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10 Jun 2015 10:16 |
He's thomas robson living in elswick area of newcastle upon tyne in 1906 dob approx 1877. It would appear he left the area and his family prior to 1911. Married to Annie Eliza Robson formerly Conroy 1905.
Annie Eliza has 2 sisters Ada Adelaide Beatrice & Emily M. Ada appears to have been born in India. Why were they there? I'd also love to see birth details for Ada.
Help please Thanks.
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10 Jun 2015 10:18 |
have you looked for his death on FreeBMD
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10 Jun 2015 10:21 |
is this Annie??
First name(s) Annie Eliza Last name Conroy Gender Female Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1881 Baptism date 18 Dec 1881 Residence Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Place - County Northumberland Country England Father's first name(s) Peter Father's last name Conroy Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms
maybe her father was in the Army so stationed in India at some time , or worked for the east India Company have you found him on any census
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10 Jun 2015 10:23 |
That looks like the right baptism with a father Peter Conroy
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First name(s) Annie Eliza Last name Conroy Name note - Age 23 Marriage year 1905 Marriage date 04 Jan 1905 Marriage place St. Paul'S, Elswick, Northumberland, England Father's first name(s) Peter Father's last name Conroy Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's last name Robson Spouse's father's first name(s) Jasper Spouse's father's last name Robson Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Residence Elswick, Northumberland, England Place Elswick County Northumberland Country England
he was younger than you thought First name(s) Thomas Last name Robson Name note - Age 22 Marriage year 1905 Marriage date 04 Jan 1905 Marriage place St. Paul'S, Elswick, Northumberland, England Father's first name(s) Jasper Father's last name Robson Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Annie Eliza Spouse's last name Conroy Spouse's birth year 1882 Spouse's birth date 1882 Spouse's father's first name(s) Peter Spouse's father's last name Conroy Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Residence Elswick, Northumberland, England Place Elswick County Northumberland Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
so born c1883
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10 Jun 2015 10:29 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Croydon Road, Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
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Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Peter Conroy Head Married Male 51 1840 Sewing Machine Agent Ireland Transcription Mary Conroy Wife Married Female 41 1850 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England Transcription Ada A B Conroy Daughter Single Female 15 1876 - East Indies Transcription Annie E Conroy Daughter Single Female 9 1882 - Newcastle Transcription Emily M Conroy Daughter Single Female 18 1873 Milliner Aldershot, Surrey, England Transcription
Yep he was in the Forces! First name(s) ADA A B Last name CONROY Year range 1875 Place RANIKHET Country INDIA Regiment 22nd Foot Record source GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924) Volume 921 Page 35 Record set British nationals armed forces births 1761-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
you can get a cert from the GRO stating it as an overseas births
Note that Emily was reg Aldershot so he was probably in the Forces then
1901 census
14, Kingsley Terrace, Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Peter Conray Head Married Male 62 1839 Agent For Pianos Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Hannah Conray Wife Married Female 52 1849 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Ada A Conray Daughter Single Female 25 1876 - India
Annie E Conray Daughter Single Female 19. 1882 shirt machinist Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland
From FMP correction done for surname which is .Conroy on the sheet
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10 Jun 2015 10:29 |
Name: Ada Adelaide Beatrice Conway Gender: Female Christening Date: 12 Sep 1875 Christening Place: Ranikhet, Bengal, India Birth Date: 17 Aug 1875 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Patrick Conway Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Hannah Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75024-3 System Origin: India-EASy GS Film number: 510849 Reference ID:
Citing this Record: "India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGQ1-SDD : accessed 10 June 2015), Ada Adelaide Beatrice Conway, 12 Sep 1875; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 510,849.
