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3 Aug 2015 20:02 |
I have found an entry in a 1901 Census which shows my Grandfather William Corbett age 23. On the same entry his Mother is shown as Elizabeth Hart. Included are four Corbett's and two Harts. The entry show Elizabeth as "wife" - I cannot find any records of the father - can anyone help or show me in the right direction.
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alviegal
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3 Aug 2015 20:12 |
For ref.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 12, Weardale Street, Tudhoe, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Elizabeth Hart Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Wordsley, Staffordshire, England Transcription Alfred Corbett Son Single Male 24 1877 General Labr Ironworks Ferry Hill, Durham, England Transcription William Corbett Son Single Male 23 1878 Coal Miner Hewer Spennymoor, Durham, England Transcription Elizabeth Corbett Daughter Single Female 16 1885 - Spennymoor, Durham, England Transcription Albert Corbett Son Single Male 11 1890 - Spennymoor, Durham, England Transcription Harry Hart Son Single Male 7 1894 - Spennymoor, Durham, England Transcription Richard Hart Son Single Male 4 1897 - Spennymoor, Durham, England
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alviegal
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3 Aug 2015 20:14 |
This is the 1881.
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 102, Hope Street, Tudhoe, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Wm Corbett Lodger Head Married Male 27 1854 Ironworker Staffordshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Corbett Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Staffordshire, England Transcription John H Corbett Son Single Male 6 1875 - Tudhoe, Durham, England Transcription Alfred Corbett Son Single Male 4 1877 - Tudhoe, Durham, England Transcription William Corbett Son Single Male 3 1878 - Tudhoe, Durham, England Transcription Ellen Corbett Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Staffordshire, England
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alviegal
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3 Aug 2015 20:18 |
His mother, Elizabeth's second marriage.
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) ELIZABETH Last name CORBETT Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1892 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ ELIZABETH CORBETT married one of these people JONATHAN BRAITHWAITE,>> HENRY HART<< District DURHAM District number - County Durham Country England Volume 10A Page 559
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alviegal
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3 Aug 2015 20:27 |
Possible first marriage.
Northumberland and Durham Marriages Transcription
Learn more Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) WILLIAM Last name CORBETT Marriage year 1874 Marriage day 21 Marriage month Jun Place - Groom's first name(s) William Groom's last name Corbett Groom's parish - Bride's first name(s) Elizabeth Bride's last name Wainwright Bride's parish - Description Spennymoor County Durham Country England
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Peter
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3 Aug 2015 20:31 |
Oh Thank you so much for the quick reply. Don't know how you found these entries so quick, I am a novice and have spent all day to get to the 1901 census. I obviously need to learn as you say. Thanks once again, I appreciate it. I live in South Africa so only have the Internet. Regards Peter :-) :-)
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alviegal
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3 Aug 2015 20:39 |
You're welcome Peter. Here is the 1891 so William snr has died by now.
It also suggests that the marriage I found for Elizabeth Wainwright is correct as her father is included on this.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hume Street, Merrington, Auckland, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Elizabeth Carbett Head Widow Female 38 1853 - Wordsley, Staffordshire, England Transcription John H Carbett Son Single Male 16 1875 Iron Worker Puddlers Assist Whitworth, Durham, England Transcription Alfred Carbett Son Single Male 14 1877 - Ferry Hill, Durham, England Transcription William Carbett Son - Male 13 1878 Apprentice To Shoemaking Whitworth, Durham, England Transcription Eleanor Carbett Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Pensnett, Staffordshire, England Transcription Letitia Carbett Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Whitworth, Durham, England Transcription Elizabeth Carbett Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Whitworth, Durham, England Transcription Albert Carbett Son - Male 1 1890 - Whitworth, Durham, England Transcription William Wainwright Father Widower Male 76 1815 Retired Puddler Stourbridge, Staffordshire, England
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alviegal
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3 Aug 2015 20:48 |
Possibly William' death.
