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24 Sep 2015 09:35 |
This is how James Chamberlain started out in life: James chamberlain age 20, born abt 1819 in Birmingham,warwickshire, Date received: 13 November 1839 Ship: Fortitude Place Moved:Chatham Date Convicted:18 October 1839 Place Covicted : Birmingham .......When he came out of prison after his seven yr stretch, he marries Sara turner in 1850, his father is also Thomas ( a Brickmaker), He then marries again in 1851 and is described as a widower,to Ann Stanton...and his third and final marriage ( I think) is 1854 to mary Ann morgan James is a widow yet again living at the same address as he gives on previous marrigaes, "john street" Birmingham"...PLEASE CAN SOMEONE READ THE REASON WHY JAMES HAS GOT HIMSELF IN PRISON AND ALSO I CAN`T FOR THE HELL OF ME FIND HIM ON ANY OTHER CENSUSES AFTER HIS LAST MARRIAGE IN 1854....thanks x
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24 Sep 2015 09:44 |
Name:James Chamberlain
Age:20
Estimated birth year:abt 1819
Date of Trial:18 Oct 1839
Trial Year:1839
Location of Trial:Warwickshire, England
Sentence:Transportation <<<He got 7 years
Larceny before convicted of felony
Name:James Chamberlain <<Brickmaker, single
Age:20
Estimated birth year:abt 1819
Date Received:13 Nov 1839
Ship:Fortitude
Place Moored:Chatham
Date Convicted:18 Oct 1839
Place Convicted:Birmingham
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24 Sep 2015 09:49 |
Name:James Chamberlain
Age:19
Estimated birth year:abt 1821
Date of Trial:10 Mar 1840
Trial Year:1840
Location of Trial:Warwickshire, England
Sentence:Imprisonment 3 months
Crime:See Image <<Larceny
Date of Execution or Release:
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24 Sep 2015 09:52 |
Name:James Chamberlain
Age:30
Estimated birth year:abt 1821
Relation:Brother
Mother's name:Elizabeth Chamberlain
Gender:Male
Where born:Birmingham
Civil Parish:Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish:St Peter
County/Island:Warwickshire
Registration district:Birmingham
Sub-registration district:St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel:03
Household schedule number:141
Piece:2057
Folio:94
Page Number:44
Household Members:
William Wachett 32 Eliza Wachett 35 Elizabeth Wachett 18 Eliza Auden 11 Joseph Huchett 6 Ellen Huchett 1 Elizabeth Chamberlain 73 James Chamberlain 30 <<Brickmaker, widowed
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24 Sep 2015 09:54 |
Aris's Birmingham Gazette - Monday 21 October 1839
James Chamberlain for stealing ten pounds weight of lead property of Ann Parker and another- seven years transportation.
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24 Sep 2015 09:55 |
Name:James Chamberlain
Birth Date:24 Jun 1818
Baptism Date:31 Aug 1818
Baptism Place:Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Father: Thomas Chamberlain <<Labouring
Mother: Elizabeth Chamberlain
Reference Number:DRO 25/12
Archive Roll:M38
Added: You have got all three marriages correct, I can post them if you like (parish records)
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24 Sep 2015 10:01 |
omg¬¬ aww it was tough back then :( Cheers Gins. any luck with the censuses please..oh so sorry Gins I didn't notice your comment at the bottom...I would luv you to post them please :-) :-) :-)
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24 Sep 2015 10:15 |
Oh NO!!!