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10 Jun 2015 10:33 |
First name(s) EMILY MARY Last name CONROY Birth year 1872 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District FARNHAM County Surrey Country England Volume 2A Page 92
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10 Jun 2015 10:35 |
British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns- Births & Baptisms Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image Attach to tree First name(s) Ada Adelaide Beatrice Last name Conway Baptism year 1875 Birth year 1875 Place Ranikhet Presidency Bengal Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - Father's first name(s) Patrick Father's last name Conway Baptism date 12 Sep 1875 Birth date 17 Aug 1875 Archive reference N-1-153 Folio 48 Page - Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal Record set British India Office births & baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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10 Jun 2015 10:36 |
What was Thomas occupation .there are several on the travel records that could fit
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10 Jun 2015 10:38 |
Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%) Conroy Ada Adelaide B Newcastle T. 10b 264 Laming Robert Henry Newcastle T 10b 264
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4 Longley Street Newcastle upon Tyne, Westgate, Northumberland, England
Birth Place First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Northumberland Newcastle Robert Henry Laming Head Married Male 38 1873 Salesman Transcription India Bengal Raneekhet Ada Adelaide Beatrice Laming Wife Married Female 34 1877 - Transcription North Newcastle Harold Laming Son - Male 3 1908 - Transcription Yorks Leeds Hannah Conroy Mother In Law Widow Female 62 1849 - Transcription Northed Newcastle Annie Eliza Robson Sister In Law Married Female 29 1882 - Transcription Northed Newcastle Mary Robson Niece - Female 5 1906 School
A further child of the above marriage is on freebmd.........I'll let you find it. More fun!
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10 Jun 2015 10:41 |
she is living with Ada in 1911 their mum is with them too
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4 Longley Street Newcastle upon Tyne, Westgate, Northumberland, England
Birth Place First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Northumberland Newcastle Robert Henry Laming Head Married Male 38 1873 Salesman
India Bengal Raneekhet Ada Adelaide Beatrice Laming Wife Married Female 34 1877 -
North Newcastle Harold Laming Son - Male 3 1908 -
Yorks Leeds Hannah Conroy Mother In Law Widow Female 62 1849 -
Northed Newcastle Annie Eliza Robson Sister In Law Married Female 29 1882 -
Northed Newcastle Mary Robson Niece - Female 5 1906 School Annie married 6 years 2 children born i died
Deaths Mar 1910 Conroy Peter 66 Newcastle T. 10b 63
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10 Jun 2015 10:48 |
Have you found Thomas in censuses prior to 1911?
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10 Jun 2015 10:57 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Breamish Street, All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Jasper Robson Head Married Male 31 1860 Copper Smith Newcastle on Tyne
Elizabeth Robson Wife Married Female 33 1858 - Appleby, Northumberland, England
Thomas Robson Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Newcastle on Tyne
George Robson Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Newcastle on Tyne
Lillian Robson Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Newcastle on Tyne
Peter McPherson Visitor Married Male 32 1859 Civil Engineer Scotland
Isabella McPherson Visitor - Female 32 1859 - Lincolnshire, England
Peter McPherson Visitor - Male 3 1888 - Greenwich, Middlesex, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 8, Breamish Street, All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Jasper Robson Head Married Male 42 1859 Coppersmith Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Elizabeth Robson Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Appleby, Westmorland, England
Thomas Robson Son Single Male 18 1883 Fitter Engine Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
George Robson Son Single Male 17 1884 Boiler Smith Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Jasper Robson Son Single Male 15 1886 Errand Boy Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Lillian Robson Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Mary Robson Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
William Robson Son Single Male 5 1896 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Robert Robson Son - Male 0 1901 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
looks like he is with his parents
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 81 Shortridge Terrace Newcastle on Tyne, Jesmond, Northumberland, England
Birth Place First Name Last Name Relationship Condition Gender Age Year Of Birth Occupation Newcastle on Tyne Jasper Robson Head Married Male 52 1859 Coppersmith
Appleby Westmoreland Elizabeth Robson Wife Married Female 53 1858 -
Newcastle Thomas Robson Son Married Male 28 1883 Engineer Electrical married 7 years which is crossed through >>>>>>>
Newcastle George Robson Son Single Male 27 1884 -
Newcastle Jasper Robson Son Single Male 25 1886 Coppersmith
Newcastle Lillian Robson Daughter Single Female 23 1888 Clerk Post Office
Newcastle Mary Robson Daughter Single Female 19 1892 At Home
Newcastle William Robson Son Single Male 15 1896 Assistant Md College
Newcastle Robert Alexan Robson Son - Male 10 1901 School
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10 Jun 2015 11:07 |
A possibility for the child that died Births Mar 1905 Robson Jasper Newcastle T. 10b 75
Deaths Mar 1905 Robson Jasper 0 Newcastle T 10b 47
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10 Jun 2015 11:08 |
thanks to you all for that amazingly quick response. Lots of very useful info. Interesting that on the British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns- Births & Baptisms Transcription Ada is shown as Conway with parents Patrick & Hannah.
