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AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Apr 2017 08:53

There is also this baptism closeby- the transcription gives father's occupation as farmer though:

irst name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Sturgeon
Birth year 1817
Baptism year 1817
Baptism date 30 Nov 1817
Parish Rushbrooke, St Nicholas
Place Rushbrooke
Relationship Daughter
Father's first name(s) William
Mothers first name(s) Hannah
Father's occupation Shepherd
Residence Rushbrooke
County Suffolk

None of the children are named for Hannah- so I don't think this one is likely.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Apr 2017 08:46

Mistranscribed on FMP-

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hogarth Lane, Harrow, Hendon, Middlesex, England

Alfred Dison Head Married Male 46 1815 Carrier Kent, England
Elizabeth Dison Wife Married Female 44 1817 - Rougham, Suffolk, England
Matilda Dison Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Assistant... Harrow, Middlesex,
Walter Dison Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Assistant In Carrier Harrow, Middlesex
Alfred Dison Son - Male 16 1845 - Harrow, Middlesex, England
James Dison Son - Male 14 1847 - Harrow, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Dison Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Harrow, Middlesex,
Eliza Dison Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Harrow, Middlesex, England
Charles Dison Son - Male 6 1855 - Harrow, Middlesex, England
-----------------------------------------

Rougham is very close to Hessett

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Apr 2017 08:07

Just for reference as you don't give her year of birth or death:

Death:
DIXON, ELIZABETH age 43
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 58

Have you considered that she may have lied about the name of her father?

Baptism:
Name(s) Elizabeth Sturgeon
Birth year 1818
Baptism year 1818
Baptism date 05 Apr 1818
Parish Hessett, St Ethelbert
Place Hessett
Relationship Daughter
Father's first name(s) -
Mothers first name(s) Mary
Residence Hessett
Notes bb; recd 6 Jan 1822
County Suffolk

First daughter was Matilda Mary- perhaps named after grandmother?


Christopher

Christopher Report 14 Apr 2017 02:19

Hi - I have long been trying to find a family for my great great great grandmother Elizabeth Sturgeon. She married Alfred John Dixon 13 Feb 1840 at St George Hanover Square, She states that her father was William Sturgeon, a tailor. The 1851 census gives her birth place as Bury, Suffolk, which I am assuming is Bury St Edmunds. They had 9 children. She died aged 43 in Harrow on May 1. The wedding certificate lists her father as William Sturgeon, tailor

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Sep 2015 17:23

MC - your post at 1542 today - Kathleen was the daughter born 1912 to the Palmers - I had left David to find that one himself having given the link to freebmd (my post at 1714 on 27th Sep). Along with Ivy who is recorded on the 1911 census they would be the 2 children David mentioned in his opening post. George Edward Seeley on the 1911 was Annie's child born before she married Robert Palmer.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Sep 2015 16:12

(if her below)

Suffolk Baptism Index (part 3) Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) ANNIE
Last name SEELEY
Baptism year 1886
Baptism day 27
Baptism month Sep
Parish BURY ST EDMUNDS, ST JOHN
Mother's name Lydia Elizabeth
County Suffolk
Notes Born 17 Mar. Private Baptism. 9 St Martins Pl. Sw
Entry number 35935
Record set Suffolk Baptism Index (part 3)


First name(s) EMILY SARAH
Last name SEELEY
Baptism year 1883
Baptism day 29
Baptism month May
Parish BURY ST EDMUNDS, ST JOHN
Mother's name Lydia Elizabeth
County Suffolk
Notes Born 23 Nov 1881. Il. 9 St Martins Pl


Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
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SEELEY Annie Bury St. E 4a 708


1891 (Find My Past)
Lydia E Seeley Head Single Female 33 1858 Tailoress Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Henry J Seeley Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Frank W Seeley Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Emily S Seeley Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Alfred Seeley Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Annie Seeley Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Kate E Seeley Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Street St Martins Place
County Suffolk
Registration district Bury St Edmunds
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 1451
Folio 133
Page 25


Births Dec 1857 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
Seeley Lydia Elizabeth Bury St. E. 4a 411


Deaths Mar 1949 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------
Seeley Lydia E 91 Bury St.E. 4b 1107

Chris :)

17 March 1894 - Bury Free Press - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

Bury Petty Sessions
Lydia Elizabeth Seeley, for the non attendance of her daughters Emily and Annie. Attendance order made.


http://eastanglianancestors.co.uk/fam10774.html

(on above from google)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 29 Sep 2015 15:42

Earlier, greyghost posted the entry for Soldiers Died Great War.

Here's the UK Register of Soldiers Effects for the same man:

Name: Robert Henry Palmer
Gender: Male
Death Date: 12 Oct 1917
Death Place: Belgium
Rank: Private
Regiment: Suffolk Regiment
Regimental Number: 5446

His widow's name was Annie. A total of £18 10s was paid to her for her own and Kathleen's benefit (Who was Kathleen? a daughter?)

There was also £5 10s 6d to a Lionel Fulcher.

