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Nicola

Nicola Report 20 Jul 2015 22:23

Looking to find the family of Ethel Maud Fowke born 1892 Poplar.
Could someone please look up a Maud Fowke in 1901 census, Bethnal Green born 1892 and tell me the other family members names.
Thanks

malyon

malyon Report 20 Jul 2015 22:33


Ethel M Fowke
mentioned in the record of Marsh and Ethel M Fowke
Name: Ethel M Fowke
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1917
Registration District: Shoreditch
County: London
Event Place: Shoreditch, London, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Marsh
Volume: 1C
Page: 85
Line Number: 118

Ethel M Fowke probably married one of the following people
Name: Arthur F Marsh

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Jul 2015 22:36

Her baptism:

London, England, Births and Baptisms
Name: Ethel Maud Fowke
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 31 Jul 1892 - born 16 Jul 1892
Father's name: Frederick Fowke - Fish salesman
Mother's name: Ellen Fowke
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Stephen, Tredegar Road
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Abode: 87 St Stephen's Road

Link to image:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/17125990

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Jul 2015 22:42

Link to image for the 1917 marriage:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/17126045

London, England, Marriages and Banns
Name: Ethel Maud Fowke
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Age: 24
Spouse: Arthur Frederick Marsh
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Jun 1917
Parish: St Augustine, Haggerston
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Fredk Fowke
Spouse Father: Arthur Fredk Marsh

Nicola

Nicola Report 20 Jul 2015 22:44

Thanks, she married Arthur Marsh in 1917. Going to visit my uncle John Marsh tomorrow(son of Ethel and Arthur). It's hard to find anything to talk about but he remembers lots of stuff from years ago, I couldn't find Ethel's parents, so thanks for the info, one last request did she have any siblings?

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Jul 2015 22:46

this one?

William Fowke Head Married Male 33 1868 Fishmonger Holloway, Middlesex, England Transcription
Sarah Fowke Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Leytonstone, Essex, England Transcription
William Fowke Son - Male 10 1891 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Maud Fowke Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Jennie Fowke Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Thomas Fowke Son - Male 6 1895 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Ernest Fowke Son - Male 4 1897 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Ada Fowke Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription
Emily Foxally Sister-In-Law Single Female 23 1878 Fishmonger's Assistant Stretford, Essex, England

Catherine

Catherine Report 20 Jul 2015 22:48

1911 you asked for gives father as William not Frederick but occupation fits?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Jul 2015 22:53

On the 1911 census for the family that Catherine has posted above in 1901, that Maud is shown as EMILY Maud.

Perhaps there were several Fowkes in the fishmonger business? I notice when Ethel Maud married her father was deceased, wonder if mother remarried and recorded under stepfather's name somewhere?

EDIT: Yes, that is a different family, EMILY Maud Fowkes married Alfred Tillett in 1919.

Nicola

Nicola Report 20 Jul 2015 22:57

There a few name variations and I know that nothing is certain. But now a have a few names to throw at him and see if any ring a bell. Thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Jul 2015 23:00

There are these baptisms with the same parent's names as for Ethel Maud:

Name Date Parish or Poor Law Union Borough Parent Names

Alfred Edward Fowke 23 Nov 1884 Camberwell Christ Church Southwark Frederick Fowke, Ellen Fowke

Frederick William Fowke 23 Nov 1884 Camberwell Christ Church Southwark Frederick Fowke, Ellen Fowke

Sarah Ann Fowke 24 Oct 1886 Camberwell Christ Church Southwark Frederick Fowke, Ellen Fowke

William George Fowke 23 Sep 1888 Poplar All Saints Tower Hamlets Frederick Fowke, Ellen Fowke

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 Jul 2015 23:04

This 1891 census matches the baptisms and is same address as that for Ethel Maud:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

St Stephens Road, Bow or Stra?ord Le Bow, Poplar, London, England
Household Members

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Ellen Fowke Wife Married Female 26 1865 Fishmonger Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Frederick Fowke Son ­ Male 7 1884 Scholar Mile End, Middlesex, England
Alfred Fowke Son ­ Male 6 1885 Scholar Rotherhithe, Kent, England
Sarah Ann Fowke Daughter ­ Female 4 1887 Scholar Rotherhithe, Kent, England
William Geo Fowke Son ­ Male 0 1891 ­ Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 21 Jul 2015 04:33

Nicola could this be the 1911 census for your Ethel Maud?

