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Well it's definitely still there. I made a point of looking this afternoon.

Haven't had a chance to research the history yet, but will do so soon.

Tim I will make it my mission to find out !

We couldn't find it easily on Streetview either , but I think it might still be there.

Even numbers are on the south side of the road and numbered from the west end of the road. ...ie Hythe going towards Folkestone
I think 120 is the last of the houses before a row of bungalows that are set back from the road.

If you look on Streetview for a house in the high teens eg. 114 - 118 you might be able to see house numbers on the garden walls and work out location of 120.

When possible,I will take a look at the area and see what I can find out about it.

Gwyn, do you know if 120 Seabrook Rd is still there? I can't locate it on Street view in Google and I wondered how big and how old it was. There was a sizeable family living there for it also to be housing mums-to-be. The nurse who lived there seemed to have developed her midwifery business by 1939 with another nurse at a place called The Nursery.

Tim

Tim
Thank you for the update.

I'm so pleased for you that your father's birth family are happy to have contact.

That is wonderful Tim.

Thank you for letting us know. :-D

Good to hear you have made contact Tim :-D

Many thanks to all of you for your help. I have, with the information you all helped to obtain, made happy contact with my dad's birth family. Moreover, it seems they have been searching for Dad for many years. Just sad that he's not here to witness it himself but at least the blanks in the past have now been filled.

Thanks again,
Tim

Hi Gwyn. Yes, Seabrook Road is where Dad was born and given as his mother's address.

He was born on 26th May 1926 but registered on 17th June that year.

His mother registered the birth.

At the end of the certificate, adjacent to the 'Name entered after registration' box, the text: "Adopted" Edward F. Webb Superintendent Registrar, is appended.

On your Dad's birth certificate was Seabrook Road given as his mother's address as well as his birthplace?
Did she register his birth and was it soon after the birth?

Thanks Prickly Holly. It's likely that she worked there and lived in the staff residences. She may have become a nurse but her occupation is given on my dad's birth certificate is shorthand typist.

Information about the hospital here.......

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vols43-4/pp147-153

Searching through electoral rolls I found this:

Marion Ada Hart
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Marion Ada Hart
Year: 1928
County or Borough: Westminster
Ward or Division/Constituency: Paddington and Poplar

Street address: Hospital

Not sure what to make of the hospital address.

Tim

Timothy you can submit a correction for that mistranscription, just take a look at the image and as your reason for the correction, state 'scanned GRO image'.

You can also add postems to any entries at freebmd that are relevant, giving a little info, and if you include your email address (always best to use an anonymous permanent online account like at gmail) anyone who searches for the same people will be able to contact you

The entry for Charles Edward Hart should read page 296- the original is quite difficult to read but has been transcribed wrongly.

Hi all. Dead computer now alive after new hard drive and a system re-build, and so I'm online again.

PricklyHolly: I noticed that the page numbers for the marriage entries for Charles Edward Hart (p286) and Olga Louisa E Burdett (p296) are out by ten pages. Is this significant? One would have thought the two would be on the same page. Having said that there are five entries on Edward's page and three on Olga's so one could imagine an incorrect entry in the original index. The scanned pages confirm the discrepancy.

Tim

what a mystery Gwyn!

but it's excellent to know who was at the address when Derek was born

it is certainly worth enquiring of the member with the sisters in her tree


Hollands in 1911 census

William Giles Holland 52 born Oxfordshire, house painter
Lizzie Marie Holland 42 born Bermondsey
Sydney W J Holland 15
Gladys Ada Holland 13
Evelyn Rose Holland 12
Doris Hettie Holland 11

it doesn't look likely there was any family connection



the Bowden-Hart child born 1935 appears to have a tree at this site with himself in it (or someone with the same name has) (and someone has the child born 1936)

I wonder whether this might be the most direct route to finding out about Marion

Just looked in Search all Members trees and someone called Gillian seems to have the 3 HOLLAND daughters in her tree.

Maybe she can help investigations.

Visited Folkestone library yesterday and looked in ERs, Pickfords and Kellys directories but found no mention of Marion's family.

I checked surname lists and although I found a Chas. HART in Folkestone at one point, he turned out to have a different middle name and spouse.

In the 1926 books( one for spring, one for autumn ) there is a family with surname HOLLAND at the birthplace.
A person W.HOLLAND was listed there in 1924 and 1925 and by 1929 some of their children are listed too.
ie. Doris Hettie
Evelyn Rose
Gladys Ada
(relationships not shown, but linked through checking 1911 census.)

This would seem to be the marriage of the parents in that household.

Marriages Sep 1894
Holland William Giles ...W. Ham 4a 142
Tyrrell Lizzie Maria ...W. Ham 4a 142

In 1930 copy of Kellys (and 1931)
a Miss Evelyn R.HOLLAND (nurse) is shown at that address.

I wonder if she is the link as to why the birth took place there?

Good luck Gwyn!

Prickles. .o))

PM received.
Will visit Folkestone library as soon as possible.