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26 Sep 2015 15:30 |
Hello, I am trying to research the family of Albert Edward Francis (Born Newport Monmouth, Wales c1842, was also a Vicar at Barton on Irwell,Lancs) and his sister Georgianna Powell Francis Born Jan 1844. I believe their parents were Reverend James Francis who died at Newport in May1843 and Mary Francis. I believe Rev James Francis had six or seven children but I do not know the others. Albert Edward married Emily Beatrice Cannon. I would appreciate any information at all. Many thanks, Jenny
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26 Sep 2015 15:34 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 80, Friar Gate, St Werburghs, Derby, Derbyshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Mary Francis Head Widow Female 38 1813 Clergymans Widow In Alms House Cardiganshire, Wales Transcription Albert Edwd Francis Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Transcription Georgina Powell Francis Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 Scholar Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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26 Sep 2015 15:42 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription King Street, St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place James Francis Male 30 1811 - Transcription Mary Francis Female 25 1816 - Transcription William Francis Male 7 1834 - Transcription James Francis Male 6 1835 Monmouthshire, Wales Transcription John Francis Male 4 1837 Monmouthshire, Wales Transcription Alfred Francis Male 2 1839 Monmouthshire, Wales Transcription Elizabeth Francis Female 1 1840 Monmouthshire, Wales Transcription Edward Lamley Male 14 1827 Monmouthshire, Wales Transcription Robert Howell Male 11 1830 - Transcription Margarett Simmons Female 20 1821 - Transcription Elizabeth Matthews Female 20 1821 Monmouthshire, Wales
james is a clergyman
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26 Sep 2015 16:05 |
Marriage: 15 Jun 1881 St Anne, Lancaster, Lancashire, England John Cannon, Gentleman - 63, Widower, Ealing Middlesex Georgiana Powell Francis - 37, Spinster, St. Anne's Vicarage Groom's Father: William Cannon, Cotton Spinner Bride's Father: James Francis, Clergyman Witness: Alfred Ollivant Francis; Edith Margaret Cannon; Edward Cannon Married by Licence by: James Francis, M. A. Vicar Register: Marriages 1843 - 1883, Page 236, Entry 472 Source: LDS Film 1526409
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26 Sep 2015 16:31 |
these may be of interest
Reverend James Francis Vicar of St Paul's Church Newport ... www.newportpast.com/gallery/photos/php/photo_page.php?... Text and image from "St. Paul's Parish Newport" by Rev. T. Parry Pryce, 1936. On the 30th November, 1939, the Reverend James Francis formerly Curate of the ...
Will of Reverend James Francis, Incumbent, Clerk of Saint ... discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D117814 Details of PROB 11/1984/26. Reference: PROB 11/1984/26. Description: Will of Reverend James Francis, Incumbent, Clerk of Saint Pauls Newport , ...
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26 Sep 2015 16:39 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Windsor Road East, Twyford Abbey Ealing, Brentford, Middlesex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Georgiana P Cannon Head Widow Female 47 1844 Own Means Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Transcription Edith Margret Cannon Daughter Single Female 34 1857 Own Means Lancashire, England Transcription Laura C Cannon Daughter Single Female 27 1864 Own Means Lancashire, England Transcription Helena Mabel Cannon Daughter Single Female 25 1866 - Lancashire, England Transcription Sarah J Home Servant Single Female 26 1865 - Clanfield, Oxfordshire, England Transcription Laura Carder Servant Single Female 24 1867 - Staffordshire, England
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26 Sep 2015 16:41 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7, Windsor Road, Ealing with Old Brentford, Brentford, Middlesex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Cannon Head Widower Male 62 1819 J P No Profession (Other Legal Offical) Bolton, Lancashire, England Transcription Edith Margaret Cannon Daughter Single Female 24 1857 Artist Lancashire, England Transcription Florence Eleanor Cannon Daughter Single Female 20 1861 Engraver Lancashire, England Transcription Laura Charlotte Cannon Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Scholar Lancashire, England Transcription Mabel Helena Cannon Daughter Single Female 15 1866 Scholar Lancashire, England Transcription Eliza Burchett Servant Single Female 22 1859 Cook (D S) Essex, England Transcription Emma Ann Lear Servant Single Female 21 1860 Housemaid (D S) Devon, England
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26 Sep 2015 23:12 |
Gosh, thanks so much for this information. My biggest mystery now is where the other children of James and Mary, now widowed, were in 1851. Alfred and Elizabeth were only about 11 and 12 then, but in those days they could have been working. Onwards and upwards! Thanks again.
