Nickolls 2 Abraham Nickolls 3 Mo
George Nichols in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: George Nichols Gender: Male Baptism Date: 3 Apr 1836 Baptism Place: Whissonsett, Norfolk, England Father: William Nichols Mother: Emily
William Nichols in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: William Nichols Gender: Male Marriage Date: 2 Nov 1832 Marriage Place: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Spouse: Emily Ashwin
William Nichols in the Norfolk, England, Bishop's Transcripts, 1685-1941 (Banns) Name: William Nichols (Single Man) Gender: Male Marriage Date: 2 Nov 1832 Marriage Place: Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Spouse: Emily Ashwin (Single Woman)
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24 Jan 2016 08:25 |
I have been looking at possible marriages for Mabel.
I got quite excited over this one........
Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%) NICHOLLS Mabel Basford 7b 329 Swann Thomas Basford 7b 329
The problem is, there is a death for a Mabel Swann in 1918.....
Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%) Swann Mabel 33 Basford 7b 364
Age 33.........so that would mean she was born 1885......whereas Mabel was apparently born in 1891.
Still a possibility though.
There was son born to the above marriage......
Births Mar 1912 (>99%) Swann John T Nichols Basford 7b 415
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PricklyHolly
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23 Jan 2016 19:57 |
I am out of here for tonight.
My eyes have turned inside out!
:-D
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greyghost
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23 Jan 2016 19:11 |
Probably living near to some of my gang who lived at various addresses on Carlton Hill.
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23 Jan 2016 18:07 |
Ah!.........Here is Mabel Nicholls in the 1911 census.........
Mabel Nickols in the 1911 England Census Name: Mabel Nickols Age in 1911: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1891 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Carlton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 139 Carlton Hill Carlton Marital Status: Single Occupation: Pattern Girl Registration district: Basford
Household Members:
Fredk Wm Tipping 29 Florence Tipping 29 Alfred Charles Tipping 6 Harry Tipping 4 Frederick Tipping 2 Mabel Nickols 20 (Married 6 years.........3 children born and living)
Florence is the daughter of William and Lydia Millington.
(Lydia being the half sister to Frances)
Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%) Millington Florence Nottingham 7b 588 Tipping Frederick William Nottingham 7b 588
Nice to know they all stayed together as a family.
Lets hope that Lisa gets back to us.
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Chris Ho :)
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23 Jan 2016 17:43 |
Baptism County Norfolk Place Weasenham Church name All Saints Register type Unspecified Register entry number 427 Baptism date 19 Sep 1869 Person forename Frances Father forename George Father surname NICHOLLS Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Sarah
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
(from above, if anything else relating)
Chris :)
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23 Jan 2016 15:34 |
George and Sarah Nichols have moved to Nottinghamshire by 1881 when daughter Frances is with the Meuse's
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Felley, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Nichols Head Married Male 42 1839 Farm Labourer Horningtoft, Norfolk, England Sarah Nichols Wife Married Female 42 1839 - Norfolk, England Charles Deaney Boarder Single Male 21 1860 Coal Miner Buckinghamshire, England
and in 1891 have a Meuse grandchild with them
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Derby Road, Felley, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Nichols Head Married Male 52 1839 Agricultural Labourer Norfolk, England Sarah Nichols Wife Married Female 52 1839 - Norfolk, England Transcription Sarah A Mewse Granddaughter - Female 11 1880 - Nottinghamshire, England Joseph Alladine Boarder Single Male 20 1871 Groom Domestic Selston, Nottinghamshire,
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23 Jan 2016 15:26 |
Hi Lisa
Did the DNA test you used follow back on the female side only, or are you assuming that Hilda's father was of Afro Caribbean origin?
Nottingham archives MAY have something of use.
Just maybe, Mabel took out a court order against him, for child support. Or maybe Hilda was taken in as a ward before being placed with the Parkins.
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23 Jan 2016 14:49 |
Deaths Mar 1929 (>99%) Dyer Frances 59 Shardlow 7b 861
Frances Dyer in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name: Frances Dyer Probate Date: 21 Mar 1929 Registry: Nottingham, England Death Date: 24 Feb 1929 Death Place: Derbyshire, England
Of 41 Hemlock Avenue, Long Eaton, Derbyshire.
To Henry John Hurley retired engine driver.
Effects: £120 15s 1d
Amen.......Prickles.;o))
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23 Jan 2016 14:45 |
Frances's surname has been mis-transcribed as "Degar" on the 1911 census.
She is with the boarder Henry John "Henley?" who was with her in the 1901 census.
Frances Deger in the 1911 England Census Name: Frances Deger >>>>>Dyer on the image Age in 1911: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation to Head: Housekeeper Gender: Female Birth Place: Weasenham, Nerfock Civil Parish: Long Eaton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 41 Hemlock Avenue Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Housekeeper Registration district: Shardlow
Household Members:
Henry John Henley 49 (Railway Engine Driver) Frances Deger 41 Vena Blanche Henley 18 Mabel Florence Henley 15 Minnie Maud Henley 14 Reginald Frank Henley 6
The children's births were registered in the name of "Hurley"
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23 Jan 2016 14:14 |
William and Frances had a son who died in infancy.....
William John Dyer in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: William John Dyer Gender: Male Baptism Date: 24 Jan 1897 Baptism Place: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England Father: William John Dyer Mother: Frances Dyer
William John Dyer in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: William John Dyer Registration Year: 1896 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district Shardlow Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 506
William John Dyer in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: William John Dyer Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Registration Year: 1897 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Shardlow Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 328
How very sad to lose both your husband and child within a year of marriage. :-(
Off to see if I can find Frances on the 1911 census>>>>>>>>>>>.
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23 Jan 2016 14:03 |
BINGO!!!! :-D
Frances Nichols in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Frances Nichols Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 26 Birth Date: 1870 Marriage Date: 6 Apr 1896 Marriage Place: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England Father: George Nichols Spouse: William John Dyer
Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%) Nichols Frances Shardlow 7b 856 Dyer William John Shardlow 7b 856
Frances Dyer in the 1901 England Census Name: Frances Dyer Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Weasenham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Long Eaton Ecclesiastical parish: Long Eaton St Lawrence Town: Long Eaton County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England
Registration district: Shardlow Sub-registration district:Stapleford
Household Members:
Frances Dyer 31 (Widow)
Boarders..... Henry Haney 39 (Married) Railway engine Driver) Walter Haney 12 Vene Haney 8 Mabel Haney 5
Deaths Dec 1896 (>99%) Dyer William John 28 Shardlow 7b 341
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