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14 Sep 2015 14:01 |
Greyghost - thanks for clearing up that bit of the puzzle
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14 Sep 2015 11:30 |
mgnv's 1841 census in Kent shows William Jeffery aged 45 and John Jeffery aged 20 both as Agricultural Labourers.
There is nothing to distinguish the names given as other than in the same household. But it's not an Institution, just several pages of "ditto" under the heading of "Town" as opposed to cottages that came before and the schoolhouse after.
The Davis' and William Millstead are the last 3 entries on a previous page which is very dark, has various ticks and crosses and therefore difficult to read occupations.
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14 Sep 2015 06:08 |
All the US censuses thru 1940 are available via: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES
There are free image links for 1850/70/1900/40. 1890 was completely destroyed for WI Nominal census day was 1/6/1830-1900,15/4/1910,1/1/1920, 1/4/1930-40
There are also free state census images, but this census only names the head of h/h. and the # of each sex in h/h. (I've not checked all years)
Lisbon is 8m WSW of Menomonee Falls which is 20m NW of Milwaukee WI
It wasn't unusual for the hubby (or maybe an adult son) to go out first & get stuff like jobs, accomodation, etc sorted, and then for wife & kids to join him later This was the case for my dad, & ma-i-l - both had a cousin come out first, and the uncle followed later.
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1850 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4DR-PDQ 1850 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4DR-P8Q [John a=33, Geo a=21; Jas a=28] 1850 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4DR-YZ3 [Jane a=27]
1860 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW96-B2S Page 67 John Jeffrey M 43 England Mary Ann Jeffrey F 39 England George Jeffrey M 18 England William Jeffrey M 14 Wisconsin Ann Jeffrey F 12 Wisconsin Jane Jeffrey F 10 Wisconsin Mary Jeffrey F 7 Wisconsin Emeline Jeffrey F 4 Wisconsin Louisa Jeffrey F 3 Wisconsin [Household ID 473 GS Film Number 805436 Digital Folder Number 004300462 Image Number 00429 ]
1860 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW96-BPX Page 69 Wm Jeffry M 66 England Mariah Jeffry F 60 England Susan Jeffry F 29 England -------------- Henry Jeffry M 21 England Robert Jeffry M 13 Wisconsin [Household ID 489 GS Film Number 805436 Digital Folder Number 004300462 Image Number 00431-2]
1860 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW96-1ST Page 66 Wm Jeffery M 40 England -------------- Mary Jeffery F 37 England Anna Jeffery F 15 England George Jeffery M 13 England Jane Jeffery F 11 England Mary Jeffery F 8 Wisconsin Alzina Jeffery F 5 Wisconsin Laura A Jeffery F 2 Wisconsin [Household ID 470 GS Film Number 805436 Digital Folder Number 004300462 Image Number 00428-9 ]
1870 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNSD-KF2 When you click on image link, you'll see Robert in next h/h, followed by Wm Jr. It's not clear if Wm Jr's h/h finishes on this page, so open the image in a new window [link at top right] In this new window, I can page thru the images. Wm's h/h doesn't continue onto next page, but midway down that page is bro John's h/h.