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10 Jun 2015 11:38 |
Marriage for Jasper & Elizabeth:
Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%) DERRY Elizabeth Newcastle T 10b 210 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dowse Fanny Newcastle T. 10b 210 OLIVER George William Newcastle T. 10b ROBSON Jasper Newcastle T. 10b 210 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Possibly Elizabeth in 1861 census:
ece: RG9/3956 Place: Appleby -Westmorland Enumeration District: 4 Civil Parish: St Michaels Bongate Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 51 Page: 7 Schedule: 44 Address: Sands
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks DERRY George Head M M 50 Chelsea Pensioner Northumberland - Berwick On Tweed DERRY Mary Wife M F 45 Chelsea Pensioners Wife Cumberland - Carlisle DERRY Margaret Dau U F 16 Devon - Devonport DERRY George Son U M 11 Scholar Ireland - - DERRY William Son - M 9 Scholar Kent - Woolwich DERRY Robert Son - M 6 Scholar Westmorland - Appleby DERRY Elizabeth Dau - F 4 Scholar Westmorland - Appleby<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth in 1871 census:
Elizabeth Derry England and Wales Census, 1871 Name: Elizabeth Derry Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Female Age: 14 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birthplace: Appleby, Westmorland Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Hartlepool Sub-District: Hartlepool Parish: Hartlepool County: Durham Household Role Gender Age Birthplace George Derry Self M 60 Berwick Upon Tweed Mary Derry Wife F 55 Carlisle, Cumberland William J Derry Son M 19 Woolwich, Kent Robert Derry Son M 16 Appleby, Westmorland Elizabeth Derry Daughter F 14 Appleby, Westmorland<<<<<<<<<<<<<
and in the 1881 census:
Elizabeth Derry England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: Elizabeth Derry Age (Original): 24 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1857 Birthplace: Appleby Relationship to Head of Household: Nce Marital Status: Single Occupation: Barmaid (Inn Serv) Address: 8 Durham St Event Place: Elswick, Northumberland, England Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 5055 / 140 Page Number: 36 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Elizabeth Derry Head F 76 Newcastle On Tyne Berwick On Tweed Elizabeth Ward Nce F 39 S Shields, Durham, England John Ward Nephew M 10 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Andrew Ward Nephew M 9 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Elizabeth Derry Nce F 24 Appleby<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Walter Goss Lodger M 20 Norwich, Norfolk, England
Possible marriage for George and Mary:
Name: George Derry Spouse's Name: Mary Linox Event Date: 04 Apr 1836 Event Place: Saint Mary,Carlisle,Cumberland,England
Possible baptism for Mary Linox:
Name: Mary Linnox Gender: Female Christening Date: 06 Dec 1815 Christening Place: SAINT MARY,CARLISLE,CUMBERLAND,ENGLAND Father's Name: William Linnox Mother's Name: Mary
Possibly Jasper Robson:
Jasper in 1861 census: Piece: RG9/3829 Place: All Saints -Northumberland Enumeration District: 18b Civil Parish: All Saints Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Folio: 64 Page: 12 Schedule: 71 Address: 2 Wall Knoll Bk
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks ROBSON Thos Head M M 42 Cooper Northumberland - Newcastle On Tyne ROBSON Hannah Wife M F 42 Northumberland - Newcastle On Tyne ROBSON Thos N Son U M 20 Engine Smith Northumberland - Newcastle On Tyne ROBSON Hannah Dau U F 14 Scholar Northumberland - Newcastle On Tyne ROBSON Jane Dau - F 12 Scholar Northumberland - Newcastle On Tyne ROBSON Catherine Dau - F 8 Scholar Northumberland - Newcastle On Tyne ROBSON Mary A Dau - F 5 Scholar Northumberland - Newcastle On Tyne ROBSON Jasper Son - M 2 Northumberland - Newcastle On Tyne<<<<<<<<<<
Jasper in 1871 census:
