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I'm pretty sure this is the right record:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7776936

Reference: ADM 159/65/2643
Description:
Name Feeney, John
Register Number: 2643
Division: Royal Marine Light Infantry: Plymouth Division
When Enlisted/Date of Enlistment: 12 May 1881
Date of Birth: 12 June 1855

Birthplace is Manch*****

Date of marriage Ju** 1886

There is a partially obliterated date next when rank of sergeant was achieved.

That's great information thanks.

In view of the birth date given above, this would be more likely to be John's birth reg:

Births Sep 1855 (>99%)
Feeney John Warrington 8c 110

I have several relatives who gave their birth places as Manchester when their births had been registered in Warrington.

At that time included in the registration was a place called WINWICK WITH HULME which comprised of Hulme and Winwick which adjoined each other.

Dea x

Oh, well, forget Bernard and Ann!

But can't see John with a blacksmith father John in 1861 or 1871.

Hi Marie Celeste. I'm going through all the research you all did. You think that John's birthday is 12th June 1855 which would have made him 31 at his marriage in July 1886 but on his marriage certificate it says he's 30. Could that be wrong?

Hi Marie Celeste. I'm going through all the research you all did. You think that John's birthday is 12th June 1855 which would have made him 31 at his marriage in July 1886 but on his marriage certificate it says he's 30. Could that be wrong?

Hi, Marie Celeste, you kindly submitted the marriage record for Beatrice and John. There are no birthdays on the certificate. If I buy the marriage certificate will it also have their birthdays?

Marie Celeste, I got the record you recommended about his royal navy experience and his marriage date is the right one so it must be the right person. Thanks for putting me on to that as I wouldn't have known how to find it. So his date of birth is 12th June 1955

I'm getting involved discussing this with my friend Sarah. I found a newspaper entry with his death in 1907, Plymouth I think, which mentions RMLI and Pembroke Street. So I think it's him.
Problem is neither of us can find a suitable birth entry on GRO Matching either 12th June 1855, or 13.5.1856 both John Feeney, revealed on RMLI service records from national archives.
Has anyone any ideas please? are Catholic records not in GRO, and what about military births if there is such a thing?

Friend Gill

Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births, so his may simply not have been registered.

The GRO has CIVIL registrations

The 1907 death was for a man aged 50 in AMJ qtr, so certainly born later than June 1855, IF the person registering the death had calculated accurately

What are you trying to prove?

Did you investigate the Warrington birth posted by Dea?

GRO version showing mms:

FEENEY, JOHN mms KEELY
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in WARRINGTON Volume 08C Page 110


That could fit a June birth.


EDIT:
Or maybe not - this could be that John in1881, and if so, he's not the one who's in the RMLI in 1881:

John Feeney
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John Feeney
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Gender: Male
Where born: Warrington, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Tipton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 1 Toll End Rd
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Puddler
Registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors:
Piece: 2867
Folio: 10
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Billingham 68
Thomas Billingham 20
John Feeney 2

Name: John Fancy
[John Feeney]
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Warrington, Lancashire
Civil Parish: Tipton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 80 Bridge Road, Toll End, Tipton, Staffordshire
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Puddler Iron Worker
Registration district: Dudley
Registration District Number: 372
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 17389
Household Members:
Name Age
John Fancy 55
Matilda Fancy 58
Hannah Fancy 20
Florence Bourne 21

Oh well, not him!

Name: John Feeney
Publication Year: 1902
Address: 98 Pembroke street, D
Residence Place: Devon, England
Occupation: Shopkeeper

Described as 'Naval Pensioner' in 1901, so the death 'fits'

Thanks for all your useful input. We did look at the Warrington birth and came to same result, it's not him. I'm not too good at this, but I did try looking for any evidence of his father, in England, John Feeney, blacksmith. Nothing. So Sarah is stuck how to get to these roots without a concrete birth cert.
:-(

It might be worth buying the 1907 Plymouth death cert.

If nothing else, at least you'd know for sure if that's his death (or not).

Just to add
1911 shows his widow and children at 98 Pembroke Street , Devonport, signed very nicely by Beatrice FEENEY.

Just an addition, as we still need his roots. It's the right side of Manchester for him to join and make his Attestation in 1873 for the RNLI at Liverpool.
However still cannot locate him earlier with his family ???

1871. John Feeney, event Eccles, Lancashire
Place Barton on irwell, Sub District Barton on Irwell,
John Feeney servant age 18, occupation BAKER born Manchester

HE WAS A BAKER ON HIS ATTESTATION PAPERS two years later.
He may have upped his age for a job, but on 12th June 1873, he was exactly 18, his birthday.