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http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3486830/3486833/71/

(lol, you gotta laugh at him, now his window cleaning ladder is up for sale!)

Chris :)

http://newspapers.library.wales/

(Welsh Newspapers Online)


http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3478719/3478722/61/

("QUITE A COMMON MISTAKE.")

And I bet he probably pinched it off someone else! It is such fun.

At the GRO they thought it was great to have him in family. They just said most people are so booring!

Well thanks to you I have ordered what may well be Harry Derry's birth certificate. I will let you know when it arrives if it is him!

If I search (properly) on GRO can you find personal details about him like eye colour, hair colour height etc in the war records? In two different reports from two asylums one said he had brown eyes and one said blue.grey but it is the same guy!! He was very clever probably wore contacts!!

I am going to send for case records from another hospital/asylum and hope they can clarify.

Thank you

Josephine

This is the record when Charles first signs up for army- he is only 17 and 7 months. He starts in the Shropshire Regiment in 1893 (One of the newspaper articles said the Hampshire regiment- but I think that is a mistake), and then enlisted to the Welsh regiment in 1896.

First name(s) CHARLES
Last name DERRY
Birth year 1876
Birth parish RICHMOND SURREY
Birth town LONDON
Birth county SURREY
Service number 2114
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1893
Attestation Day 30
Attestation Month 10
Attestation age years 17
Attestation age months 7
Attestation Corps 4TH BATTALION SHROPSHIRE LT I REGIMENT

The above record describes him as almost 5ft 6" with a dark complexion and brown eyes and dark brown hair.

He's 42 when he signs up to the RAF in 1918- there he is described as 5ft 10 with fresh complexion, hazel eyes and dark hair. The record also includes his date of birth as 10:03:1876.

Another article (below) dated 27th November 1902 states that Charles Derry, window cleaner, was sent to prison for a month for striking his wife with a chair, The article claims they have TWO children. So, if this is the same man, we are still missing a child (that possibly died before the 1911 census), or maybe it's a mistake?

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3491418/3491420/16/

Another below on his escape from an asylum:
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4199284/4199287/77/

Hello

That is great. I now know. because of you, that I actually know this man!

On my Aunty's certificate it does say 2nd Battalion Welsh Regiment.

Hazel eyes would make sense because some people may say brown and some grey/green. 5' 10 is reasonable.

Oh dear, wife beating to add to his other offences! But I think it was slightly more common (but not excusable) then!

I will miss all these messages when there is nothing else to post!

Regards

Josephine

Just had another look at that article re the man who struck his wife with a chair- it wasn't your Charles, it was his father (as I suspect some of the other articles re window cleaning Charles are). He was listed as age 49 in 1902 so the two children at home would have been Ernest and Bernard.

Phew not a wife beater (yet) But nothing would surprise me now

I think I am getting unshockable!!

Thank you

Regards

Josephine

Hi Josephine.
So glad I have found this and reconnected with you after all this time. I tried to find you on here a little while ago when I realised that were were indeed related. Charles sure was a character! I also believe he was a highly intelligent man. He wrote several newpaper articles in The Western Mail, in particular an account of his time at Aisne during WW1. His brother Ernest (my great grandfather) was also a rouge!! I will fill you in on what I have found by e-mail when my internet is back up and running.
(I have just sent you an e-mail)
Speak soon
Jackie x