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27 Sep 2015 00:01 |
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Wales, Select Births and Baptisms, 1541-1907
Name: William Lewis Francis Gender: Male Baptism Date: 28 Jan 1834 Baptism Place: Llandygwydd,Cardigan,Wales Father: James Francis Mother: Mary FHL Film Number: 105159
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27 Sep 2015 07:43 |
The link Maddie posted has an extensive story with the photograph...of which this is part
It is recorded that on Wednesday, May 17th, 1843, he got wet in returning from Whitson Church, where his clerical duties called him. He caught cold at St. Woolos Church on the following day attending the Visitation. On returning home he complained of illness. He was seized with a chill, followed by fever together with other alarming symptoms, and died on Wednesday morning, May 24th, leaving a devoted wife and six children.
So there are five children on the 1841 census and then there is Georgina and Alfred which suggests one had died?
Jude
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27 Sep 2015 07:47 |
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3393943/3393946/34/
(makes mention of wife and six children on above)
http://newspapers.library.wales/
(probably more relating also)
Chris :)
Cambridge University Alumni, 1261-1900 (Ancestry)
Name: Albert Edward. Francis College: JESUS Entered: Michs. 1861 More Information: Adm. pens. (age 19) at JESUS, Sept. 1, 1861. S. of the Rev. James Francis, deceased. B. at Newport, Mon. School, Oundle. Matric. Michs. 1861; B.A. 1865; M.A. 1871. Ord. deacon (Rochester) 1866; priest, 1867; C. of Shenfield, Essex, 1866-8. C. of Eccles, Lancs., 1868-73. P.C. of Barton-upon-Irwell, 1873-98-. Disappears from Crockford, 1899.
1861 (Find My Past) Albert E Francis Pupil Unmarried Male 19 1842 Scholar Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales House name Church Yard Grammer School Street Church Lane Parish Oundle County Northamptonshire Registration district Oundle Enumeration district 11 Archive reference RG09 Piece number 961 Folio number 136 Page number 2
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27 Sep 2015 07:52 |
Yes Chris the first article is the one transcribed with the photograph..
Saint Paul's is still there :-)
Only possible relevant death I have found is in 1842 for Eliza
Jude
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27 Sep 2015 07:57 |
Doesn't help finding the others but Georgina was in an orphanage by 1861
Name: Georgina Francis Age: 17 Estimated birth year: 1844 Relation: Ward Gender: Female Where born: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: Munster Square County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Regents Park ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 131 Piece: 96 Folio: 19 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Matilda Whitfield 52 Frances A Duma 20 Aurore E Brayire 36 Christiana Bridge 20 Augusta E Whitfield 19 Emily J Garney 13 Julia A Johnson 19 Anne T Mitchell 19 Frances C Fenwick 17 Margaret Holton 17 Elizabeth Syster 19 Mary Jones 17 Georgina Myers 17 Charlotte L Nelson 17 Celeste Hall 18 Rose E Faulkner 17 Helena C Harger 18 Sarah Smith 17 Elizabeth M Winckler 13 Sarah F Scott 19 Alicia M Rose 18 Ellen E Dodd 17 Theresa Williams 16 Caroline M Groswaite 19 Mary Ann Swann 17 Mary Ann Sterling 16 Alicia M Lawrence 17 Maud Smith 13 Georgina Francis 17 Mary J Rose 16 Ann Russell 57 Jane Richards 28 Emma Richards 20 Elizabeth S Chandler 19 Laura A Millin 18
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27 Sep 2015 08:00 |
(apologies Jude, just deleted link, as I see Maddie has added earlier!)
Always worth a google search on names!...
