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Emily Brimson b.1849 father Richard Brimson

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Gillikins

Gillikins Report 11 Aug 2015 22:53

Emily is at home in Frome in 1851 Grope Lane Frome and 1861 Wiltshire Buildings Frome with her family. After that I CANNOT positively identify where she is. I find no death that fits after that.. and I have checked best I can for mispellings [often with this name] for other marriages, and discounted them...as I found suitable birth names to match.

I have traced most of her siblings, and aunts, and she is not at home with them.

I cannot find a baptism for her in Frome, but her birth ref. seems sure, between two siblings, and matching census.

Suitable marriages might be Emily Brimson, Warminster, Wilts 1869 to Parson or Haines. Charles Hansford Parsons seems to have a baptism in 1849 at Witham Friary, which gives his age.

She is not Emily LOUISE Brimson married in 1878 to Edward Densham, as her father is STATED as Edward Brimson.

There is an Emily Brimson marriage in 1885,1886, but I CANNOT find her in 1871 and 1881.

Any ideas, help please.

Gill

malyon

malyon Report 11 Aug 2015 22:59

Emily Brimson
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name Emily Brimson
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1849
Registration District Frome
County Somerset
Event Place Frome, Somerset, England
Volume 10
Page 361
Line Number 1

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Aug 2015 23:02


Marriages Dec 1846
Brimson Richard Frome 10 621
Norris Susan Frome 10 621



Name:
Emily Brimson

Registration Year:1849
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep

Registration district:Frome
Inferred County:Somerset

Volume:10
Page:361

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Aug 2015 23:05

1861


Richard Brimson 37
Susan Brimson 30
Emily Brimson 11
Frank Brimson 10
Ann Brimson 8
Richard Brimson 5
Sophia Brimson 4
Agnes Brimson 5/12
William Brimson 38

Mike *

Mike * Report 11 Aug 2015 23:11

1871


Name:
Emily Parsons

Age:21
Estimated birth year:abt 1850

Relation:Wife

Spouse's Name:Charles H Parsons

Where born:Frome, Somerset, England

Civil Parish:Rodden
Ecclesiastical parish:Rodden
County/Island:Somerset

Charles H Parsons 21 - Witham Friary, Somerset
Emily Parsons 21

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 12 Aug 2015 00:08

Thank you folks, this is the parents,
So it looks like the correct marriage.
I don't know why I could not find the 1871 census. I will try to trace her history now, and possibly any children.

Is it possible to use Genes Census search, searching with others in the household? How?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Aug 2015 01:11

Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
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BRIMSON Emily Warminster 5a 285
Parsons Charles Handsford Warminster 5a 285

Gritty

Gritty Report 12 Aug 2015 06:34

1871:
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hallmead, Rodden, Frome, Somerset, England
Charles H Parsons Head - Male 21 1850 - Somerset, England
Emily Parsons Wife - Female 21 1850 - Somerset, England
------------------------------------------------------------------

1881:
Name: Emily Parsons
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relationship to Head: Servant (Employee)
Gender: Female
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Wimbledon
County/Island: Surrey
Street address: 28 High Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Cook Dom
Registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Piece: 829
Folio: 35
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
John S. Amoore 30
Fanny S. Amoore 33
Edward J. Amoore 4
Gertrude Amoore 3
Maud S. Amoore 2
Emily Parsons 33
Elizabeth Pearce 19

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Aug 2015 07:28

Baptism
County Somerset
Place Frome
Church Workhouse Pr
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth 10 May 1851
BaptismDate
Forename Emily
Sex F
FatherForename
MotherForename Susan
MotherSurname BRIMSON
Abode Frome, C.F
FatherOccupation
Notes Illegitimate; registered Jun 4 1851

Baptism
County Somerset
Place Frome
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber 694
BaptismDate 07 Nov 1852
Forename Emily
FatherForename
MotherForename Susan
FatherSurname
MotherSurname BRIMSON
Abode Naish St


County Somerset
Place Frome
Church Badcox Lane Baptist Pr
RegisterNumber 92
MarriageDate 03 Nov 1846
GroomForename Richard
GroomSurname BRIMSON
GroomOccupation Shoemaker
BrideForename Susan
BrideSurname NORRIS


http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

(not sure on above!)

Chris :)


Wiltshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1871

BRIMSON Emily PARSONS Charles H Corsley, St Margaret of Antioch History Centre C9/1/291

http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

edits

(Baptism above perhaps below Birth, of Susan Brimson, 1851 Brimson Susan 1834 Frome, Somerset. Unmarried. Servant)

Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------
Brimson Emily Frome 10 424

?

Burial
County Somerset
Place Shepton Mallet
Church St Peter and Paul Pr
RegisterNumber 1386
BurialDate 03 May 1851
Forename Emily
Surname BRIMSON
Age 8m
Abode Union


Deaths Jun 1851 (>99%)
---------------------------------------------------------
Brimson Emily Shepton Mt 10 325
BRIMSON Emily Shepton Mallet 11 325

(must be below for Burial then!)

