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Nicola
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20 Jul 2015 22:23 |
Looking to find the family of Ethel Maud Fowke born 1892 Poplar. Could someone please look up a Maud Fowke in 1901 census, Bethnal Green born 1892 and tell me the other family members names. Thanks
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malyon
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20 Jul 2015 22:33 |
Ethel M Fowke mentioned in the record of Marsh and Ethel M Fowke Name: Ethel M Fowke Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1917 Registration District: Shoreditch County: London Event Place: Shoreditch, London, England Spouse Name (available after 1911): Marsh Volume: 1C Page: 85 Line Number: 118 Ethel M Fowke probably married one of the following people Name: Arthur F Marsh
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MarieCeleste
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20 Jul 2015 22:36 |
Her baptism:
London, England, Births and Baptisms Name: Ethel Maud Fowke Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 31 Jul 1892 - born 16 Jul 1892 Father's name: Frederick Fowke - Fish salesman Mother's name: Ellen Fowke Parish or Poor Law Union: St Stephen, Tredegar Road Borough: Tower Hamlets Abode: 87 St Stephen's Road
Link to image: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/17125990
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MarieCeleste
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20 Jul 2015 22:42 |
Link to image for the 1917 marriage:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/17126045
London, England, Marriages and Banns Name: Ethel Maud Fowke Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Age: 24 Spouse: Arthur Frederick Marsh Spouse Age: 26 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 10 Jun 1917 Parish: St Augustine, Haggerston Borough: Hackney Father Name: Fredk Fowke Spouse Father: Arthur Fredk Marsh
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Nicola
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20 Jul 2015 22:44 |
Thanks, she married Arthur Marsh in 1917. Going to visit my uncle John Marsh tomorrow(son of Ethel and Arthur). It's hard to find anything to talk about but he remembers lots of stuff from years ago, I couldn't find Ethel's parents, so thanks for the info, one last request did she have any siblings?
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Catherine
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20 Jul 2015 22:46 |
this one?
William Fowke Head Married Male 33 1868 Fishmonger Holloway, Middlesex, England Transcription Sarah Fowke Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Leytonstone, Essex, England Transcription William Fowke Son - Male 10 1891 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Maud Fowke Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Jennie Fowke Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Thomas Fowke Son - Male 6 1895 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Ernest Fowke Son - Male 4 1897 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Ada Fowke Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Transcription Emily Foxally Sister-In-Law Single Female 23 1878 Fishmonger's Assistant Stretford, Essex, England
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Catherine
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20 Jul 2015 22:48 |
1911 you asked for gives father as William not Frederick but occupation fits?
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MarieCeleste
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20 Jul 2015 22:53 |
On the 1911 census for the family that Catherine has posted above in 1901, that Maud is shown as EMILY Maud.
Perhaps there were several Fowkes in the fishmonger business? I notice when Ethel Maud married her father was deceased, wonder if mother remarried and recorded under stepfather's name somewhere?
EDIT: Yes, that is a different family, EMILY Maud Fowkes married Alfred Tillett in 1919.
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Nicola
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20 Jul 2015 22:57 |
There a few name variations and I know that nothing is certain. But now a have a few names to throw at him and see if any ring a bell. Thanks
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MarieCeleste
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20 Jul 2015 23:00 |
There are these baptisms with the same parent's names as for Ethel Maud:
Name Date Parish or Poor Law Union Borough Parent Names Alfred Edward Fowke 23 Nov 1884 Camberwell Christ Church Southwark Frederick Fowke, Ellen Fowke
Frederick William Fowke 23 Nov 1884 Camberwell Christ Church Southwark Frederick Fowke, Ellen Fowke
Sarah Ann Fowke 24 Oct 1886 Camberwell Christ Church Southwark Frederick Fowke, Ellen Fowke
William George Fowke 23 Sep 1888 Poplar All Saints Tower Hamlets Frederick Fowke, Ellen Fowke
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MarieCeleste
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20 Jul 2015 23:04 |
This 1891 census matches the baptisms and is same address as that for Ethel Maud:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St Stephens Road, Bow or Stra?ord Le Bow, Poplar, London, England Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ellen Fowke Wife Married Female 26 1865 Fishmonger Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Frederick Fowke Son Male 7 1884 Scholar Mile End, Middlesex, England Alfred Fowke Son Male 6 1885 Scholar Rotherhithe, Kent, England Sarah Ann Fowke Daughter Female 4 1887 Scholar Rotherhithe, Kent, England William Geo Fowke Son Male 0 1891 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
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JoonieCloonie
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21 Jul 2015 04:33 |
Nicola could this be the 1911 census for your Ethel Maud?