1880 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNHG-127 Affiliate Film Number 1451 William Jeffery Self M 60 England George Jeffery Son M 32 England Clara Jeffery Daughter F 19 Wisconsin, United States Clara Garver Other F 21 Illinois, United States Laurie Jeffery Daughter F 21 Wisconsin, United States William Wildish Nephew M 15 Wisconsin, United States Mary Jeffery Wife F 57 England [District 258 Sheet Number and Letter 72B GS Film Number 1255451 Digital Folder Number 004244779 Image Number 00149 ]
1880 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNHG-12V Affiliate Film Number 1451 John Jeffery Self M 62 England William H Jeffery Son M 34 Wisconsin, United States Emma Jeffery Daughter F 24 Wisconsin, United States Louisa Jeffery Daughter F 23 Wisconsin, United States Albert Jeffery Son M 13 Wisconsin, United States Mary A Jeffery Wife F 59 England Otto Herman Other M 23 Wisconsin, United States [District 258 Sheet Number and Letter 72B GS Film Number 1255451 Digital Folder Number 004244779 Image Number 00149 - same as Wm]
1880 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNHG-1L9 Affiliate Film Number 1451 Henry Jeffery Self M 41 England Nellie Jeffery Daughter F 14 Wisconsin, United States Stinla H Jeffery Son M 3 Wisconsin, United States Emila Jeffery Wife F 32 Wisconsin, United States [District 258 Sheet Number and Letter 73C GS Film Number 1255451 Digital Folder Number 004244779 Image Number 00150 - next page]
1880 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNHP-SYC Nelson Greengo Self M 46 England Elizabeth Greengo Wife F 45 England Albert Greengo Son M 13 Wisconsin, United States Fannie Greengo Daughter F 9 Wisconsin, United States Ernest Greengo Son M 7 Wisconsin, United States [District 258 Sheet Number and Letter 73D GS Film Number 1255451 Digital Folder Number 004244779 Image Number 00151 - page after]
1910 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPVQ-XPW Emily Jeffrey Head F 62 Wisconsin Charles H Jeffrey Son M 20 Wisconsin [District 163 Sheet Number and Letter 13A Household ID 53 GS Film number 1375754 Digital Folder Number 004454421 Image Number 00415 ]
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPV3-JZT George Jeffery Head M 62 England Laura Jeffery Sister F 52 Wisconsin Mary Jeffery Sister F 57 Wisconsin Arthur Bird Hired man M 17 Wisconsin Henry Brick Boarder M 29 Wisconsin [District 162 Sheet Number and Letter 15A Household ID 301 GS Film number 1375754 Digital Folder Number 004454421 Image Number 00387 ]
For decent resolution, magnify 4 clicks, then save image: 1860 https://archive.org/stream/populationschedu1436unix#page/n432/mode/1up [This is Henry a=21 & Robt a=13; - you can click back a page for Wm Sr, but he & the rest of his h/h are completely unreadable. click back twice more for John & almost al of Wm Jr's h/h; click back once more for a totally unreadable Wm Jr. The quality of these images is appalling - resumably Ancestry or GR/FMP is better] 1880 https://archive.org/stream/populationsc18801451unit#page/n147/mode/1up [easiest to click on next page button for rest of John's h/h. +Henry & click again for Eliz] 1910 https://archive.org/stream/thirteenthcensus1741usce#page/n413/mode/1up https://archive.org/stream/thirteenthcensus1741usce#page/n385/mode/1up
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14 Sep 2015 06:06 |
1841 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQKL-48C Name Wm Jeffery Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place Biddenden, Kent, England Residence Note Town Gender Male Age 45-49 Age (Original) 45 Occupation Null Birth Year (Estimated) 1796-1800 Birthplace Kent Registration District Tenterden Book Number 7 Parish Biddenden County Kent Page Number 17 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 471/57 Affiliate Record Type Institution HOUSEHOLD ROLE GENDER AGE BIRTHPLACE Edwd Davis M NULL Kent Wm Davis M NULL Kent Wm Millsted M NULL Kent Charles Millsted M NULL Kent Wm Jeffery M 45 Kent Mary Jeffery F 40 Kent John Jeffery M 20 Kent George Jeffery M 13 Kent Susannah Jeffery F 11 Kent Mary Jeffery F 10 Kent Jane Jeffery F 8 Kent Elizabeth Jeffery F 5 Kent Henry Jeffery M 2 Kent Elizabeth Jeffery F 65 Kent Sarah Pain F NULL Kent [Adult (15+) ages were supposed to be rounded down to a mult of 5 in 1841] [ref=ho107/471/7/57/17]
I don't have a sub, so can't see image *** IS THIS REALLY AN INSTITUTION - WHAT SORT? ANY OCCUPS SHOWN? ***
