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cane

cane Report 24 Sep 2015 09:35

This is how James Chamberlain started out in life:
James chamberlain age 20, born abt 1819 in Birmingham,warwickshire,
Date received: 13 November 1839
Ship: Fortitude
Place Moved:Chatham
Date Convicted:18 October 1839
Place Covicted : Birmingham .......When he came out of prison after his seven yr stretch, he marries Sara turner in 1850, his father is also Thomas ( a Brickmaker), He then marries again in 1851 and is described as a widower,to Ann Stanton...and his third and final marriage ( I think) is 1854 to mary Ann morgan James is a widow yet again living at the same address as he gives on previous marrigaes, "john street" Birmingham"...PLEASE CAN SOMEONE READ THE REASON WHY JAMES HAS GOT HIMSELF IN PRISON AND ALSO I CAN`T FOR THE HELL OF ME FIND HIM ON ANY OTHER CENSUSES AFTER HIS LAST MARRIAGE IN 1854....thanks x

Gee

Gee Report 24 Sep 2015 09:44


Name:James Chamberlain

Age:20

Estimated birth year:abt 1819

Date of Trial:18 Oct 1839

Trial Year:1839

Location of Trial:Warwickshire, England

Sentence:Transportation <<<He got 7 years

Larceny before convicted of felony



Name:James Chamberlain <<Brickmaker, single

Age:20

Estimated birth year:abt 1819

Date Received:13 Nov 1839

Ship:Fortitude

Place Moored:Chatham

Date Convicted:18 Oct 1839

Place Convicted:Birmingham

Gee

Gee Report 24 Sep 2015 09:49


Name:James Chamberlain

Age:19

Estimated birth year:abt 1821

Date of Trial:10 Mar 1840

Trial Year:1840

Location of Trial:Warwickshire, England

Sentence:Imprisonment 3 months

Crime:See Image <<Larceny

Date of Execution or Release:

Gee

Gee Report 24 Sep 2015 09:52


Name:James Chamberlain

Age:30

Estimated birth year:abt 1821

Relation:Brother

Mother's name:Elizabeth Chamberlain

Gender:Male

Where born:Birmingham

Civil Parish:Birmingham

Ecclesiastical parish:St Peter

County/Island:Warwickshire

Registration district:Birmingham

Sub-registration district:St Mary

ED, institution, or vessel:03

Household schedule number:141

Piece:2057

Folio:94

Page Number:44

Household Members:


William Wachett 32
Eliza Wachett 35
Elizabeth Wachett 18
Eliza Auden 11
Joseph Huchett 6
Ellen Huchett 1
Elizabeth Chamberlain 73
James Chamberlain 30 <<Brickmaker, widowed

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Sep 2015 09:54

Aris's Birmingham Gazette - Monday 21 October 1839

James Chamberlain for stealing ten pounds weight of lead property of Ann Parker and another- seven years transportation.

Gee

Gee Report 24 Sep 2015 09:55


Name:James Chamberlain

Birth Date:24 Jun 1818

Baptism Date:31 Aug 1818

Baptism Place:Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England

Father:
Thomas Chamberlain <<Labouring

Mother:
Elizabeth Chamberlain

Reference Number:DRO 25/12

Archive Roll:M38


Added: You have got all three marriages correct, I can post them if you like (parish records)

cane

cane Report 24 Sep 2015 10:01

omg¬¬ aww it was tough back then :( Cheers Gins. any luck with the censuses please..oh so sorry Gins I didn't notice your comment at the bottom...I would luv you to post them please :-) :-) :-)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Sep 2015 10:15

Oh NO!!!