Name: Maud Fowke Age in 1911: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Female Birth Place: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Poplar County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 114 Ford Road, Old Ford, Bow Marital Status: Single Occupation: CHOCOLATE MANUF Registration district: Poplar
Frederick Hartopp 42 Ellen Hartopp 43 Robert Hartopp 16 Charles Hartopp 14 Elsie Hartopp 12 Hilda Hartopp 10 Jessie Hartopp 8 Harry Hartopp 13 George Hartopp 6 Phillis Hartopp 2 Maud Fowke 18
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JoonieCloonie
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21 Jul 2015 04:42 |
this looks like brother Alfred in 1911
Name: Alfred Fowke Age in 1911: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Poplar Civil Parish: Islington County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 69 Mildmay Grove, Mildmay Park N Marital Status: Married Occupation: RESTAURANT COOK CARTER Registration district: Islington
Alfred Fowke 26 Grace Fowke 24 Grace Fowke 0
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Gee
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21 Jul 2015 09:59 |
Looks like Frederick & Ellen didn't marry
Here she is in 1901, single, living on own means
Name:Ellen Lark
Age:35
Estimated birth year:abt 1866
Relation to Head:Boarder
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:St Mary Stratford Bow
Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul
County/Island:London
Registration district:Poplar
Sub-registration district:Bow
ED, institution, or vessel:15
Piece:341 Folio:94 Page Number:41 Household schedule number:268
Household Members:
Frederick Hartop 29 Robert Hartop 6 Charles Hartop 4 Henry Hartop 2 Elsie E Hartop 2 Ellen Lark 35 Frederick Fowke 19 Sarah Fowke 14
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PricklyHolly
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21 Jul 2015 10:40 |
That is definitely Ethel Maud.........as Maud Fowke on the 1911 census that Joonie posted.
Street address: 114 Ford Road, Old Ford, Bow
Frederick Hartopp Head 1869 42 Married PLATE GLASS SILVERER Middlesex, England Ellen Hartopp Wife 1868 43 Married County of Surrey Robert Hartopp Son 1895 16 Single BRUSH MAKER Middlesex Charles Hartopp Son 1897 14 SCHOOL Middlesex, England Elsie Hartopp Daughter 1899 12 SCHOOL Middlesex Hilda Hartopp Daughter 1901 10 SCHOOL Middlesex Jessie Hartopp Daughter 1903 8 SCHOOL Middlesex Harry Hartopp Son 1898 13 SCHOOL Middlesex, England George Hartopp Son 1905 6 SCHOOL Middlesex Phillis Hartopp Daughter 1909 2 Middlesex Maud Fowke Boarder 1893 18 Single CHOCOLATE MANUF
(States.......Frederick and Ellen have been married 17 years.......8 children born and living)
Odd because Frederick Hartopp claims to be a Widower in 1901......
(His age is out!)
99 Ford Road
Frederick Hartop in the 1901 England Census Name:Frederick Hartop Age:29 Estimated birth year:abt 1872 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:Bethnal Green, London, England Civil Parish:St Mary Stratford Bow Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul County/Island:London Country:England
Frederick Hartop Head 29 1872 Bethnal Green (Widower) Plate Glass Silverer Robert Hartop Son 6 1895 Old Ford, London Charles Hartop Son 4 1897 Old Ford, London Henry Hartop Son 2 1899 Old Ford, London Elsie E Hartop Daughter 2 1899 Old Ford, London Ellen Lark Boarder 35 1866 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England (Single) Living on Own Means. Frederick Fowke Boarder 19 1882 Stepney, London, England Sarah Fowke Boarder 14 1887 Female Rotherhithe, London
Note that Boarder Ellen Lark was born Yarmouth, Norfolk which is where Frederick Fowke's wife Ellen was born!
So is Ellen Lark the mother of boarders Frederick and Sarah Fowke?
Annoying that it states that wife Ellen Hartopp was born in the County of Surrey on the 1911 census.
I have to go out so will pop back on here later.
Prickles.
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21 Jul 2015 11:31 |
Frederick & Ellen separated and he went on to marry
Name:Frederick Fowke Fish porter
Estimated birth year:abt 1866
Age:24
Spouse:Emily Fordham
Spouse Age:23
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:24 Mar 1890
Parish:St Mark, Victoria Park
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Father Name:George Fowke Fish salesman
Spouse Father:Richard Fordham Dock labourer
Register Type:Parish Register -----------------------------------------------------
His baptism
Name:Frederic Fowke
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:4 Jun 1865
Father's name:George Fowke Fish monger
Mother's name:Harriet Fowke
Parish or Poor Law Union:Bethnal Green St Matthias
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Register Type:Parish Registers
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PricklyHolly
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21 Jul 2015 13:44 |
Frederick with wife Emily in 1891.....