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Not sure of relevance http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl County Kent Place Biddenden Church All Saints Tr MarriageDate 09 Dec 1816 GroomForename William GroomSurname Jeffery BrideForename Mary BrideSurname Wimsett Notes FileNumber 2612
County Kent Place Biddenden Church All Saints Tr MarriageDate 13 May 1843 GroomForename William GroomSurname Jeffery BrideForename Mary Ann BrideSurname Wildish Notes FileNumber 2612
County Kent Place Biddenden Church All Saints Tr RegisterNumber MarriageDate 14 Oct 1850 GroomForename William GroomSurname Read BrideForename Mary Collins BrideSurname Jeffery Notes FileNumber 2612
County Kent Place Benenden Church St George Tr RegisterNumber MarriageDate 25 Dec 1853 GroomForename William GroomSurname Jeffery BrideForename Elizabeth BrideSurname Vousden Notes FileNumber 2738
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John Jeffery Birth: May 22, 1818 Death: Jun. 1, 1901
From "History of Waukesha Co., WI" by Western Histoical Company., Chicago 1880 JOHN JEFFERY, farmer, Sec. 2; P. O. Sussex. This gentleman, one of the first settlers in the north part of Lisbon, was born in County Kent, England, May 22, 1818; in 1844, he came to this country. Married in Oneida Co., N. Y., Mary A. Callow; she was also born in England; in 1843, they moved to Wisconsin, settling in the town of Lisbon, Waukesha Co., which has been their home since; their children are William H., Ann, wife of Myron Oliver; Jane, wife of Franklin Oliver; Mary, wife of Albert Crouch; Emily Louise, Alice and Albert; all of the above live in Lisbon, except the Mrs. Oliver, who lives in Verona, Minn. There are three children deceased, viz., George, who was a soldier in the 28th W. V. I., during the war of the rebellion, and died in the service at Helena, Ark.; he was a good soldier. Elizabeth and George died in Lisbon. Mr. Jeffery has witnessed the trials and privations of pioneer life in North Lisbon, and has a vivid recollection of it as a vast forest. He owns 130 acres of land. Family links: Parents: William Jeffery (1794 - 1877) Mary Ann Wimsett Jeffery (1799 - 1875) Children: Jane E. Jeffrey Oliver (1849 - 1885)* Siblings: John Jeffery (1818 - 1901) William Jeffery (1820 - 1893)* Elizabeth Jeffrey Greengo (1836 - 1917)* *Calculated relationship Burial: Union Cemetery Menomonee Falls Waukesha County Wisconsin, USA http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Jeffery&GSiman=1&GScid=89420&GRid=30504232& https://archive.org/details/cu31924028871627 In particular: https://archive.org/stream/cu31924028871627#page/n1013/mode/2up
Looks like a bit of inbreeding here:
Emily Jeffery Birth: Mar. 16, 1848 Death: Mar. 8, 1915 Daughter of Charles and Harriet Greengo Wildish. Wife of Henry Thomas Jeffery Burial: Union Cemetery Menomonee Falls Waukesha County Wisconsin, USA http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Jeffery&GSiman=1&GScty=161582&GRid=30147618&
Henry T Jeffery Birth: Dec. 18, 1839 Death: Nov. 14, 1907
Susan Jeffrey [NB respelling] Birth: Aug. 14, 1829 Death: Apr. 18, 1910
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JoonieCloonie
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12 Sep 2015 20:56 |
this is the person who maintains the findagrave memorial for Mary Ann (I am not sure whether non members can see it)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=46580208
the messages on her page show that she is the person who submitted all the info I quoted above about WILLIAM JEFFERY 1920 so she would seem to be a family member
it is free to join that site and she can be contacted through there (and actually her email address is posted on that profile)
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12 Sep 2015 20:54 |
Roland Hills Pearson was also born in Kent, and he emigrated in 1850, according to 1900 census:
Hills Pearson in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Hills Pearson Gender: Male Baptism Date: 2 Dec 1830 Baptism Place: Smarden, Kent, England Father: Samuel Pearson Mother: Ann FHL Film Number: 1473767 Reference ID: 61
Smarden is very close to Biddenden, so chances are they knew each other before emigrating.
Maybe ????
Hiles Pierson in the New York, Passenger and Immigration Lists, 1820-1850 Name: Hiles Pierson Arrival Date: 3 Dec 1849 Age: 20 Gender: M (Male) Port of Arrival: New York Port of Departure: London Place of Origin: England Ship: Prince Albert Family Identification: 3066789 Microfilm Serial Number: M237 Microfilm Roll Number: 85
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12 Sep 2015 20:49 |
Daughter Mary Ann, who married Roland Hills Pearson in Wisconsin in 1852, must have travelled earlier.