Man of Ross, and General Advertiser - Thursday 18 December 1856

A MAN WITH FOUR WIVES
A man said to be in the above interesting position was recently brought up at the police office, Birmingham, on a charge of bigamy. His name was James Chamberlain, his age 32, occupation a bricklayer, and his place of residence Brickkiln Street. The charge was preferred by Mary Ann Chamberlain, the third love of the prisoner. She stated that Chamberlain had been married four times. She was married to him some time ago but only lived with him for a short period on account of his brutal conduct towards her. He had lately married someone called Agnes, who now lived with him, and who had refused to prefer any charge against him. Sargeant Claxton said it was presumed his first wife was dead, and that the second was illegal. Mrs Chamberlain No. 3 who was the only one of the wives in court, agreed with the statement to a certain extent, and said she had seen Agnes on the subject, but she refused to attend. Mr Kynnersley said the accused could only be punished on the complaint of Agnes and he must therefore be discharged.

Gee

Gee Report 24 Sep 2015 10:17

Cane

Send me your email address by PM and I will send you the documents so that you have a hard copy of the marriages

cane

cane Report 24 Sep 2015 10:20

Thank and will do :-)

cane

cane Report 24 Sep 2015 10:36

OH NOOOO!!! omg!!!...what is that man like...Hey thanks Austin....is there anything else on him please
omg..poor Agnes...Did she know what she was letting herself in for :-( :-(

cane

cane Report 24 Sep 2015 10:48

I can`t find the marriage between james and Agnes

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Sep 2015 11:05

Me neither

Gee

Gee Report 24 Sep 2015 11:09

Did he end up in Oz



Name:Jas Chamberlain

Birth Year:abt 1823

Age:82

Death Place:Geelong, Victoria

Father's name:Chamberlain Thos

Mother's name:Elizth Jewsbory <<that surname can't be right!

Registration Year:1905

Registration Place:Victoria

Registration Number:5457

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Sep 2015 11:10

Perhaps she was just known as Agnes??

There is this marriage- I wondered if he'd made himself appear younger?

Name: James Chamberlain (Widower- Brick maker)
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1827
Marriage Date: 20 Oct 1856
Marriage Age: 29
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Stephen, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Harriet Griffiths
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: 22
Father: Thomas Chamberlain ( Brickmaker)
Spouse's Father: John Griffiths

Both living Lancaster Street.

cane

cane Report 24 Sep 2015 11:24

Yes I also noticed this one, everything appears to fit, apart from his age, but I wouldn't put it past him now

Austn I want to attatch that info "THE MAN WITH FOUR WIVES" to james tree, but I cant find the link on Ancestry

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Sep 2015 11:25

Think the above marriage to Harriet is correct- this is a child of theirs born 3 court, BRICKKILN STREET- which was the address given for him in the article

Baptism:
Name: William Chamberlain
Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1862
Baptism Place: Birmingham, Bishop Ryder, Warwickshire, England
Father: James Chamberlain (Brickmaker)
Mother: Harriet Chamberlain
Reference Number: DRO 30
Archive Roll: M1
----------------------------------------------------

This could be Harriet and their children (although I'm struggling to spot on earlier census):

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Legge Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

William Chamberlain Head Married Male 28 1863 Brass Founder Caster Birmingham, Warwickshire,
Mary A Chamberlain Wife Married Female 25 1866 Brass Founder Caster Birmingham, Warwickshire
Harriett Chamberlain Mother Widow Female 52 1839 Living On Her Own Means Birmingham, Warwickshire
John Chamberlain Brother Single Male 21 1870 Brass Founder Caster Birmingham, Warwicks
William Cartwright Nephew Single Male 4 1887 - Birmingham, Warwickshire

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Sep 2015 11:31

Have sent the article- it was from the British Newspaper Archive- also accessible through Find My Past.

cane

cane Report 24 Sep 2015 11:35

ime thinking that there could be a photo of him some where,seeing as hes now a criminal..Could anyone suggest anything

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 24 Sep 2015 11:42

1871?

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Brickiln Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

James Chamblin Head - Male 40 1831 - Warwickshire, England
Harriet Chamblin Wife - Female 34 1837 - Warwickshire, England
Selina Chamblin Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Warwickshire, England
Harriet Chamblin Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Warwickshire, England
William Chamblin Son - Male 4 1867 - Warwickshire, England
John Chamblin Son - Male 1 1870 - Warwickshire, England