Name: Maud Fowke
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 114 Ford Road, Old Ford, Bow
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: CHOCOLATE MANUF
Registration district: Poplar

Frederick Hartopp 42
Ellen Hartopp 43
Robert Hartopp 16
Charles Hartopp 14
Elsie Hartopp 12
Hilda Hartopp 10
Jessie Hartopp 8
Harry Hartopp 13
George Hartopp 6
Phillis Hartopp 2
Maud Fowke 18

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 21 Jul 2015 04:42

this looks like brother Alfred in 1911

Name: Alfred Fowke
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Poplar
Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 69 Mildmay Grove, Mildmay Park N
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: RESTAURANT COOK CARTER
Registration district: Islington

Alfred Fowke 26
Grace Fowke 24
Grace Fowke 0

Gee

Gee Report 21 Jul 2015 09:59

Looks like Frederick & Ellen didn't marry

Here she is in 1901, single, living on own means


Name:Ellen Lark

Age:35

Estimated birth year:abt 1866

Relation to Head:Boarder

Gender:Female

Birth Place:Yarmouth, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish:St Mary Stratford Bow

Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul

County/Island:London

Registration district:Poplar

Sub-registration district:Bow

ED, institution, or vessel:15

Piece:341
Folio:94
Page Number:41
Household schedule number:268

Household Members:


Frederick Hartop 29
Robert Hartop 6
Charles Hartop 4
Henry Hartop 2
Elsie E Hartop 2
Ellen Lark 35
Frederick Fowke 19
Sarah Fowke 14


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jul 2015 10:40

That is definitely Ethel Maud.........as Maud Fowke on the 1911 census that Joonie posted.

Street address:
114 Ford Road, Old Ford, Bow

Frederick Hartopp Head 1869 42 Married PLATE GLASS SILVERER Middlesex, England
Ellen Hartopp Wife 1868 43 Married County of Surrey
Robert Hartopp Son 1895 16 Single BRUSH MAKER Middlesex
Charles Hartopp Son 1897 14 SCHOOL Middlesex, England
Elsie Hartopp Daughter 1899 12 SCHOOL Middlesex
Hilda Hartopp Daughter 1901 10 SCHOOL Middlesex
Jessie Hartopp Daughter 1903 8 SCHOOL Middlesex
Harry Hartopp Son 1898 13 SCHOOL Middlesex, England
George Hartopp Son 1905 6 SCHOOL Middlesex
Phillis Hartopp Daughter 1909 2 Middlesex
Maud Fowke Boarder 1893 18 Single CHOCOLATE MANUF

(States.......Frederick and Ellen have been married 17 years.......8 children born and living)


Odd because Frederick Hartopp claims to be a Widower in 1901......

(His age is out!)

99 Ford Road

Frederick Hartop in the 1901 England Census
Name:Frederick Hartop
Age:29
Estimated birth year:abt 1872
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Bethnal Green, London, England
Civil Parish:St Mary Stratford Bow
Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul
County/Island:London
Country:England

Frederick Hartop Head 29 1872 Bethnal Green (Widower) Plate Glass Silverer
Robert Hartop Son 6 1895 Old Ford, London
Charles Hartop Son 4 1897 Old Ford, London
Henry Hartop Son 2 1899 Old Ford, London
Elsie E Hartop Daughter 2 1899 Old Ford, London
Ellen Lark Boarder 35 1866 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England (Single) Living on Own Means.
Frederick Fowke Boarder 19 1882 Stepney, London, England
Sarah Fowke Boarder 14 1887 Female Rotherhithe, London

Note that Boarder Ellen Lark was born Yarmouth, Norfolk which is where Frederick Fowke's wife Ellen was born!

So is Ellen Lark the mother of boarders Frederick and Sarah Fowke?

Annoying that it states that wife Ellen Hartopp was born in the County of Surrey on the 1911 census.

I have to go out so will pop back on here later.

Prickles.

Gee

Gee Report 21 Jul 2015 11:31

Frederick & Ellen separated and he went on to marry



Name:Frederick Fowke Fish porter

Estimated birth year:abt 1866

Age:24

Spouse:Emily Fordham

Spouse Age:23

Record Type:Marriage

Event Date:24 Mar 1890

Parish:St Mark, Victoria Park

Borough:Tower Hamlets

Father Name:George Fowke Fish salesman

Spouse Father:Richard Fordham Dock labourer

Register Type:Parish Register
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His baptism



Name:Frederic Fowke

Record Type:Baptism

Baptism Date:4 Jun 1865

Father's name:George Fowke Fish monger

Mother's name:Harriet Fowke

Parish or Poor Law Union:Bethnal Green St Matthias

Borough:Tower Hamlets

Register Type:Parish Registers

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jul 2015 13:44

Frederick with wife Emily in 1891.....

