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AustinQ
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14 Apr 2017 08:53 |
There is also this baptism closeby- the transcription gives father's occupation as farmer though:
irst name(s) Elizabeth Last name Sturgeon Birth year 1817 Baptism year 1817 Baptism date 30 Nov 1817 Parish Rushbrooke, St Nicholas Place Rushbrooke Relationship Daughter Father's first name(s) William Mothers first name(s) Hannah Father's occupation Shepherd Residence Rushbrooke County Suffolk
None of the children are named for Hannah- so I don't think this one is likely.
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14 Apr 2017 08:46 |
Mistranscribed on FMP-
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hogarth Lane, Harrow, Hendon, Middlesex, England
Alfred Dison Head Married Male 46 1815 Carrier Kent, England Elizabeth Dison Wife Married Female 44 1817 - Rougham, Suffolk, England Matilda Dison Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Assistant... Harrow, Middlesex, Walter Dison Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Assistant In Carrier Harrow, Middlesex Alfred Dison Son - Male 16 1845 - Harrow, Middlesex, England James Dison Son - Male 14 1847 - Harrow, Middlesex, England Elizabeth Dison Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Harrow, Middlesex, Eliza Dison Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Harrow, Middlesex, England Charles Dison Son - Male 6 1855 - Harrow, Middlesex, England -----------------------------------------
Rougham is very close to Hessett
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14 Apr 2017 08:07 |
Just for reference as you don't give her year of birth or death:
Death: DIXON, ELIZABETH age 43 GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 58
Have you considered that she may have lied about the name of her father?
Baptism: Name(s) Elizabeth Sturgeon Birth year 1818 Baptism year 1818 Baptism date 05 Apr 1818 Parish Hessett, St Ethelbert Place Hessett Relationship Daughter Father's first name(s) - Mothers first name(s) Mary Residence Hessett Notes bb; recd 6 Jan 1822 County Suffolk
First daughter was Matilda Mary- perhaps named after grandmother?
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Christopher
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14 Apr 2017 02:19 |
Hi - I have long been trying to find a family for my great great great grandmother Elizabeth Sturgeon. She married Alfred John Dixon 13 Feb 1840 at St George Hanover Square, She states that her father was William Sturgeon, a tailor. The 1851 census gives her birth place as Bury, Suffolk, which I am assuming is Bury St Edmunds. They had 9 children. She died aged 43 in Harrow on May 1. The wedding certificate lists her father as William Sturgeon, tailor
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29 Sep 2015 17:23 |
MC - your post at 1542 today - Kathleen was the daughter born 1912 to the Palmers - I had left David to find that one himself having given the link to freebmd (my post at 1714 on 27th Sep). Along with Ivy who is recorded on the 1911 census they would be the 2 children David mentioned in his opening post. George Edward Seeley on the 1911 was Annie's child born before she married Robert Palmer.
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Chris Ho :)
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29 Sep 2015 16:12 |
(if her below)
Suffolk Baptism Index (part 3) Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) ANNIE Last name SEELEY Baptism year 1886 Baptism day 27 Baptism month Sep Parish BURY ST EDMUNDS, ST JOHN Mother's name Lydia Elizabeth County Suffolk Notes Born 17 Mar. Private Baptism. 9 St Martins Pl. Sw Entry number 35935 Record set Suffolk Baptism Index (part 3)
First name(s) EMILY SARAH Last name SEELEY Baptism year 1883 Baptism day 29 Baptism month May Parish BURY ST EDMUNDS, ST JOHN Mother's name Lydia Elizabeth County Suffolk Notes Born 23 Nov 1881. Il. 9 St Martins Pl
Births Jun 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- SEELEY Annie Bury St. E 4a 708
1891 (Find My Past) Lydia E Seeley Head Single Female 33 1858 Tailoress Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Henry J Seeley Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Frank W Seeley Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Emily S Seeley Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Alfred Seeley Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Annie Seeley Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Kate E Seeley Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Street St Martins Place County Suffolk Registration district Bury St Edmunds Archive reference RG12 Piece number 1451 Folio 133 Page 25
Births Dec 1857 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ Seeley Lydia Elizabeth Bury St. E. 4a 411
Deaths Mar 1949 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Seeley Lydia E 91 Bury St.E. 4b 1107
Chris :)
17 March 1894 - Bury Free Press - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Bury Petty Sessions Lydia Elizabeth Seeley, for the non attendance of her daughters Emily and Annie. Attendance order made.
