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Thanks ArgyllGran, didn't know how to do that!

There is a follow-up to this thread here:-

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1354039?jump=1354039:

Have now read slowly through all this wonderful info!!! xx. The pre & 1881 I had already, but certain pieces are brilliant additions, thanks to ArgyllGran for Walter service record ( had him on board one ship in a census so far) so the extra info is confirmation. The Walter death in Kent is interesting & suppose no real reason why he shouldn't be there as anywhere else after being used to travel
Special thanks also to Rootgatherer & Chris Ho for the breakthrough details on a poss Burial in Twickenham & Death in Bucks, on Fred, although age differs I also had wondered if he'd reduced his age at marriage, the details for name, date & place (ref Twickenham) are otherwise too much of a coincidence to ignore & certainly tie in with the Bucks details &as he appears to be on the railway p'haps that plays a part? So after all the work done for me, will now order death certificates for both & will let you all know if all works out (fingers crossed)

No problem Linda. We are just pleased you are back online now.

Looks like we have found the deaths for the two brothers for you. When you have had time to read all the replies you can let us know what you think.

Hi, everyone, so sorry for lack of responding, computer problems, fixing didn't work , cost me only for it to crash again, so have given up & bought a new one! Getting my head around new system almost as bad as genealogy brick walls!! It appears I have mixed the two brothers I was/ am having problems with!! & yes it was Fred married to Annie whose death I couldn't find! Walter was a enigma too after 1881 but I was trying to concentrate on just 1 at a time & still mucked the post up!!! Thank you thank you thank you to all of you who have posted replies & been waiting for ME! But back up & online now so hopefully all good now. will look at all replies properly & come back with a positive x

PM sent to Linda to let her know there are replies on this thread.

Deceased name Mr Frederick Blundell
Date of Burial 12/02/1895
Gender Male
Age 34 Years
Date of death Unknown
Location Twickenham Cemetery
Section E
Grave B17 class C

(above from below, if relating)

http://www2.richmond.gov.uk/lbrburials/(S(upi2i032ftwgre55dtwkl545))/Search.aspx

Chris :)

I hope Linda comes back soon to let us know her thoughts on what has been found.

Baptism for Frederick George

Name: Frederick George Blundell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Feb 1891
Born: 8 Jan 1891
Father's name: Frederick Blundell occ Fireman
Mother's name: Annie Blundell
Address: 6 Colne Road
Parish or Poor Law Union: Twickenham
Borough: Richmond upon Thames


Baptism for William Blundell

Name: William Blundell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 May 1892
Born: 13 Mar 1892
Father's name: Frederick Blundell occ Fireman
Mother's name: Annie Blundell
Address: 6 Colne Road
Parish or Poor Law Union: Twickenham
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Register Type: Parish Registers
Register Type: Parish Registers

Baptism for Lily

Name: Lily Blundell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Sep 1897
Born: 28 Jul 1897
No Father
Mother's name: Annie Blundell
Address: 7 Knowle Road
Parish or Poor Law Union: Twickenham
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Register Type: Parish Registers

I wonder if Frederick died elsewhere. This is the nearest death registration that I can see that could match the burial that has been found.

Frederick Blundell
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Eton
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 503

I think we have the right man ArgyllGran. Perhaps Linda has just got Walter and Frederick mixed up if it is their parents and siblings that she is researching. Easily done when researching a surname with so many variants :-)

Yes, I agree.
there's certainly no sign of a Frederick Blundell or variation born in 1861 in the right place.

I had seen that Frederick brother of Walter but what was throwing me was that Frederick's age on the 1891 match his age at death. It does look likely though that he may have knocked 10 years off his age because Annie was so much younger.

And that's Frederick in 1881, at the same address as Walter. They're staying with their brother Alan and his wife Ellen M. *****

(1881 posted by Malyon on page 1.)

He's a loco engine fireman with LSW Railway Co

Frederick with Annie in 1891 is a railway engine stoker..


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In 1871 their sister Ellen is staying with brother Alan:

Ellen Blundell
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Ellen Blundell
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Braishfield, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Fisherton Anger
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Alderbury
Sub-registration district: Britford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 230
Piece: 1951
Folio: 72
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Allan Blundell 26
Ellen M Blundell 26
William A Blundell 1
Frederick A Blundell 5 Months
Louisa Kimber 61
Mary W Barrett 63
Ellen Blundell 28

Come to think of it, if Frederick was indeed born 1861, he's unlikely to have been a brother of Walter born 1838

Or DOB is wrong -

There's this one in 1851 ???

Births Jun 1851 (>99%)
BLUNDELL Frederick Romsey 7 193


Aha! Yes - same parents:

Frederick Blundell
in the 1861 England Census

Name: Frederick Blundell
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: 1851
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: Joseph Blundell
Mother's name: Sarah Blundell
Gender: Male
Where born: Braishfield, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Michelmersh
Ecclesiastical parish: Michelmersh
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Romsey
Sub-registration district: Michelmersh
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Piece: 686
Folio: 10
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Blundell 47
Sarah Blundell 42
Ellen Blundell 18
Luther Blundell 14
Mortimer H Blundell 12
Frederick Blundell 10 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Walter with parents in 1851:

Walter Blundale
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Walter Blundale
[Walter Blundell]
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Son (Child)
Father's name: Joseph Blundale
Mother's name: Sarah Blundale
Gender: Male
Where born: Mitchelmarsh, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Timsbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Winchester
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Romsey
Sub-registration district: Romsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 1671
Folio: 225
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Blundale 37
Sarah Blundale 32
Alfred Blundale 14
Walter Blundale 13
Alan Blundale 7
Luther Blundale 4
Infant Blundale 4 Mo
Mary Ann Reaves 60 - nurse, employee

No problem ArgyllGran. :-)

Young Frederick George's birth cert would clear up who his father was:

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Blundell Frederick George Brentford 3a 71

Sorry, rootgatherer - didn't notice you'd already posted the possible death.

Yes, I wondered about Frederick too, but couldn't find him either.

A possible death for Walter in 1884 has been posted.

I think Linda has got mixed up as everything points to Frederick being the father of Frederick Junior and William. Frederick Senior died in 1895 (as posted above) so wouldn't be Lillie's father.

I'm blowed if I can find Frederick b. 1861 on the 1871 or 1881 census but I'm wondering if he was a brother of Walter.

A possibility for his death???

Walter Blundell
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Name: Walter Blundell
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Registration Year: 1884
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Sheppey
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 549