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Proctor baptisms please

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cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 17:15

I need help with any more births for this couple please
Name:
Mary Anns Proctor

Baptism Date:
5 Sep 1843

Parish:
Ancoats, St Andrew

Parish as it Appears:
Manchester

Father's name:
John Proctor

Mother's name:
Ellen Proctor

Reference Number:
GB127.M45/1/10/1

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Oct 2015 17:59

Is this their marriage?

Marriages Dec 1840 (>99%)
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CROOK Ellen Manchester 20 508
PROCTOR John Manchester 20 508

And if so, is this Mary Ann with maternal grandparents?

Mary Ann Proctor

in the 1851 England Census

Name: Mary Ann Proctor
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Pleasington
Ecclesiastical parish: Emanuel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Blackburn
Sub-registration district: Darwen
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 2261
Folio: 597
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Crook 55
Ellen Crook 42
John Crook 32
Ann Crook 23
Ralph Crook 18
Mary Ann Proctor 9

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Oct 2015 18:02

Have you found the family in 1841 or 1851. Do you know Ellen's maiden name or when they married?

There are a number of baptisms on Family Search with parents John and Ellen, only the one you have above in Ancoats and although they all could be the same John and Ellen ............

There are at least 2 marriages in Manchester 13.12.1835 - John and Ellen Chew and 27.12.1840 John and Ellen Crook both at Manchester Cathedral. Even more choices if you go outside of Manchester itself.

Gee

Gee Report 23 Oct 2015 18:09

Margee

The 1840 marriage you posted seems to be correct. John's occupation is 'mechanic', the same as Mary A baptism

Added



Name:John Proctor

Marriage Date:27 Dec 1840

Parish:Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George

Father's name:James Proctor <<Mechanic

Spouse's Name:Ellen Crook

Spouse's Father's Name:James Crook <<<Weaver

Archive Roll:706

Researching:

cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 18:20

thank you ...
Ellen Crook was baptised 29th October 1820.Her parents were james crook and Ellen.She married JOHN PROCTOR 1840 in Ancoates Manchester...I am struggling with births for Ellen & john

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 18:21

That's the one Gins

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

Gee

Gee Report 23 Oct 2015 19:01

Cane

Have you found them on a census after Mary was born?

Not seeing any of them

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cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 19:37

No not at all Gins

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

malyon

malyon Report 23 Oct 2015 20:07


Ellen Crook
England Births and Christenings
Name Ellen Crook
Gender Female
Christening Date 29 Oct 1820
Christening Place Collegiate Church, Manchester, Lancaster, England
Father's Name James Crook
Mother's Name Ellen Crook

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 21:05

Cane

In case you didn't know, this is an excellent site for Lancashire baptisms, marriages and burials .............

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

most of the father's occupations are given, so it is quite easy to separate the different families.

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 21:09

Thank you Sylvia x

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 21:30

suspicions

John died and Ellen remarried

OR both John and Ellen died

Have you looked for deaths and/or burials?


I have to go now, but will look back later

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 21:50

Looks like she went to prison omg
Name:
Ellen Proctor

Age:
27

Estimated birth year:
abt 1821

Date of Trial:
3 Jan 1848

Trial Year:
1848

Location of Trial:
Lancashire, England

Sentence:
Imprisonment

Crime:
See Image

Date of Execution or Release:
See Image
:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 21:56

And this one same as
Name:
John Proctor

Age:
25

Estimated birth year:
abt 1822

Date of Trial:
1 Mar 1847

Trial Year:
1847

Location of Trial:
Lancashire, England

Sentence:
Imprisonment

Crime:
See Image

Date of Execution or Release:
See Image
:-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:18

Hers is very faint and hard to read, ............

It looks like she was charged with Larceny at Manchester and Salford Assizes

Sentence:- 3 months

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:22

John

not known if he was Married or Single
Age 25
County Sessions, Salford
Charge:- Larceny by Servant
Sentence:- 2 Months

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:31

There is also this ...........


Lancashire, England, Quarter Session Records and Petitions, 1648-1908

Name: John Proctor
Event Date: 1847
Event Place: Lancashire, England
Quarter Session Place: Lancashire
Record Type: Order Books
Year Range: 1847
Reference Information: RB.54


It's the order sending him to prison for 2 Calendar Months

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:33

However ............


you do have to remember that John Proctor is not exactly a rare name in Lancashire :-)

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Oct 2015 22:37

Lancashire, England, Quarter Session Records and Petitions, 1648-1908

Name: Ellen Proctor
Event Date: 12 Apr 1842
Event Place: Lancashire, England
Residence Place: Chorley
Quarter Session Place: Lancashire
Record Type: Order Books
Year Range: 1842
Reference Information: Vol. 92


This is NOT your Ellen ............... this is one of the 6 children of Thomas and Elizabeth Proctor ordered removed from the township of Chorley

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

cane

cane Report 23 Oct 2015 22:37

Found this, but don't know what to think,why would she be in yorkshire
Name:
Mary Anna Proctor

Death Age:
6

Birth Year:
abt 1841

Burial Date:
27 Apr 1847

Parish:
Woodhouse, St Mark, Yorkshire, England

Search Photos:
Search for 'Woodhouse, St Mark' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection

Researching:
Barber,henshall, Hackett, smith,Walsh.....Salford,Manchester

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