Northumberland and Durham Burials Transcription
Learn more Print transcription Attach to tree First name(s) WILLIAM Last name CORBITT Birth year 1853 Death year 1890 Age 37 Burial year 1890 Burial day 7 Burial month Dec Parish TUDHOE/HOLY INNOCENTS County Durham Country England Residence Merrington Lane
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3 Aug 2015 20:57 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pearson Street Low Spennymoor, Low Spennymoor, Durham, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Elizabeth Hart Head Widow Female - 58 1853 Wordsley Staffordshire Transcription Alfred Corbett Son Single Male Labourer 34 1877 Ferryhill Durham Transcription Elizabeth Corbett Daughter Single Female - 14 1897 Durham Sedgefield Transcription Albert Corbett Son Single Male Cartman 21 1890 Durham Sedgefield Transcription Albert Corbett Son Single Male Miner 21 1890 Durham Spennymoor (should read Henry Hart 17) Transcription Richard Corbett Son Single Male Tnohoe Colliery 14 1897 Durham Spennymoor ( Should read Richard Hart)
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Peter
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3 Aug 2015 21:15 |
It seems to fit , thank you. However the names Carbett, and Corbitt ?? Could these be mistakes?
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alviegal
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3 Aug 2015 21:32 |
Yes, it has been mistranscribed. The 'o' looks like an 'a' sometimes.
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Peter
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3 Aug 2015 21:36 |
Thank you I have now verified the Elizabeth Corbett & Henry Hart marriage, her second. off to bed thanks so much. Peter :-) :-)
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4 Aug 2015 06:35 |
Although the GRO index doesn't name the spouse pre-1912, and all you can get are the names of the brides and grooms appearing on the same page, like FreeBMD's presentation of their transcription:
Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%) BRAITHWAITE Jonathan Durham 10a 559 Corbett Elizabeth Durham 10a 559 DYKES Margaret Harriet Durham 10a 559 Hart Henry Durham 10a 559
or the same transcription presented in Ancestry's format (see alviegal's post), sometimes a local rego office has its own index online, like the currant Durham office: https://gro.durham.gov.uk/pgPublicSearch.aspx
These local offices store their certs differently from the way the GRO stores its copies, so their reference to the cert must contain extra info (but they don't always tell you their ref - Durham stopped in the last couple of months). However, Durham do include the entry # in their ref, not just the page #, so they can search for all the brides & grooms named on that m.cert. Local indexes do not follow the GRO limits on their index info, so might give the mum's maiden surname pre-1911q3, the date and church of marriage, the age at death pre-1866. It's always worth checking if there's a local index online (even an incomplete one), so check: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
Marriage certificate for: Name: HART, Henry Year: 1892 Other index entries for this marriage: CORBETT, Elizabeth WAINWRIGHT, Elizabeth
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3RL-V1V https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3RL-V1L
Ancestry puts the Corbetts in the Wainwright household.
Civil Parish: Tudhoe County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: 102 Hope St Registration district: Durham Sub registration district: St Oswald ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Piece: 4958 Folio: 34 Page Number: 26
William Wainwright 66 Kings Winford, Staffordshire, England Head W Ironworker Richard Wainwright 23 Kings Winford, Staffordshire, England Son Iron Brakeman Samuel Wainwright 18 Kings Winford, Staffordshire, England Son Ironworker Wm. Corbett 27 Kings Winford, Staffordshire, England Lodger (Head) M Ironworker Elizabeth Corbett 28 Kings Winford, Staffordshire, England Wife M John H. Corbett 6 Tudhoe, Durham, England Son Alfred Corbett 4 Tudhoe, Durham, England Son William Corbett 3 Tudhoe, Durham, England Son Ellen Corbett Kings Winford, Staffordshire, England Daughter
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBZG-1ZM [Tudhoe] William Wainwright Head M 55 Hambleroot, Staffordshire Ellen Wainwright Wife F 53 Stourbridge, Worcestershire Geo Wainwright Son M 15 Wordsley, Staffordshire Richard Wainwright Son M 13 Wordsley, Staffordshire Mary Wainwright Daughter F 10 Wordsley, Staffordshire Samuel Wainwright Son M 8 Wordsley, Staffordshire
Possible Marriages Name: WAINWRIGHT, Isiah Year: 1881 Other index entries for this marriage: KNOWLES, Mary A
Name: WAINWRIGHT, George Year: 1873 Other index entries for this marriage: HANN, Margaret
Name: WAINWRIGHT, Elizabeth Year: 1874 Other index entries for this marriage: CORBETT, William
Name: WAINWRIGHT, William Year: 1879 Other index entries for this marriage: GIBBON, Ann BATES, Ann