http://eastanglianancestors.co.uk/fam10774.html
(on above from google)
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MarieCeleste
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29 Sep 2015 15:42 |
Earlier, greyghost posted the entry for Soldiers Died Great War.
Here's the UK Register of Soldiers Effects for the same man:
Name: Robert Henry Palmer Gender: Male Death Date: 12 Oct 1917 Death Place: Belgium Rank: Private Regiment: Suffolk Regiment Regimental Number: 5446
His widow's name was Annie. A total of £18 10s was paid to her for her own and Kathleen's benefit (Who was Kathleen? a daughter?)
There was also £5 10s 6d to a Lionel Fulcher.
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David
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29 Sep 2015 14:41 |
thank you everyone for the info it was great , was there any other info on annie seeley if poss . I hope to go to local reg office to get copy of birth cert if poss ;-)
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Sep 2015 21:46 |
Births Jun 1891 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Sturgeon William Newmarket 3b 555
(would fit with Dalham on 1911)
Chris :)
1891 (Find My Past) Frederick G Sturgeon Head Married Male 34 1857 Gardener Hartest, Suffolk, England Ellen Sturgeon Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Soham, Cambridgeshire, England Fred Sturgeon Son - Male 3 1888 - Hartest, Suffolk, England Rosa Sturgeon Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Hartest, Suffolk, England Street The Street Parish Dalham County Cambridgeshire Registration district Newmarket Archive reference RG12 Piece number 1292 Folio 148 Page 6
1911 (Find My Past) Frederick Sturgeon Head Married Male Farm Labourer 53 1858 Suffolk Hartest Ellen Sturgeon Wife Married Female - 48 1863 Suffolk Soham Albert Sturgeon Son - Male Farmer's Lad 15 1896 Suffolk Hartest Lily Sturgeon Daughter - Female - 8 1903 Suffolk Hartest Harry Sturgeon Son - Male - 6 1905 Suffolk Hartest Address The Green Hartest Bury St Edmunds Parish Hartest County Suffolk Archive reference RG14 Registration district Sudbury Census reference RG14 PN10561 RG78 PN566 RD205 SD4 ED6 SN6 (says Married 25 yrs, 8 children born, 7 living, 1 died)
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greyghost
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27 Sep 2015 18:32 |
?? England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) RONALD WILLIAM Last name STURGEON Gender Male Birth day 9 Birth month 7 Birth year 1923 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 2002 District BURY ST. EDMUNDS District number 7421B Register number B29D Entry number 235 Date of registration mm/yy 1002 County Suffolk _____________________________
?? Marriage 1948 Bury St Ed's if only registered as Ronald - find on freebmd
Possible 5 children - freebmd
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greyghost
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27 Sep 2015 18:25 |
Possibles
From freebmd Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1942 (>99%) Sturgeon Edith L Gladwell Bury St.E 4a 2877 ------------------------------------------------------------ From Find My Past as freebmd doesn't go far enough forward
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) EDITH LILIAN Last name GLADWELL Gender Female Birth day 15 Birth month 4 Birth year 1921 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 1997 District SHEFFIELD District number 0481H Register number H65A Entry number 076 Date of registration mm/yy 0397 County Yorkshire -------------------------------------------- Looks like 1 child born to marriage Bury St Edmonds - find on freebmd
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greyghost
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27 Sep 2015 18:16 |
Not seeing a marriage for George Edward Seeley
Surname First name(s) DoB District Vol Page Deaths Dec 1972 (>99%) SEELEY GEORGE EDWARD 18NO1907 BURY ST.E 4B 2983
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AustinQ
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27 Sep 2015 18:03 |
1911 census- this is the address he gives on the military file:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Spring Road St Osyth Essex, St Osyth, Essex, England
Frederick Rampling Head Married Male Caretaker 35 1876 St Osyth Essex Kate Eliza Rampling Wife Married Female - 40 1871 Essex St Osyth Norah Kathleen Rampling Daughter Single Female - 9 1902 Essex St Osyth William Sturgeon Boarder Single Male Blacksmith 21 1890 Dalham Suffolk George Kildy Boarder Married Male Groom Domestic 33 1878 Burgh Suffolk
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KathleenBell
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27 Sep 2015 18:02 |
Possible for parent's marriage:-
First name(s) FREDERICK GEORGE Last name STURGEON Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1884 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ FREDERICK GEORGE STURGEON married ELLEN WARNER District SUDBURY District number - County Suffolk Country England Volume 4A Page 1001
Kath. x
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KathleenBell
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27 Sep 2015 17:59 |
EDIT - The birth Chris has found on page 2 of this thread is a more likely one than the one below.
