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ArgyllGran
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6 Jan 2016 12:39 |
Alexander's parents were George and Mary, but his brother William is not the one who married Isabella.:
Alexander Urwin in the 1891 England Census Name: Alexander Urwin Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation: Son Father's name: George Urwin Mother's name: Mary Urwin Gender: Male Where born: Ryhope, Durham, England Civil Parish: Willington Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Willington County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Durham ED, institution, or vessel: 51 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4102 Folio: 53 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age George Urwin 32 Mary Urwin 20 William Urwin 11 - born Ryhope 1880 Alexander Urwin 9 George Urwin 7 Mary A Urwin 3 Christopher Urwin 6 Weeks
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6 Jan 2016 12:15 |
Thanks for the suggestion, Alviegal.
She doesn't have a middle name at birth or any census record to 1901.
But that's interesting - I'll bear it in mind. Haven't checked yet, but maybe Alexander is a relation of the William Urwin who married Isabella.
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5 Jan 2016 20:49 |
Don't suppose Emma had a middle name?
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) ALEXANDER Last name URWIN Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1907 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ ALEXANDER URWIN married one of these people MARGARET BOND, EMMA MAY CHARLTON District DURHAM District number - County Durham Country England Volume 10A Page 817
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 40 Commercial Street Willington Court Durham, Willington, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Alexander Urwin Head Married Male Coal Miner - Stone Man 28 1883 Rhyope Durham Transcription Emma May Urwin Wife Married Female - 25 1886 Gateshead Durham Transcription John Robert Urwin Son - Male - 2 1909 Esh Winning Durham Transcription George William Urwin Nephew - Male - 8 1903 Esh Winning Durham
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5 Jan 2016 12:06 |
Ah, doesn't look like my Emma.
That one has different YOB and POB:
Emma Lowery in the 1911 England Census Name: Emma Lowery Age in 1911: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1883 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: Consett, Durham, England Civil Parish: Stanley County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: Gardenia Garden Terrace West Stanley Marital Status: Married Registration district: Lanchester Registration District Number: 550 Sub-registration district: Tanfield ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 29859 Household Members: Name Age John Lowery 50 Catherine Lowery 49 Jane Annie Lowery 22 Thomas Lowery 19 John Lowery 17 Beatrice Redhead Lowery 3 James Lowery 24 - visitor -<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Emma Lowery 28 - visitor - <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< John Kenneth Lowery 2 - visitor
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5 Jan 2016 11:38 |
Many thanks for that, Chris. Excellent!
I had been hunting for Isabella and her sister Emma. Still haven't found Emma (1885 Gateshead) after 1901, but I can stop looking for Isabella now.
In case anyone feels like looking for Emma, this is NOT her: Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%) BENNETT Emma Charlton Sunderland 10a 1097 RODGERS Ernest Edward Sunderland 10a 1097
I've been wondering about this, but haven't been able to match up Emma with either Lowery or Yorke. [EDIT: Wrong Emma - see next post,] Theresa married John Turnbull.
Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%) CHARLTON Emma Lanchester 10a 697 LOWERY James Lanchester 10a 697 Parsons Theresa Lilian Lanchester 10a 697 Parsons Theresea Lilian Larchester 10a 697 Turnbull John William Lanchester 10a 697 YORKE Edwin James Lanchester 10a 697
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Chris Ho :)
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5 Jan 2016 07:38 |
(apologies if below already given)
Chris :)
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 (Ancestry)
Name: Isabel Charlton Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 7 Mar 1879 Father's name: Robert Charlton (Plasterer) Mother's name: Jane Charlton Parish or Poor Law Union: South Hackney St Augustine Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers (Abode, 22 Mallow Street)
edits (perhaps below?)
