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Hello all trying free bmd but cant locate a family and marriage James Young born shoreditch 1842/43 married Martha Hendry in 1862 had 6 children trying to locate James's parents and siblings, parents marriage fathers name James mothers Mary but surname unknown not sure if a census look up can help with this? James and Marthas children if needed was James 1863, Frances 1870, Frederick 1872, Alice 1875, Florence 1877, Walter 1878

thanks in advance :-)

James's birth (from what you've said in your post) ??

Births Dec 1842 (>99%)
Young James William Shoreditch 2 407

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mill Street Road, Watton, Wayland, Norfolk, England

James Young Head Married Male 46 1815 Shoemaker Watton, Norfolk, England
Mary Young Wife Married Female 45 1816 - Devon, England
James Young Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Painter & Plumber Shoreditch, Middlesex,

Have you looked up any censuses yourself?

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James Young

in the 1851 England Census

Name: James Young
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Mary Ann Young
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Saham Toney
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: Swaffham
Sub-registration district: Swaffham
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Piece: 1831
Folio: 465
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Young 28
James Young 8
William Hendry 26 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< note name Hendry
Jane Hendry 27

Name James William Young
Gender Male
Christening Date 12 Oct 1842
Christening Place SAINT LEONARDS,SHOREDITCH,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 27 Aug 1842
Father's Name James Young
Mother's Name Susannah Ann

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Name James Young
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Hornsey, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District 6
Gender Male
Age 28
Marital Status Married
Occupation Painter
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1843
Birthplace Shoreditch, Middlesex
Entry Number 13
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/1336/0214

James Young Head M 56 Merton, Norfolk
Mary Young Wife F 55 Kingsbridge, Devon
Maud Jordan Adopted F 5 Kingston, Middlesex
James Young Son M 28 Shoreditch, Middlesex
Martha Young Daughter-in-law F 31 Watton, Norfolk
James Young Grandson M 8 Watton, Norfolk
Elizh Young Granddaughter F 0 Hornsey, Middlesex
William Bolton Lodger M 39 Yoxford, Suffolk
Mary Bolton Wife F 29 Ibstone, Berkshire
Thomas Forth Lodger M 20 Camberwell, Surrey

Oh fab thank you for the birth and christening info, no havent looked at any census's i dont know the sites to use am just trying to locate james william young born 1842 parents and their marriage i have his mother down as Mary born around 1818 devonshire from family notes but no maiden name

ok im taking all the census's in now james young did mary martha hendry and they def had a james together but ive not got an eliz(a) down i have a frances middle initial E so possibly this one born around 1870 looks like they adopted a child too

Mary Ann in the 1851 census which I posted, was born in Watton, Norfolk - not Devon.

It does look like the right family, though, as there are Hendry's in the same household. (brother-in-law and sister-in-law).

James senior isn't on the record, but seems to be assumed to be the head of the household, as none of the rest of them are "Head". Mary Ann is "wife".



EDIT:
Or am I getting the generations mixed up ? I'm confused!

there is definitely something odd! James married a Hendry, but it looks as thought his Mum was a Hendry going by that 1851?? :-S

James in 1881:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
64, Nevill Road, Stoke Newington, Hackney, London, England

James Young Head Married Male 38 1843 Master Boot Maker Emp: 1 Man Shoreditch
Martha Young Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Watton, Norfolk, England
James R Young Son Single Male 18 1863 Paperhanger Journeman Watton, Norfolk,
Frances E Young Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Middlesex, England
Frederick W Young Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Stoke Newington, Middlesex,
Alice M H Young Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Middlesex, England
Florence M Young Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Middlesex, England
Walter Young Son Single Male 2 1879 - Middlesex, England
Mary Young Mother Widow Female 63 1818 Laundress Devon, England
Emma Syrett Visitor Married Female 43 1838 Dressmaker Cambridge, Cambridgeshire

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: Mary Ann Hendry
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 27 Jan 1844
Marriage Place: Watton, Norfolk, England
Father: Rob'T. Hendry
Spouse: James Youngs
Spouse Father: James Youngs
FHL Film Number: 1565750
Reference ID: 19

Oh, well done, AustinQ!

I'm not going mad after all!