Chris :)
(if below relate relate, from below free link, images also on Find My Past)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
County Cardiganshire Place Lampeter Church name Parish Church Marriage date 19 Feb 1833 Groom forename James Groom surname FRANCIS Groom abode Llandygwydd Bride forename Mary Bride surname PRICE
Baptism County Cardiganshire Place Llandygwydd Church name Parish Church Baptism date 28 Jan 1834 Person forename William Lewis Person sex M Father forename James Father surname FRANCIS Mother forename Mary
Baptism County Monmouthshire Place Newport Church name Parish Church-St Woolos Register type Baptism date 24 Feb 1837 Person forename John Person sex M Father forename James Father surname FRANCIS Mother forename Mary
edits
(checked Baptism image Find My Past, William 1834, Father, Clergyman)
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3424776/3424779/21/
(and probably where 'Ollivant' came from)
http://tinyurl.com/nwnecyx
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27 Sep 2015 08:12 |
Chris, Maddie didn't quite post the link...you have to search for him when you get there. It's a great site!
James was in Devon in 1871 (chaplain)
Have possibilities for him in 1851 in Whitsun (where his father caught the cold that killed him) as a servant and possibly in Leicestershire as a visitor in 1861.
In 1881 census he was in Lancashire where he married his sister (not literally!!!!).
Jude
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27 Sep 2015 08:28 |
OK Alfred...he was Alfred Ollivant 1871 Name: Alfred O Francis Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Francis Gender: Male Where born: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Civil Parish: St Peter County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 193 Piece: 3567 Folio: 82 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age Alfred O Francis 32 Emily Francis 30 Helen M Francis 2 Mabel Francis 1 Month Emma Drucot 21 Esther Pedley 23 Annie Slack 20 Herbert L Maning 23 Emily M Francis 3
1881
Name: Alfred O. Francis Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Emily Francis Gender: Male Where born: Newport, Monmouth, Wales Civil Parish: Derby St Werburgh County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 16 Wardwick Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: General Practitioner L.R.C.P. Edin M.R.C.S. Eng Registration district: Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3399 Folio: 105 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Alfred O. Francis 42 Emily Francis 41 Emily M. Francis 13 Ellen M. Francis 12 Mable G. Francis 10 Alfred O. Francis 8 Percy O. Francis 6 Herbert A. Smith 30 Bernard C. Smith 25 Caroline L. Griffith 31 Emily C. Juesbury 26 Mary Y. Simnett 20 Emma Bishop 20 1891
Name: Alfred O Francis Age: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Francis Gender: Male Where born: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales Civil Parish: St Werburgh Ecclesiastical parish: St Werburgh Town: Derby County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2731 Folio: 139 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Alfred O Francis 52 Emily Francis 51 Shafto Edleton 20 George Kennedy 15 Annie Stevens 30 Sophia Orme 19 Edith Taylor 15
But I can't find him before this!!!!
He married in Islington in 1866
Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%) Francis Alfred O Islington 1b 470 HALLIWELL Emily Islington 1b 470
He was a GP
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27 Sep 2015 08:31 |
This could be him in 1861...getting closer
Name: Alfred A Francis Age: 25 Estimated birth year: 1836 Relation: Apprentice Gender: Male Where born: S Wales, Newport Civil Parish: Kingswinford Ecclesiastical parish: Brierly Hill County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Stourbridge Sub-registration district: Kingswinford ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 51 Piece: 2073 Folio: 54 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Henry Walker 43 Penelope Walker 46 Alfred A Francis 25 Ann Smithyman 32 Mary Cumm 18 Walter B Stone 9 Jude
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27 Sep 2015 08:42 |
Name:Albert Edward Francis (reverend)
Probate Date:16 Sep 1898
Registry:Manchester, England
Death Date:23 Jul 1898
Death Place:Lancashire, England
Probate to: Emily Beatrice (widow) & Francis Ermen (gentleman) & Henry Taylor (solicitor) £8037 3s 6d
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27 Sep 2015 08:56 |
John's baptism
First name(s) JOHN Last name FRANCIS Birth year 1837 Baptism year 1837 Baptism day 24 Baptism month Feb Place NEWPORT, ST WOOLOS Mother's first name(s) Mary Father's first name(s) James County Monmouthshire Country Wales Record set Monmouthshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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27 Sep 2015 10:40 |
James Francis was buried 30 May 1843 and he's under the Porch of St Paul's Church, Newport
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