Marriages Jun 1895 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------- Charlton Isabel Chester le S. 10a 808 Urwin William James Chester le S. 10a 808
1901 (Find My Past) William J Urwin Head Married Male 27 1874 Builder's Cartman Birtley, Durham, England Isabel Urwin Wife Married Female 24 1877 - London, Middlesex, England Florrie Urwin Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Washington, Durham, England James F Urwin Son Single Male 1 1900 - Esh Winning, Durham, England Street Cumberland Street Parish Gateshead County Durham Municipal ward Central Registration district Gateshead Archive reference RG13 Piece number 4759 Folio 5 Page 1
1911 (at South Terrace Cornsay Colliery Court Durham, Cornsay. Registration district Lanchester) (now added below, no time this morning!)
1911 (Find My Past) William James Urwin Head Married Male Carter 37 1874 Durham Birtley Isabel Urwin Wife Married Female - 35 1876 London Florence Urwin Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Durham Washington James Frederick Urwin Son - Male School 11 1900 Durham Esh Winning Norman Urwin Son - Male - 5 1906 Durham Esh Winning Joseph Urwin Son - Male - 3 1908 Durham Cornsay Edward Urwin Son - Male - 2 1909 Durham Cornsay Address South Terrace Cornsay Colliery Court Durham Parish Cornsay County Durham Census reference RG14 PN29901 RG78 PN1731 RD550 SD3 ED2 SN14 (Married 16yrs, 6 children born, 5 living, 1 died)
Deaths Sep 1930 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- Urwin Isabel 52 Lanchester 10a 310
Deaths Mar 1920 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- URWIN William J 46 Lanchester 10a 430
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4 Jan 2016 21:11 |
Wow! Many thanks for all that, everyone!
Wonderful transcription in 1881 - and making Amelia male. I love the "Not living with husband" as part of the occupation in 1911.
At least she had a family to live with, as did Jane, whereas Robert ended up with nothing.
Another mystery solved - thanks to all.
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alviegal
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4 Jan 2016 20:46 |
Amelia now a widow even though Robert has been found in Newcastle stating he was single.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 100, Aqueduct Street, Preston, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Charlton Head Married Male 25 1876 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England Transcription Margaret A Charlton Wife Married Female 26 1875 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England Transcription >.Amelia Charlton Mother Widow Female 66 1835 House Keeper Kendal, Westmorland, England
She is saying she is married again here. Married 42 years, 3 children born, 2 still living....all scored out. Not Living With Husband has been added to her occupation. Robert in the workhouse in 1911 said he was widowed.
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 114 Aqueduct St Preston Lancashire, Preston, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place William Charlton Head Married Male Weaver Cotton 35 1876 Preston Lanc Transcription Margaret Alice Charlton Wife Married Female Weaver Cotton 36 1875 Preston Lanc Transcription Ivey Charlton Daughter Single Female - 5 1906 Preston Lanc Transcription Amelia Charlton Mother Married Female House Keeper 75 1836 Kendal
She dies in 1915.
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alviegal
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4 Jan 2016 20:19 |
Here is the marriage for John George Greener so he is the extra name on the marriage record posted at 4 Jan 2016 12:58 by AG.
First name(s) JOHN GEORGE Last name GREENER Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1878 MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN GEORGE GREENER married one of these people MARY THEW HAYS, ELIZABETH HALL District GATESHEAD County Durham Country England Volume 10A Page 820
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Chris Ho :)
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4 Jan 2016 19:40 |
Baptism: 30 May 1875 All Saints, Preston, Lancashire, England William Charlton - [Child] of Robert Charlton & Amelia Born: 27 Apr 1875 Abode: Durham Occupation: Plasterer Baptised by: Rupert Turner Register: Baptisms 1866 - 1876, Page 88, Entry 701 Source: LDS Film 1544765
Chris :)
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
(also his 1897 Marriage, mentioned by Choccy)
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malyon
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4 Jan 2016 18:33 |
that lod must mean lodger like the father
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alviegal
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4 Jan 2016 17:46 |
Here's the 1881 for William and Amelia, I think AG. Are you still looking for this? There is something written besides Son for William but am not sure what it is? Lod??