Possible birth:-
First name(s) WILLIAM AVEY Last name STURGEON Birth year 1892 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name - District THINGOE County Suffolk Country England Volume 4A Page 744
Kath. x
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AustinQ
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27 Sep 2015 17:54 |
Father Frederick:
British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription First name(s) William Last name Sturgeon Service number TS/9316 Regiment Royal Army Service Corps Unit / Battalion 122nd Company, 28th Divisional Training Company Event year 1915 Age 24 Birth year 1892 Birth county Suffolk Birth country England Residence county Essex Series WO 363 Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
He was a shoeing smith living in Essex, but his father (next of kin) is given as Frederick- Hartest Green, Bury St. Edmunds.
Fits with Greyghost's 1901 census
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KathleenBell
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27 Sep 2015 17:53 |
EDIT - IGNORE THIS - see Greyghost's post above.
If the above Arthur William WAS your William then this is him in the 1901 census:-
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cottage Near the Avove, Little Walnetham, Little Whelnetham, Thingoe, Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alfred Sturgeon Head Married Male 40 1861 Horse Man On Farm Suffolk, England Anna Sturgeon Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Suffolk, England Lillian M Sturgeon Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Teacher In School Suffolk, England Percy G Sturgeon Son Single Male 12 1889 - Suffolk, England Arthur W Sturgeon Son Single Male 10 1891 - Suffolk, England
Kath. x
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27 Sep 2015 17:52 |
?? 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription The Green, Hartest, Sudbury, Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Fred G Sturgeon Head Married Male 44 1857 Painter Hartest, Suffolk, England Ellen Sturgeon Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England Fred A Sturgeon Son - Male 12 1889 - Hartest, Suffolk, England William Sturgeon Son - Male 9 1892 - Hartest, Suffolk, England Albert Sturgeon Son - Male 5 1896 - Hartest, Suffolk, England Edith Sturgeon Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Hartest, Suffolk, England
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KathleenBell
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27 Sep 2015 17:50 |
EDIT - IGNORE THIS. Greyghost's find below looks better.
I wonder if he used his middle name? There is this possible birth:-
First name(s) ARTHUR WILLIAM Last name STURGEON Birth year 1891 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District THINGOE County Suffolk Country England Volume 4A Page 781
Kath. x
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AustinQ
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27 Sep 2015 17:40 |
This might help:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=146291398&PIpi=121078614
It's their burial stone:
In Memory of William Sturgeon died 7th May 1974 aged 82 years. Also his Wife Annie died 9th January 1961 aged 74 years Greatly loved, sadly missed. ---------------------------------------------
So possibly this death?
Name: William Sturgeon Birth Date: 17 May 1891 Date of Registration: Jun 1974 Age at Death: 83 Registration district: Bury St edmunds Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 10 Page: 2116
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