David

David Report 29 Sep 2015 14:41

thank you everyone for the info it was great ,
was there any other info on annie seeley if poss . I hope to go to local reg office to get copy of birth cert if poss
;-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Sep 2015 21:46

Births Jun 1891 (>99%)
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Sturgeon William Newmarket 3b 555

(would fit with Dalham on 1911)

Chris :)

1891 (Find My Past)
Frederick G Sturgeon Head Married Male 34 1857 Gardener Hartest, Suffolk, England
Ellen Sturgeon Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Soham, Cambridgeshire, England
Fred Sturgeon Son - Male 3 1888 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
Rosa Sturgeon Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Hartest, Suffolk, England
Street The Street
Parish Dalham
County Cambridgeshire
Registration district Newmarket
Archive reference RG12
Piece number 1292
Folio 148
Page 6


1911 (Find My Past)
Frederick Sturgeon Head Married Male Farm Labourer 53 1858 Suffolk Hartest
Ellen Sturgeon Wife Married Female - 48 1863 Suffolk Soham
Albert Sturgeon Son - Male Farmer's Lad 15 1896 Suffolk Hartest
Lily Sturgeon Daughter - Female - 8 1903 Suffolk Hartest
Harry Sturgeon Son - Male - 6 1905 Suffolk Hartest
Address The Green Hartest Bury St Edmunds
Parish Hartest
County Suffolk
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Sudbury
Census reference RG14 PN10561 RG78 PN566 RD205 SD4 ED6 SN6
(says Married 25 yrs, 8 children born, 7 living, 1 died)

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Sep 2015 18:32

??
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) RONALD WILLIAM
Last name STURGEON
Gender Male
Birth day 9
Birth month 7
Birth year 1923
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 2002
District BURY ST. EDMUNDS
District number 7421B
Register number B29D
Entry number 235
Date of registration mm/yy 1002
County Suffolk
_____________________________

?? Marriage 1948 Bury St Ed's if only registered as Ronald - find on freebmd

Possible 5 children - freebmd

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Sep 2015 18:25

Possibles

From freebmd
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1942 (>99%)
Sturgeon Edith L Gladwell Bury St.E 4a 2877
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From Find My Past as freebmd doesn't go far enough forward

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) EDITH LILIAN
Last name GLADWELL
Gender Female
Birth day 15
Birth month 4
Birth year 1921
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1997
District SHEFFIELD
District number 0481H
Register number H65A
Entry number 076
Date of registration mm/yy 0397
County Yorkshire
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Looks like 1 child born to marriage Bury St Edmonds - find on freebmd

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Sep 2015 18:16

Not seeing a marriage for George Edward Seeley

Surname First name(s) DoB District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1972 (>99%)
SEELEY GEORGE EDWARD 18NO1907 BURY ST.E 4B 2983

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Sep 2015 18:03

1911 census- this is the address he gives on the military file:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Spring Road St Osyth Essex, St Osyth, Essex, England

Frederick Rampling Head Married Male Caretaker 35 1876 St Osyth Essex
Kate Eliza Rampling Wife Married Female - 40 1871 Essex St Osyth
Norah Kathleen Rampling Daughter Single Female - 9 1902 Essex St Osyth
William Sturgeon Boarder Single Male Blacksmith 21 1890 Dalham Suffolk
George Kildy Boarder Married Male Groom Domestic 33 1878 Burgh Suffolk

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Sep 2015 18:02

Possible for parent's marriage:-

First name(s) FREDERICK GEORGE
Last name STURGEON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1884
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ FREDERICK GEORGE STURGEON married
ELLEN WARNER
District SUDBURY
District number -
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 1001

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Sep 2015 17:59

EDIT - The birth Chris has found on page 2 of this thread is a more likely one than the one below.

Possible birth:-

First name(s) WILLIAM AVEY
Last name STURGEON
Birth year 1892
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District THINGOE
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 744

Kath. x

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Sep 2015 17:54

Father Frederick:

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription
First name(s) William
Last name Sturgeon
Service number TS/9316
Regiment Royal Army Service Corps
Unit / Battalion 122nd Company, 28th Divisional Training Company
Event year 1915
Age 24
Birth year 1892
Birth county Suffolk
Birth country England
Residence county Essex
Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920

He was a shoeing smith living in Essex, but his father (next of kin) is given as Frederick- Hartest Green, Bury St. Edmunds.

Fits with Greyghost's 1901 census

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Sep 2015 17:53

EDIT - IGNORE THIS - see Greyghost's post above.

If the above Arthur William WAS your William then this is him in the 1901 census:-

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cottage Near the Avove, Little Walnetham, Little Whelnetham, Thingoe, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Alfred Sturgeon Head Married Male 40 1861 Horse Man On Farm Suffolk, England
Anna Sturgeon Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Suffolk, England
Lillian M Sturgeon Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Teacher In School Suffolk, England
Percy G Sturgeon Son Single Male 12 1889 - Suffolk, England
Arthur W Sturgeon Son Single Male 10 1891 - Suffolk, England

Kath. x

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Sep 2015 17:52

??
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Green, Hartest, Sudbury, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Fred G Sturgeon Head Married Male 44 1857 Painter Hartest, Suffolk, England
Ellen Sturgeon Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Fred A Sturgeon Son - Male 12 1889 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
William Sturgeon Son - Male 9 1892 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
Albert Sturgeon Son - Male 5 1896 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
Edith Sturgeon Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Hartest, Suffolk, England

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Sep 2015 17:50

EDIT - IGNORE THIS. Greyghost's find below looks better.

I wonder if he used his middle name? There is this possible birth:-

First name(s) ARTHUR WILLIAM
Last name STURGEON
Birth year 1891
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District THINGOE
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 781

Kath. x

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 27 Sep 2015 17:40

This might help:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=146291398&PIpi=121078614

It's their burial stone:

In Memory of William Sturgeon died 7th May 1974 aged 82 years.
Also his Wife Annie died 9th January 1961 aged 74 years
Greatly loved, sadly missed.
---------------------------------------------

So possibly this death?

Name: William Sturgeon
Birth Date: 17 May 1891
Date of Registration: Jun 1974
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Bury St edmunds
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 10 Page: 2116