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 32, Senior Street, Preston, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Andrew Foster Head Married Male 68 1813 Iron Moulder At Works Lancashire, England Transcription Mary Jane Foster Wife Married Female 37 1844 Cotton Weaver Belmont, Cheshire, England Transcription >>Ameil Churlton Lodger Married Male 45 1836 Cotton Weaver Fell Side, Westmorland, England Transcription >>William Cluirlton Lod Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Preston, Lancashire, England
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ArgyllGran
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4 Jan 2016 17:22 |
1911, in Newcastle upon Tyne Workhouse.
Robert Charlton in the 1911 England Census Name: Robert Charlton Age in 1911: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation to Head: Inmate Gender: Male Birth Place: Durham, England Civil Parish: Elswick County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Marital Status: Widowed <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Occupation: Formerly Plasterer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Registration District Number: 558 Sub-registration district: Elswick ED, institution, or vessel: 36-37 Piece: 30614
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ArgyllGran
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4 Jan 2016 17:20 |
And 1901 - retired plasterer - now claiming to be single.
Robert Charlton in the 1901 England Census Name: Robert Charlton Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Male Birth Place: Durham, England Civil Parish: St Nicholas Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub-registration district: St Nicholas ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4783 Folio: 8 Page Number: 7 Household schedule number: 26
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ArgyllGran
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4 Jan 2016 17:16 |
Here's Robert in 1891. Married.
Robert Charlton in the 1891 England Census Name: Robert Charlton Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Gateshead Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Durham Country: England Occupation: Plasterer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Condition as to marriage: Registration district: Gateshead ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4180 Folio: 34 Page Number: 15
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ArgyllGran
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4 Jan 2016 17:08 |
Ah! Interesting, Choccy - thanks!
So if that's the case, it looks as if Jane was just saying she was married (as has already been suggested), and perhaps also Amelia was saying she was, in 1891, when maybe she and Robert were separated. By that time Jane had also separated from him, as she was calling herself Lovell again.
Wish I could find Amelia and son William in 1881, to see what she claims then.
As Robert was in the workhouse in 1881, it looks as if he'd left Amelia, or been kicked out.
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Choccy
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4 Jan 2016 15:14 |
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name:William Charlton
Birth Date:abt 1875
Marriage Date:21 Aug 1897
Marriage Place:Preston
Age:40
Document Year:1915
Residence Place:114 Aqueduct St, Preston
Regimental Number:21861
Regiment Name:L M L
Form Title:Short Service Attestation
Number of Images:8
William Charlton Self (Head) Margaret Alice Pollard Spouse Ivy Charlton Child Elsie Charlton Child
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Choccy
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4 Jan 2016 15:11 |
what about this? already married?
Marriages Sep 1869
CHARLTON Robert Preston 8e 808 Dickinson Amelia Preston 8e 808
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Barretts Court, Preston, Lancashire, England
Robert Charlton Head - Male 24 1847 - Durham, England (Plasterer) Amelia Charlton Wife - Female 34 1837 - Westmorland, England
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Brook Street, Preston, Lancashire, England Amelia Charlton Head Married Female 55 1836 Cotton Weaver Fellside, Westmorland, England William Charlton Son - Male 15 1876 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England Jane Batley Lodger Widow Female 55 1836 Cotton Weaver Preston, Lancashire, England
Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name:William Charlton
Gender:Male
Age:22
Birth Year:abt 1875
Event Date:21 Aug 1897
Parish: Preston, Lancashire, England
Spouse:Margaret Alice Pollard
Spouse Age:23
Father:Robert Charlton (Plasterer)
Spouse Father:William Pollard
Register Type:Parish Register
(original certificate on Ancestry)
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ArgyllGran
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4 Jan 2016 13:15 |
Oh, bother!
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Choccy
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4 Jan 2016 13:08 |
Two trees on Ancestry have Elizabeth JOURES marrying Robert CHARLTON
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