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William or Walter Hooke Taylor b.c.1868 Thornbury

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Gillikins

Gillikins Report 30 Nov 2016 10:25

:-D

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 30 Nov 2016 10:25

:-D

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 12 Jan 2016 13:15

One more request on this Walter Hooke Taylor and wife Amelia Kate Butler Taylor who married one week before the 1891 census, at the Registry Office Bristol.

Amelia's sister lives then as Eva Biddle, married to Thomas M Biddle at 4 Mission (Place? hard to read) ... Bristol RG12/1965. At the top of the page reads "Upper Wells Street continued.

As the marriage cert says they resided at 4 Wells Street, I wonder if there was a mistake and should be admitted Upper Wells Street, Bristol.

Someone already kindly checked 4 Wells Street for me, they are not there.

Can anyone seek by address Upper Wells Street, BRISTOL, 1891, please?? Perhaps there is a chance they were in the next street,... this schedule for Eva is a bit pale.

Civil parish St. Augustine,
Municipal Ward St. Augustine,
Parliamentary borough Bristol West
Ecc D St. Augustine

THANKS

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 18 Sep 2015 11:00

Sorry .. I think that is wrong lead about Harriet..
Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
Greenwood Frederick Bristol 6a 163
Jones Harriet Bristol 6a 163
Her birth most likely Harriet Jones 1866 dec ? Hereford

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 18 Sep 2015 08:31

Thank you so much safc, I was beginning to give up

I don't know how to do that search..
those names are NOT familiar, ... So between 28th March when that address is given at the marriage, and one week later, census night, they had moved.

However, Harriett Greewood or might it be Greenwood, was born in Hereford.
Perhaps she is sister to Thomas Maurice/Morris Biddle, husband of Eva Jane, Amelia's sister.
?????
Many thanks

safc

safc Report 17 Sep 2015 16:31


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wells Street, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Fred Greewood Head Married Male 28 1863 Groom Bristol
Transcription
Harriet Greewood Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Hereford


this is number 4 wells street

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 17 Sep 2015 16:05

I still cannot crack this one .. William Hooke Taylor and Amelia in 1891...aka Walter.
However, I think they must be in Bristol somewhere.

Does anyone know please how to search by address only for Wells Street, Bedminster (?) to see who is living in the street? Perhaps it was hard to read for transcribers.
Can it be done on Genes?

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 15 Sep 2015 14:44

I have received [at long last] the wedding certificate for Amelia Kate Butler Robbins and Walter Hooke Taylor.
His father was rightly,, George deceased.. Miller.. so we have the right family earlier as you have posted on census for Walter or William Hooke Taylor, mother Emma.

Walter's occupation is Draper's Porter. I'm not surprised as this is the same occupation as Amelia's brother Frederick William Robbins. Perhaps that is how they met. Walter gives his exact age at the marriage, and Amelia has just turned 21 in the February. Therefore both accurately know their age.

The marriage date is 28th March 1891. 1891 Census night 5th April... one week later. So where are they in 1891 census records? I've tried everything I can think of, wildcards and some of the free sites. FreeCEN does Bristol 1891 but no result.

The address is 4 Wells Street, Bristol, which I google mapped. It is still there today, and is in the Ashton Gate area, near Grenville Smyth Park.

By the way they both gave the same address for Residence at time of Marriage. The pregnancy for Charles came later.

Any suggestions to try to track down this missing couple?? Missing pages perhaps?


:-S Phew! Someone must have a better thinking head than myself.....

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 6 Jun 2015 20:09

But it is almost sure that He . William/Walter . Died in 1900 and that Elsie died in 1898...though only way to be sure is to buy death Certs.

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 6 Jun 2015 15:33

I have just downloaded a load of Charles Taylor b.c 1892 census reports in the hope of finding them in 1901, as it is certain Charles and Fred survived through 1911.

None seemed to hit the spot except this, which throws more spanners in the works.

Would anyone like to offer opinions? Although ALL the information does not fit, it seems a rather strange coincidence about the names, although I assumed Elsie had died. Common names at the time too.

baptisms again as this ...
Charles Thomas Taylor,
29.6.1894 at Bristol, St. James
parents : William Hook Taylor and Amelia Kate
Elsie Taylor
29.6.1894 at Bristol, St. James
parents : William Hook Taylor and Amelia Kate
Frederick William Taylor
19.8.1898 at Bristol, St. Barnabas
birth date given : 28.11.1878 !!???
parents : William Hook Taylor and Emilia Kate
George Edward Taylor
11.7.1900 at Bristol, St. Paul, Portman Square.
parents: WALTER Hooke Taylor and Amelia Kate BUTLER

Amelia was called Kate at home age 1 and 11.

