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Hi all
I'm trying to get my family tree done for my Dad (for Christmas), I have stalled at my dad's great grand dad George Spregg, 1911 census says b.1851, 1901 census says b. 1852, also found some Crime, Prisons & Punishment records for him with b. 1856...
I can't find any record of birth for him.
Any ideas how I progress further (there was another 'Spregg' family in Stow on the census's which I'm sure must've been related - my dad often asked questions when he was young but told no relation).
I would love to solve this mystery & appreciate any pointers (& apologies if I have posted incorrectly - I'm very new to this

Can you give us a few more details please.
Who did he marry, names of his children, so we can be sure to find the correct person on the census records.

Is this him?

Name: George Spregg
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Eliza Spregg
Birth Place: Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Stow on the Wold
Search Photos: Search for 'Stow on the Wold' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Stow St Edward
Town: Stow on the Wold
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: general labourer

Registration district: Stow on the Wold
Sub-registration district: Stow on the Wold
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2454
Folio: 24
Page Number: 39
Household schedule number: 253
Household Members:
Name Age
George Spregg 49
Eliza Spregg 46
Henry Spregg 17
Jack Spregg 13
Florence Spregg 11
Kate Spregg 8
Janet Spregg 5

if so, then this is same family in 1891

Name: George Spregg
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Spregg
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Maugersbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Stow on the Wold
Town: Stow on the Wold
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Stow On The Wold
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2038
Folio: 28
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
George Spregg 38
Eliza Spregg 35
Alice Spregg 13
Ellen Spregg 11
Harry Spregg 7
Fanny Spregg 5
John Spregg 3
Florence Spregg 1/12


and 1881

Name: George Spregg
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Eliza Spregg
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow On Wold, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Maugersbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: 9 The Pitts
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Ag Lab
Registration district: Stow On The Wold
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2563
Folio: 36
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
George Spregg 28
Eliza Spregg 26 born: Oddington, Gloucestershire, (1855)
Alice Spregg 3
Ellen Spregg 1
(not transcribed)

1911

Name: George Spregg
Age in 1911: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire
Civil Parish: Stow on the Wold
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County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: Camp Gardens, The Pits, Stow On The Wold, Stow
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Labourer and Builder
Registration district: Stow on the Wold
Registration District Number: 331
Sub-registration district: Stow on the Wold
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 270
Piece: 15489
Household Members:
Name Age
George Spregg 60
Eliza Spregg 56
Harry Spregg 27
John Spregg 23
Janet Spregg 15


states married 34yrs
children:- 10- 8 living and 2 died


..............so this looks to be the couples marriage:-

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
Field Eliza Stow on W. 6a 700
Spregg George Stow on the Wold 6a 700

If you buy a copy of the certificate it should give you his father's name which will help find him with more certainty on earlier census records.
Unfortunately this will take some time especially over the holidays, but without it you couldn't be 100% sure of finding the correct person.

???

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1853 (>99%)
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SPREAGH George Stow On Wold 6a 329


Andy

Yes, that's him - have just found his Mum & sisters but can't see his Dad, his Mum is Harriet Spregg b. 1821

Thanks

...his son, Harry, is my great grandfather :-)

1911 census says married 34 years so this would probably be the marriage:

Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
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Field Eliza Stow on W. 6a 700
Spregg George Stow on the Wold 6a 700

Possible 1871

Name: George Spratt
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Harriet Spratt
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Stow on the Wold
Town: Stow on the Wold
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district: Stow on the Wold
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 2655
Folio: 16
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Spratt 54 - born Wick -unmarried - washerwoman)
George Spratt 19
John Spratt 16
Charles Spratt 13
William Spratt 3

original looks like Spragg

(EDIT:- still living Market Place)

1861 ???

Name: George Sprague
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: 1851
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Harriett Sprague (unmarried)
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Stow on the Wold
Town: Stow on the Wold
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
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Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registraton district: Stow on the Wold
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Piece: 1790
Folio: 21
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriett Sprague 42
Sarah Sprague 15
Jane Sprague 12
George Sprague 10
John Sprague 6
Charles Sprague 3



1851???

Name: George Sprigg
Age: 14 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Harriet Sprigg
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Stow on the Wold
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Stow
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district: Bourton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 1970
Folio: 270
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Sprigg 30 born: Wick, Gloucestershire
Sarah Sprigg 5
Jane Sprigg 3
George Sprigg 14 Mo


No sign of a father. Harriet is noted as being unmarried.

thanks for your time everyone...how do I get the birth certificate (especially as I can't pinpoint the date/year)

Possible in 1861? Mother is unmarried:

George Sprague

in the 1861 England Census
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Name: George Sprague
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: 1851
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Harriett Sprague
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Stow on the Wold
Town: Stow on the Wold
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district: Stow on the Wold
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Piece: 1790
Folio: 21
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriett Sprague 42
Sarah Sprague 15
Jane Sprague 12
George Sprague 10
John Sprague 6
Charles Sprague 3

...or do you mean I get a copy of the marriage certificate?

ah ha - I will search Sprague, thanks :-)

Gloucestershire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938


Name:George Spregg
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:17 Jun 1877
Age:Full Age
Spouse: Eliza Field
Event Type:Marriage
Parish:Oddington, Gloucestershire
Parish as it Appears:Oddington
Register Type:Parish Registers


No father listed for George!
Occupation Labourer

One witness is Charles Spregg - his brother?

Andy

In which case this may be her in 1841

Name: Harriett Sprig
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Rissington Wick
Hundred: Slaughter (Lower Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Stow on the Wold
Sub-registration district: Bourton on the Water
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 366
Book: 8
Folio: 7
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Sprig 50
Harriett Sprig 22

Living in Wyck

wonder how the surname changed along the way...I guess I was actually a 'Sprague' before I married! Thanks again everyone

or Sprig or Spratt :-S

just re-read - thanks Andrew, Charles was the head of the other family is Stow at the time, brother sounds right to me!