Name: WAINWRIGHT, Mary Year: 1880 Other index entries for this marriage: FARMER, Silas
Name: WAINWRIGHT, Richard Year: 1881 Other index entries for this marriage: ANDERSON, Eleanor A
Name: WAINWRIGHT, Samuel Year: 1888 Other index entries for this marriage: WATCHMAN, Elizabeth
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EDIT The remainder of my post asked for 1861 details of the Wainwrights on: Image ref: Class: RG9; Piece: 2069; Folio: 72; Page Number: 40
Chris Ho has now provided this (and more) so I've removed the skimpy 1861 details I originally posted. . Thanks, Chris
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4 Aug 2015 06:54 |
1861 (Find My Past) William Wainwright Head Married Male 45 1816 Puddler Staffordshire, England Ellen Wainwright Wife Married Female 43 1818 - Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England Hannah Wainwright Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1845 - Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Isaac Wainwright Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Wainwright Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Isaiah Wainwright Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Richard Wainwright Son - Male 3 1858 Scholar Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Mary Wainwright Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England Street Belle Vue Parish Kingswinford County Worcestershire Ecclesiastical district Wordsley Registration district Stourbridge Enumeration district 3 Archive reference RG09 Piece number 2069 Folio number 72 Page number 40
Chris :)
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1852
WAINWRIGHT Elizabeth Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/032/301
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1844
WAINWRIGHT Hannah Kingswinford Dudley Register Office KIN/014/26
http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/index.php
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription (Find My Past) (a possible)
First name(s) William Last name Wainwright Marriage year 1833 Marriage date 03 Nov 1833 Marriage place Old Swinford,Worcester,England Spouse's first name(s) Ellen Spouse's last name Bullock Place Old Swinford County Worcestershire
1841 William Wainwright Male 25 1816 (Forgeman) Helen Wainwright Female 25 1816 Worcestershire, England Helen Wainwright Female 4 1837 Worcestershire, England James Wainwright Male 2 1839 Worcestershire, England Letitia Wainwright Female 0 1841 Worcestershire, England Street Heath Parish or township Old Swinford Town Stourbridge County Worcestershire Registration district Stourbridge Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1198 Book number 13 Folio number 23 Page number 3
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4 Aug 2015 11:47 |
Thank you so much Chris and alviegal, this thread has helped me so much.
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4 Aug 2015 20:02 |
I am now struggling to find Henry Hart's death details. In the 1901 census Elizabeth is shown as "wife" but Henry is not listed. Where was he? were they still married. What is the best source of deaths?
Peter
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) ELIZABETH Last name CORBETT Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1892 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ ELIZABETH CORBETT married one of these people JONATHAN BRAITHWAITE,>> HENRY HART<< District DURHAM District number - County Durham Country England Volume 10A Page 559
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alviegal
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4 Aug 2015 20:08 |
Yes, I was looking for Henry Hart but couldn't find anything definite.
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Peter
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4 Aug 2015 20:34 |
I found this, but could not find any link to verify. Henry Hart England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name Henry Hart Event Type Death Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1903 Registration District Auckland County Durham Event Place Auckland, Durham, England Age (available after 1866) 60 Birth Year (Estimated) 1843 Volume 10A Page 111 Line Number 274
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Peter
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4 Aug 2015 20:36 |
Also the 1911 census shows Elizabeth Hart as a widow ?
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Peter
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4 Aug 2015 20:40 |
This puts Henry at the right age when born, and in the right County.
But from here I am out of my depth and experience.
Henry Hart England and Wales Census, 1861 Name Henry Hart County Durham Event Type Census Event Date 1861 Sub-District 2 Gateshead Parish Gateshead Ecclesiastical Parish St Marys Registration District Gateshead Age 18 Gender Male Relationship to Head of Household Son Birthplace Ireland Schedule Type Household
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