Marriage of Robert & Jane (the brother-in-law & sister-in-law from 1851):


William Hendry
mentioned in the record of William Hendry and Jane Fox
Name William Hendry
Spouse's Name Jane Fox
Event Date 17 Nov 1849
Event Place Saham-Toney, Norfolk, England
Father's Name Robert Hendry
Spouse's Father's Name Thomas Lockett Fox

Ok im confused i have here from family notes that james born 1842 married martha hendry on 25.12.1862 i have the town wattan (on) but unsure if this is marriage or birth

Ah so the marriage with Mary ann hendry is actually the parents of james jnr however the wedding is after james's birth?

id of really thought the marriage of james seniors parents jame and mary would of been before his birth to be honest i have mary as being from devonshire im very confused :-S

If you note the baptism of James William- it gives mother as Susannah Ann- so, it is either the wrong James Young, or James senior married again (after the birth of James)?

yer im really unsure :-S :-S

County Norfolk
Place Watton
Church name St Mary
Register type
Register entry number 38
Marriage date 27 Jan 1844
Groom forename James
Groom surname YOUNGS
Groom age full age
Groom condition Widower
Groom abode Watton
Groom parish Watton
Groom occupation Shoemaker
Bride forename Mary Ann
Bride surname HENDRY
Bride age full age
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Watton
Bride parish Watton
Groom father forename James
Groom father surname YOUNGS
Groom father occupation Shoemaker
Bride father forename Robert
Bride father surname HENDRY
Bride father occupation Carpenter
Witness1 forename Robert
Witness1 surname HENDRY
Witness2 forename Charlotte
Witness2 surname HENDRY
Notes Charlotte Hendry signed her mark.


Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Watton
Church name St Mary
Register type
Register entry number 257
Baptism date 27 Dec 1822
Person forename Mary Anne
Person sex F
Person abode Watton
Father forename Robert
Father surname HENDRY
Father occupation Carpenter
Mother forename Anne


Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Watton
Church name St Mary
Register type TR
Register entry number 715
Baptism date 26 May 1839
Person forename Martha
Person sex ?
Father forename Robert
Father surname HENDRY
Father occupation Carpenter
Mother forename Charlotte


(from below, if relating)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)


County Norfolk
Place Watton
Church name St Mary
Register type
Register entry number 11
Marriage date 4 Feb 1839
Groom forename Robert
Groom surname HENDRY
Groom age full age
Groom condition Widower
Groom abode Watton
Groom parish Watton
Groom occupation Carpenter
Bride forename Charlotte
Bride surname EAGGLING
Bride age minor
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode Watton
Bride parish Watton
Groom father forename William
Groom father surname HENDRY
Groom father occupation Farmer
Witness1 forename Thomas
Witness1 surname TENANT
Witness2 forename Mary
Witness2 surname HENDRY
Notes Bride signed her mark.


1841 (Find My Past)
Robert Hendry Male 41 1800 Norfolk, England (Carpenter)
Charlotte Hendry Female 24 1817 Norfolk, England
Wm Hendry Male 17 1824 Norfolk, England
Tho Hendry Male 15 1826 Norfolk, England
Martha Hendry Female 2 1839 Norfolk, England
Robt Hendry Female 0 1841 Norfolk, England
Francis Eagles Male 57 1784 Norfolk, England
Street Back Street
Parish or township Watton
County Norfolk
Registration district Wayland
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 785
Book number 29
Folio number 15
Page number 22


County Norfolk
Place Watton
Church name St Mary
Register type
Register entry number 75
Marriage date 11 Mar 1822
Groom forename Robert
Groom surname HENDRY
Groom condition Single Man
Groom parish Watton
Bride forename Anne
Bride surname SKIPPER
Bride condition Single Woman
Bride parish Watton
Witness1 forename John
Witness1 surname ROLFE
Witness2 forename Ann
Witness2 surname ROLFE


Burial
County Norfolk
Place Watton
Church name St Mary
Register type
Register entry number 214
Burial date 17 Jun 1827
Person age 27
Burial person forename Anne
Burial person surname HENDRY
Burial person abode Watton


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tinstaafl/Church_Pages/watton2.htm

(Baptisms also on above)