Frederich Fowke in the 1891 England Census
Name: Frederich Fowke [Frederick Fowke] Age:25 Estimated birth year:abt 1866 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Emily Fowke Gender:Male Where born:Bethnal Green, London, England Civil Parish:Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish:St Barnabus Town:London County/Island:London Country:England
Household Members:
Frederich Fowke 25 (Fish Porter) Emily Fowke 23 Bethnal Green
Frederick Fowke in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name:Frederick Fowke Registration Year:1865 Registration Quarter:Apr-May-Jun Registration district:Bethnal Green Inferred County:London Volume:1C Page:282
Frederick Fowke in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name:Frederick Fowke Estimated birth year:abt 1865 Registration Year:1893 Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death:28 Registration district:Bethnal Green Inferred County:London Volume:1c Page:175
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PricklyHolly
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21 Jul 2015 13:51 |
Sarah Ann was placed in School in 1886
Sarah Fowke in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 Name:Sarah Fowke Age:6 Birth Date:1 Oct 1886 School:Roman Road School Borough:Tower Hamlets Admission Date:28 Aug 1893 Parent:Frederick ....87 St Stephens Road <<<<< Notes: Roman Road School (0416) opened in 1877. Renamed Roman Primary School and Bow Secondary Girls School in 1951 Reference Number:LCC/EO/DIV05/ROM/AD/002
She was admitted to the workhouse by Brother Frederick in 1913.....
Sarah Ann Fowke in the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930 Name:Sarah Ann Fowke Birth Date:1886 Admission Age:26 Admission Date:1912-1914 Record Type:Admission Borough:Camden Parish or Poor Law Union:St Pancras Place:London, England Title:St Pancras Workhouse Register, 1912-1914
Sarah Ann Fowke born 1886 Single...Restaurant Bar Hand
Date of admission:27/01/1913
Name and Address of nearest known relative or friend: Brother Frederick ...29 Turin St, Bethnal Green.
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PricklyHolly
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21 Jul 2015 14:20 |
Brother Frederick married in 1910......
Frederick W Fowke in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name:Frederick W Fowke Registration Year:1910 Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district:Bethnal Green Inferred County:London Volume:1c Page:417
Records on Page: Name: Clara L Cooper
Frederick Fowke in the 1911 England Census Name:Frederick Fowke Age in 1911:28 Estimated birth year:abt 1883 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:London, United Kingdom Civil Parish:Bethnal Green County/Island:London Country:England Street address: 29 Turin Street, Bethnal Green Road, London E Marital Status:Married Occupation:PRINTERS PORTER Registration district:Bethnal Green
Frederick Fowke Head 1883 28 Married PRINTERS PORTER Clara Fowke Wife 1883 28 Married London Lottie Cooper Sister 1890 21 FRENCH POLISHERS London Ada Cooper Sister 1892 19 FRENCH POLISHERS London Maud Cooper Sister 1895 16 NEEDLE WORKER London Herbert Cooper Brother 1898 13 Single SCHOOL London Florrie Cooper Sister 1902 9 Single SCHOOL London Lily Cooper Sister 1904 7 Single SCHOOL London Frederick George Fowke Son 1911 0 Single London
Frederick William Fowke in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Name:Frederick William Fowke Gender:Male Birth Date:abt 1884 Marriage Date:1 Oct 1910 Marriage Place:Bethnal Green Age:31 Document Year:1915 Residence Place:27 Turin St, Bethnal Green <<<<<<<< Regimental Number:26532 Regiment Name:Army Veterinary Corps Form Title:Short Service Attestation Number of Images:18
Family Members:
Name
Relation to Soldier
Frederick William Fowke Self (Head) Clara Lucy Cooper Spouse Frederick George Fowke Child
Frederick W Fowke in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name:Frederick W Fowke Birth Date:abt 1884 Date of Registration:Jun 1931 Age at Death:47 Registration district:Bethnal Green Inferred County:London Volume:1c Page:93
Clara Lucy Fowke in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name:Clara Lucy Fowke Birth Date:14 Jan 1883 Date of Registration:Dec 1976 Age at Death:93 Registration district:Croydon Inferred County:Surrey Volume:11 Page:1738
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Nicola
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21 Jul 2015 22:58 |
Wow, thanks everyone, will take awhile to go through all this info. I am very grateful for all your efforts.
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