1900 census says she arrived in 1845:
Mary Pearson
in the 1900 United States Federal Census Name: Mary Pearson Age: 69 Birth Date: May 1831 Birthplace: England Home in 1900: New Lisbon, Juneau, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1845 Relation to Head of House: Wife Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Niels Pearson Marriage Year: 1852 Years Married: 48 Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Mother: number of living children: 6 Mother: How many children: 8 Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Niels Pearson 70 - Hills, not Neils Mary Pearson 69 Albert Pearson 31
Her grave - and a photo:
http://tinyurl.com/ohlqfuc
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JoonieCloonie
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12 Sep 2015 19:04 |
the memorial at findagrave for son William states
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=68527724
Birth: Jan. 31, 1820 Kent, England Death: Aug. 30, 1893 WILLIAM JEFFERY, farmer, Sec. 2; P. O. Sussex; was born in 1820, County Kent, England. He married in his native county, Mary A. Wildish; they crossed the Atlantic in 1852; purchased a farm in the town of Lisbon, Waukesha Co., Wis., the same year, and have been residents of that town since; their children are George, Fannie, Jane, Mary, Laura and Clara A.; the second oldest, Mary, is the wife of J. A. Griswold of Pewaukee; the third oldest, Jane, is the wife of Rev. Samuel Jolliffe, M. E. minister, North Prairie, Wis. Mr. Jeffery owns 105 acres of land; is a most successful farmer; the improvements on his farm buildings, etc., are of the best.
and links to his family graves
Spouse: Mary Wildish Jeffery (1823 - 1890) Children: George Jeffery (1847 - 1919)* Mary Jeffery (1852 - 1922)* Alzina Jeffery (1855 - 1870)* Laura A. Jeffery (1858 - 1928)* Siblings: John Jeffery (1818 - 1901)* William Jeffery (1820 - 1893) Elizabeth Jeffrey Greengo (1836 - 1917)*
so that seems to explain the 1842 and 1852 passages :-)
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12 Sep 2015 19:01 |
these are the parents' graves at findagrave.com
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=29991266
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=30504262
naming also children John and William and Elizabeth Greengo
the info given for William states:
Birth: May 23, 1794 Biddenden Kent, England Death: Jun. 20, 1877 Waukesha County Wisconsin, USA William was born in Biddenden, Kent County, England. He immigrated with his sons, John and George on board the "Mediater" arriving in New York on 26 April 1842 from England. His wife and other children followed later.
there is no indication of the relationship to the person who manages the memorial but presumably that info was provided by a family member
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12 Sep 2015 17:54 |
Right names, but wrong ages - I'll post this anyway, just in case!
EDIT: Yes, in light of JoonieCloonie's post below, they seem to be son William, his wife Mary and their children, plus his sisters Susan and Sarah. Not sure about E A Jeffery (male).
All travelling together in 1852:
Wm Jeffery, 31 Mary Jeffery, 29 Fanny Jeffery, 6 George Jeffery, 4 Jane Jeffery, 2 Sarah Jeffery, 26 Susan Jeffery, 22 E A Jeffery, 20
That's on the image for this record:
Susan Jeffery in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Susan Jeffery Arrival Date: 30 Mar 1852 Birth Date: abt 1830 Age: 22 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Place of Origin: England Port of Departure: London, England Destination: United States of America Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: American Congress
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12 Sep 2015 17:37 |
Re the ship info:
George's DOB's near enough, but John's is a bit out - but I can't see the image on Ancestry to check:
New York, Passenger and Immigration Lists, 1820-1850 Passenger Lists Name: George Jeffery Birth: abt 1828 Origin: Great Britain Departure: London Arrival: 26 Apr 1842 - New York New York, Passenger and Immigration Lists, 1820-1850 Passenger Lists Name: John Jeffery Birth: abt 1829 Origin: Great Britain Departure: London Arrival: 26 Apr 1842 - New York
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12 Sep 2015 17:30 |
ArgyllGran - what an absolute star you are. I am grateful for all that information. It looks as if more or less the whole family emigrated although there is only mention of William and sons John and George on the ship info (above). Maybe they went at slightly different times. That is something I will try and find out. Thank you so much for your help[.I really do appreciate it.