Frederich Fowke in the 1891 England Census

Name:
Frederich Fowke
[Frederick Fowke]
Age:25
Estimated birth year:abt 1866
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Emily Fowke
Gender:Male
Where born:Bethnal Green, London, England
Civil Parish:Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish:St Barnabus
Town:London
County/Island:London
Country:England

Household Members:

Frederich Fowke 25 (Fish Porter)
Emily Fowke 23 Bethnal Green


Frederick Fowke in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name:Frederick Fowke
Registration Year:1865
Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:Bethnal Green
Inferred County:London
Volume:1C
Page:282


Frederick Fowke in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name:Frederick Fowke
Estimated birth year:abt 1865
Registration Year:1893
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death:28
Registration district:Bethnal Green
Inferred County:London
Volume:1c
Page:175

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jul 2015 13:51

Sarah Ann was placed in School in 1886

Sarah Fowke in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911
Name:Sarah Fowke
Age:6
Birth Date:1 Oct 1886
School:Roman Road School
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Admission Date:28 Aug 1893
Parent:Frederick ....87 St Stephens Road <<<<<
Notes:
Roman Road School (0416) opened in 1877. Renamed Roman Primary School and Bow Secondary Girls School in 1951
Reference Number:LCC/EO/DIV05/ROM/AD/002

She was admitted to the workhouse by Brother Frederick in 1913.....

Sarah Ann Fowke in the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
Name:Sarah Ann Fowke
Birth Date:1886
Admission Age:26
Admission Date:1912-1914
Record Type:Admission
Borough:Camden
Parish or Poor Law Union:St Pancras
Place:London, England
Title:St Pancras Workhouse Register, 1912-1914

Sarah Ann Fowke born 1886 Single...Restaurant Bar Hand

Date of admission:27/01/1913

Name and Address of nearest known relative or friend: Brother Frederick ...29 Turin St, Bethnal Green.


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Jul 2015 14:20

Brother Frederick married in 1910......

Frederick W Fowke in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name:Frederick W Fowke
Registration Year:1910
Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district:Bethnal Green
Inferred County:London
Volume:1c
Page:417

Records on Page:
Name: Clara L Cooper


Frederick Fowke in the 1911 England Census
Name:Frederick Fowke
Age in 1911:28
Estimated birth year:abt 1883
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish:Bethnal Green
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street address:
29 Turin Street, Bethnal Green Road, London E
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:PRINTERS PORTER
Registration district:Bethnal Green

Frederick Fowke Head 1883 28 Married PRINTERS PORTER
Clara Fowke Wife 1883 28 Married London
Lottie Cooper Sister 1890 21 FRENCH POLISHERS London
Ada Cooper Sister 1892 19 FRENCH POLISHERS London
Maud Cooper Sister 1895 16 NEEDLE WORKER London
Herbert Cooper Brother 1898 13 Single SCHOOL London
Florrie Cooper Sister 1902 9 Single SCHOOL London
Lily Cooper Sister 1904 7 Single SCHOOL London Frederick George Fowke Son 1911 0 Single London


Frederick William Fowke in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name:Frederick William Fowke
Gender:Male
Birth Date:abt 1884
Marriage Date:1 Oct 1910
Marriage Place:Bethnal Green
Age:31
Document Year:1915
Residence Place:27 Turin St, Bethnal Green <<<<<<<<
Regimental Number:26532
Regiment Name:Army Veterinary Corps
Form Title:Short Service Attestation
Number of Images:18

Family Members:


Name

Relation to Soldier

Frederick William Fowke Self (Head)
Clara Lucy Cooper Spouse
Frederick George Fowke Child


Frederick W Fowke in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Frederick W Fowke
Birth Date:abt 1884
Date of Registration:Jun 1931
Age at Death:47
Registration district:Bethnal Green
Inferred County:London
Volume:1c
Page:93


Clara Lucy Fowke in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Clara Lucy Fowke
Birth Date:14 Jan 1883
Date of Registration:Dec 1976
Age at Death:93
Registration district:Croydon
Inferred County:Surrey
Volume:11
Page:1738


Nicola

Nicola Report 21 Jul 2015 22:58

Wow, thanks everyone, will take awhile to go through all this info.
I am very grateful for all your efforts.