Man of Ross, and General Advertiser - Thursday 18 December 1856
A MAN WITH FOUR WIVES A man said to be in the above interesting position was recently brought up at the police office, Birmingham, on a charge of bigamy. His name was James Chamberlain, his age 32, occupation a bricklayer, and his place of residence Brickkiln Street. The charge was preferred by Mary Ann Chamberlain, the third love of the prisoner. She stated that Chamberlain had been married four times. She was married to him some time ago but only lived with him for a short period on account of his brutal conduct towards her. He had lately married someone called Agnes, who now lived with him, and who had refused to prefer any charge against him. Sargeant Claxton said it was presumed his first wife was dead, and that the second was illegal. Mrs Chamberlain No. 3 who was the only one of the wives in court, agreed with the statement to a certain extent, and said she had seen Agnes on the subject, but she refused to attend. Mr Kynnersley said the accused could only be punished on the complaint of Agnes and he must therefore be discharged.
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24 Sep 2015 10:17 |
Cane
Send me your email address by PM and I will send you the documents so that you have a hard copy of the marriages
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24 Sep 2015 10:20 |
Thank and will do :-)
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24 Sep 2015 10:36 |
OH NOOOO!!! omg!!!...what is that man like...Hey thanks Austin....is there anything else on him please omg..poor Agnes...Did she know what she was letting herself in for :-( :-(
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24 Sep 2015 10:48 |
I can`t find the marriage between james and Agnes
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24 Sep 2015 11:05 |
Me neither
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24 Sep 2015 11:09 |
Did he end up in Oz
Name:Jas Chamberlain
Birth Year:abt 1823
Age:82
Death Place:Geelong, Victoria
Father's name:Chamberlain Thos
Mother's name:Elizth Jewsbory <<that surname can't be right!
Registration Year:1905
Registration Place:Victoria
Registration Number:5457
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24 Sep 2015 11:10 |
Perhaps she was just known as Agnes??
There is this marriage- I wondered if he'd made himself appear younger?
Name: James Chamberlain (Widower- Brick maker) Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1827 Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1856 Marriage Age: 29 Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Stephen, Warwickshire, England Spouse: Harriet Griffiths Spouse Gender: Female Spouse Marriage Age: 22 Father: Thomas Chamberlain ( Brickmaker) Spouse's Father: John Griffiths
Both living Lancaster Street.
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24 Sep 2015 11:24 |
Yes I also noticed this one, everything appears to fit, apart from his age, but I wouldn't put it past him now
Austn I want to attatch that info "THE MAN WITH FOUR WIVES" to james tree, but I cant find the link on Ancestry
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24 Sep 2015 11:25 |
Think the above marriage to Harriet is correct- this is a child of theirs born 3 court, BRICKKILN STREET- which was the address given for him in the article
Baptism: Name: William Chamberlain Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1862 Baptism Place: Birmingham, Bishop Ryder, Warwickshire, England Father: James Chamberlain (Brickmaker) Mother: Harriet Chamberlain Reference Number: DRO 30 Archive Roll: M1 ----------------------------------------------------
This could be Harriet and their children (although I'm struggling to spot on earlier census):
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Legge Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
William Chamberlain Head Married Male 28 1863 Brass Founder Caster Birmingham, Warwickshire, Mary A Chamberlain Wife Married Female 25 1866 Brass Founder Caster Birmingham, Warwickshire Harriett Chamberlain Mother Widow Female 52 1839 Living On Her Own Means Birmingham, Warwickshire John Chamberlain Brother Single Male 21 1870 Brass Founder Caster Birmingham, Warwicks William Cartwright Nephew Single Male 4 1887 - Birmingham, Warwickshire
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24 Sep 2015 11:31 |
Have sent the article- it was from the British Newspaper Archive- also accessible through Find My Past.
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24 Sep 2015 11:35 |
ime thinking that there could be a photo of him some where,seeing as hes now a criminal..Could anyone suggest anything
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24 Sep 2015 11:42 |
1871?
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Brickiln Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
James Chamblin Head - Male 40 1831 - Warwickshire, England Harriet Chamblin Wife - Female 34 1837 - Warwickshire, England Selina Chamblin Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Warwickshire, England Harriet Chamblin Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Warwickshire, England William Chamblin Son - Male 4 1867 - Warwickshire, England John Chamblin Son - Male 1 1870 - Warwickshire, England
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