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12 Sep 2015 17:25 |
Susan and Mary Ann christened same day as George, Sarah, William, and the first John:
Susan Jeffery
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 18 March 1832 Biddenden, Kent, England residence: Kent, England father: William Jeffery mother: Mary
Mary Ann Jeffery
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 18 March 1832 Biddenden, Kent, England residence: Biddenden, Kent, England father: William Jeffery mother: Mar
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12 Sep 2015 17:20 |
William Jeffery
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 18 March 1832 Biddenden, Kent, England residence: Biddenden, Kent, England father: William Jeffery mother: Mary Jeffery
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12 Sep 2015 17:19 |
Henry Thomas Jeffery
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 21 July 1839 Biddenden, Kent, England residence: Kent, England father: William Jeffery mother: Mary
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12 Sep 2015 17:18 |
Jane christened same day as Elizabeth above:
Jane Jeffery
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 12 June 1836 Biddenden, Kent, England residence: Biddenden, Kent, England father: William Jeffery mother: Mary Jeffery
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12 Sep 2015 17:12 |
Elizabeth Jeffery
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 12 June 1836 Biddenden, Kent, England residence: Kent, England father: William Jeffery mother: Mary
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12 Sep 2015 17:10 |
Two possible Johns, including the one Margaret has:
John Jeffery
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 18 March 1832 Biddenden, Kent, England residence: Kent, England father: William Jeffery mother: Mary
John Jeffery
England, Kent, Parish Registers, 1538-1911 christening: 15 September 1844 Biddenden, Kent, England father: William Jeffery mother: Mary Jeffery
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12 Sep 2015 17:09 |
Re a George, I can see this one, but not the one listed on that tree:
George Jeffery England Births and Christenings Name George Jeffery Gender Male Christening Date 18 Mar 1832 Christening Place Biddenden, Kent, England Father's Name William Jeffery Mother's Name Mary Jeffery
also a Sarah, christened the same day:
Sarah Jeffery England Births and Christenings Name Sarah Jeffery Gender Female Christening Date 18 Mar 1832 Christening Place Biddenden, Kent, England Father's Name William Jeffery Mother's Name Mary
And presumably the same Sarah's marriage in Waukesha, so looks like the same family as Margaret's:
Sarah Jeffrey
Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930 marriage: 17 June 1856 Menomonee, Waukesha, Wisconsin father: Wm. Jeffrey mother: Mary Ann Jeffrey spouse: Daniel Pilgrim other: Joseph Pilgrim, Elizabeth Pilgrim
Frances Jeffry England, Kent, Parish Registers Name Frances Jeffry Event Type Christening Event Date 14 Sep 1845 Event Place Biddenden, Kent, England Father's Name William Jeffry Mother's Name Mary Jeffry
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12 Sep 2015 16:54 |
If Mary Ann's ms was Wimsett, there's a tree on Ancestry which lists some of those children, but also has some different ones, including a George. No proof given for the children's births .
The daughter Mary Ann (1831 Biddenden - 1911 New Lisbon,Wisconsin) seems to be the ancestor of the tree owner. She married Roland Pearson in Waukesha in 1852, so that narrows down the migration date, though migration isn't listed.
The family name is spelled Jeffery.
Family Members Parents
William Jeffery 1796 – 1893
Mary Ann Wimsett 1801 – 1874
Children: (all apparently born Biddenden, but no proof given):
John Jeffery 20/05/1818 –
James Jeffery 1823 –
Sarah Jeffery 20/03/1825 –
George Jeffery 1827 –
Susan Jeffery 14/08/ 1829 –
Mary Ann Jeffery 20/05/ 1831 – 1911
Elizabeth Jeffery 12/06/1836 –
Henry Thomas Jeffery 1839 –
John Jeffery 1844 –
Frances Jeffery 1845 –
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