Jasper Robson England and Wales Census, 1871 Name: Jasper Robson Event Type: Census Event Date: 1871 Gender: Male Age: 11 Relationship to Head of Household: Son Birthplace: Newcastle, Northumberland Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-District: Westgate Parish: Elswick County: Northumberland Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Thomas Robson Self M 51 Newcastle, Northumberland Hannah Robson Wife F 52 Newcastle, Northumberland Hannah Robson Daughter F 23 Newcastle, Northumberland Mary Ann Robson Daughter F 14 Newcastle, Northumberland Jasper Robson Son M 11 Newcastle, Northumberland<<<<<<<<<< Christopher Mowbray Son-in-law M 26 Newcastle, Northumberland Jane Mowbray Daughter F 21 Newcastle, Northumberland Catherine Mowbray Granddaughter F 0 Newcastle, Northumberland
Jasper in the 1881 census:
Jasper Robson England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: Jasper Robson Age (Original): 21 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1860 Birthplace: Newcastle, Northumberland, England Relationship to Head of Household: Son Marital Status: Single Occupation: Coppersmith Address: 4 Picton Ter Event Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne All Saints, Northumberland, England Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 5062 / 148 Page Number: 24 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Hannah Robson Head F 63 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Mary Ann Robson Daughter F 25 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Jasper Robson Son M 21 Newcastle, Northumberland, England<<<<<<<< Hannah Shaw Daughter F 33 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Jasper Shaw Son In Law M 29 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Isabella Shaw Grand Daughter F 10 Newcastle, Northumberland, England James Fitzgerald Grand Son M 6 Newcastle, Northumberland, England
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10 Jun 2015 11:59 |
Marriage for Thomas and Hannah???
Name: Thomas Robson Spouse's Name: Hannah Nicholson Event Date: 29 Jun 1840 Event Place: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England Father's Name: Jasper Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas
Looking at this baptism, this looks to be the Thomas N Robson in the 1861 census posted above.
Name: Thomas Nicholson Robson (Note the middle name NICHOLSON) Gender: Male Christening Date: 11 Oct 1840 Christening Place: All Saints', Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England Father's Name: Thomas Robson Mother's Name: Hannah
Possible baptism for Hannah Nicholson:
Name: Hannah Nicholson Gender: Female Christening Date: 07 Dec 1818 Christening Place: All Saints, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England Father's Name: Thomas Nicholson Mother's Name: Jane
Possible baptism for Thomas:
Name: Thomas Robson Gender: Male Christening Date: 04 Jul 1819 Christening Place: GOSFORTH,NORTHUMBERLAND,ENGLAND Father's Name: Jasper Robson Mother's Name: Susan
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10 Jun 2015 12:51 |
If you wish to trace Thomas, you will need to find/give more info about him.
Questions about him were asked in order to try to help you...........
You say he was born c1877.............what leads you to think that?
If you don't have a copy of his marriage cert, it would be advisable to get one............for factual info
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10 Jun 2015 14:42 |
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Marriage details copied from 2nd posting on this thread:
he was younger than you thought
First name(s) Thomas Last name Robson Name note - Age 22 Marriage year 1905 Marriage date 04 Jan 1905 Marriage place St. Paul'S, Elswick, Northumberland, England Father's first name(s) Jasper Father's last name Robson Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Annie Eliza Spouse's last name Conroy Spouse's birth year 1882 Spouse's birth date 1882 Spouse's father's first name(s) Peter Spouse's father's last name Conroy Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Residence Elswick, Northumberland, England Place Elswick County Northumberland Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
so born c1883
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10 Jun 2015 15:04 |
Possible death First name(s) THOMAS Last name ROBSON Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1882 Age 44 Death quarter 2 Death year 1926 District NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE County Northumberland Volume 10B Page 138 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
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