Births Sep 1850 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------
Brimson Emily Shepton Mallet 10 440


http://wsom-opc.org.uk/index.php?id=36

(if anything on above, Somerset)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2015 08:22

Charles Parsons in the 1881 England Census
Name:Charles Parsons
Age:34
Estimated birth year:abt 1847
Gender:Male
Where born:Witham Friary, Somerset, England
Civil Parish:Whatley
County/Island:Somerset
Country:England
Street address:Chapple and Chapple House
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Ag Lab
Registration district:Frome

Ernest Farnell 28
Selina Farnell 28
Joseph Farnell 3
Mary Farnell 1
Charles Parsons 34 (Brother)
Herbert Parsons 3 (Son of Brother)
Joseph Parsons 57 (Father of Brother)


Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
Furnell Ernest Frome 5c 783
Parsons Selina Mary A Frome 5c 783




Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Aug 2015 08:40

County Somerset
Place Frome
Church Holy Trinity Pr
RegisterNumber 137
MarriageDate 17 Apr 1876
GroomForename Ernest
GroomSurname FURNELL
GroomAge 23
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Farm Labourer
GroomAbode Critchill
BrideForename Selina Mary Ann
BrideSurname PARSONS
BrideAge 23
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation Folder
BrideAbode Critchill
GroomFatherForename William
GroomFatherSurname FURNELL
GroomFatherOccupation Farm Labourer deceased
BrideFatherForename Joseph
BrideFatherSurname PARSONS
BrideFatherOccupation Farm Labourer
WitnessOneForename Joseph
WitnessOneSurname PARSONS
WitnessTwoForename Sarah Elizabeth
WitnessTwoSurname HOLDEWAY
Notes Banns

(reference to Baptism mentioned below)

County Somerset
Place Witham Friary
Church St Mary the Virgin Pr
RegisterNumber 676
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 30 Dec 1849
Forename Charles Hansford
FatherForename Joseph
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname PARSONS
Abode Witham
FatherOccupation Labourer

Chris :)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2015 08:54

I think the son Herbert's birth was registered as Francis Herbert Parsons......

Francis Herbert Parsons in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Francis Herbert Parsons
Registration Year:1877
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Frome
Inferred County:Somerset
Volume:5c
Page:515

??

Herbert Parsons in the 1891 England Census
Name:Herbert Parsons
Age:14
Estimated birth year:abt 1877
Relation:Pauper (Institutional)
Gender:Male
Where born:Witham Friary, Somerset, England
Civil Parish:Frome
Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch
Town:Frome
County/Island:Somerset
Country:England

Registration district:Frome

ED, institution, or vessel:Frome Union Workhouse

Herbert Parsons 14


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2015 09:04

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
Parsons Herbert Francis Kingston 2a 916
UPSHELL Ellen Jane Kingston 2a 916

Herbert Francis Parsons in the 1911 England Census
Name:Herbert Francis Parsons
Age in 1911:31
Estimated birth year:abt 1880
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Frome, Somerset, England
Civil Parish:Wimbledon

County/Island:Surrey
Country:England
Street address:197 Southpark Rd, Wimbledon
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:6
Estimated Marriage Year:1905
Occupation:Warehouse Machine Textile Cotton
Registration district:Kingston
Registration District Number:40
Sub-registration district:Wimbledon

Household Members:

Herbert Francis Parsons 31
Ellen Jane Parsons 28
Charles Herbert Frederick Parsons 5
Edward George Samuel Parsons 3 Months 3 Weeks


Francis Herbert Parsons
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name:Francis Herbert Parsons
Probate Date:27 Feb 1951
Death Date:28 Jan 1951
Death Place:London, England
Registry:London, England

Francis Herbert otherwise Herbert Francis of 197 South Park Road, Wimbledon, London.
To Ellen Jane Parsons widow

Effects: £555 7s 3d


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Aug 2015 09:05

(correct there PH!, lol, spent too long in 'Somerset', sat at me chair here this morning, getting out now!, see ya later!)

Chris :)

Baptism
County Somerset
Place Frome
Church Christ Church Pr
RegisterNumber 85
DateOfBirth 22 Apr 1877
BaptismDate 21 Apr 1878
Forename Francis Herbert
FatherForename Charles Hansford
MotherForename Emily
FatherSurname PARSONS
MotherSurname
Abode No Butts
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes Easter Day

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 12 Aug 2015 09:06

Thanks Gritty, so she is living apart from hubby?
Chris's research.. Thanks for effort.. Sorry didn't mention that other Susan and her child before in workhouse.. She was some sort of cousin, and not Susan wife of Richard, although her child was also Emily.

Thanks for 1881.. See now my problem. Charles appears to be living with his sister ??? And his father Joseph too. And there is a 3 year old son. Brilliant!

They must have been desperate, poor things. Emily's mother died in1860 or 70 I forget, doesn't matter, and her dad lived until 1905. He married again in the 1870s.

Thank you thank you...

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2015 09:13

Have a nice day Chris. :-)

Prickles. x

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 12 Aug 2015 09:16

Brilliant help, thanks, thanks.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2015 09:26

I just need to get out of my onesie and I will be back.

:-D

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2015 09:49

I am trying to find Herbert/Francis in the 1901 census.... but not having any luck so far.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Aug 2015 10:47

Charles Herbert Frederick Parsons in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Charles Herbert Frederick Parsons
Gender:Male
Baptism Date:10 Jun 1906
Baptism Place:Wimbledon, Surrey, England
Father: Herbert Francis Parsons
Mother: Ellen Jane Parsons
FHL Film Number:2262125
Reference ID:48 p36


Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
Parsons Charles Herbert F Kingston 2a 404


Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
Parsons Edward G S Kingston 2a 401