Census 1901 this ...
4 Chessel street, Ecc.D Ashton Gate, St. Francis, Ward Bedminster ...
William Taylor Head 35, Colliery Banksman ?above, born Yeovil
Kate Taylor wife 33 Easton, Bristol
Charles son 11 Bristol, Som
William son 8 Bristol, Som
Elsie daut 5 Bristol, Som

I was only searching Glocs though, and no George Edward,... and cant see a death that suits, either under George or Edward.


:-S :-S :-S :-S

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 5 Jun 2015 16:39

I'll message it to you in the morning

Jude

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 5 Jun 2015 16:31

Where did you find that, how do I get the photograph please?

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 5 Jun 2015 16:20

Thanks Jude. I came to same conclusion for William's death, and so it may be only Amelia in 1901, but must admit the many Ecclesiastical Districts etc. are confusing.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 5 Jun 2015 07:57

I think this is Charles Thomas

First name(s) CHARLES
Last name Taylor
Age -
Birth year 1892
Birth day 18
Birth month January
Birth place Bristol
Birth county Gloucestershire
Place BRISTOL
Discharge number -
Identity certificate number 479350
Card type CR10
Date range 1918-1921
Series BT350
Piece number -
Record set Merchant Navy Seamen
Category Education & work
Subcategory Merchant navy & maritime
Collections from Great Britain

There's a photograph

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 5 Jun 2015 07:23

THis is William Tadd in 1901 (already widowed)

Name: William Tadd
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lacock, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: Moorfields St Matthew
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2391
Folio: 121
Page Number: 8
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
William Tadd 52
Florence Tadd 28
Herbert Tadd 22
Sarah Tadd 20
Edith Tadd 18
Alice Tadd 13
Charles Tadd 6

But can't see any sign of the Taylors at first glance

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 5 Jun 2015 07:06

On the assumption that William/Walter DID die before Amelia Kate married William Tadd then this narrows down the search

He was (presumably) alive when George Edward was baptised on 11 July 1900

and he was dead by 1903 because she married again....

This is the only W Taylor that fits in the right area

Deaths Sep 1900
Taylor William 31 Bristol 6a 43

The 1901 for AKB, a patient looks promising although she is listed as single and would explain why she (widowed) is not with her children.

Jude

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 4 Jun 2015 20:37


Amelia Kate B Taylor remarried MarQ 1903 in Bristol to William Tadd and was certainly dead by 1911, because I find this second husband is a widower, and is living with Amelia's eldest sister, Eva Jane Biddle, her husband and their one daughter.
Also we find Fred Taylor the son born in 1898 living with William Tadd also at the same address, and is called "son".
Therefore, safc I don't think the Hooker-Taylor ref. quoted is them. Thanks for trying though.

As Amelia was living in Ilfracombe, her place of birth at the age of 11, surely she would know where she was born to admit on Census, unless the husband gave the wrong place of birth on her behalf.

Can't find a positive for William/Walter 1881, yet, so don't know if he KNEW where he was born.





safc

safc Report 4 Jun 2015 12:37

????

Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
Garnett Millicent Mary Droxford 2c 303
Hooker-Taylor William Droxford 2c 303
Taylor William Hooker Droxford 2c 303

safc

safc Report 4 Jun 2015 12:36

????


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pope's Cottage Upham, Upham, Hampshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Hooker - Taylor Head Married Male 48 1863 Kemsing Kent Farmer
Transcription
Millicent Hooker - Taylor Wife Married Female 31 1880 Hants Bps Waltham -
Transcription
William Hooker - Taylor Son - Male 7 1904 Hants Upham -
Transcription
John Hooker - Taylor Son - Male 6 1905 Hants Upham -
Transcription
Katharine Hooker - Taylor Daughter - Female 4 1907 Hants Upham -
Transcription
Ethel Weavil Servant Single Female 19 1892 Hants Bps Waltham General Servant Domestic

safc

safc Report 4 Jun 2015 12:12

????
could this be
amelia kate butler taylor


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

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First name(s) A K B
Last name -
Relationship Patient
Marital status Single
Gender Female
Age 29
Birth year 1872
Occupation Servant (Domestic)
Birth town Bristol
Birth town as transcribed BRISTOL
Birth county Gloucestershire
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Other household member first name(s) -
Other household member last name -
Street -
Town -
Parish Bristol
City -
Country England
County Gloucestershire
Municipal ward Stapleton
Registration district Bristol
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 2397
Folio 163
Page 34
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain