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18 Aug 2019 19:40 |
sorry to of taken so long to come back to you but i am a carer for my husband
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Brenda
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18 Aug 2019 19:38 |
first i must thank you all for all your wonderful help. Sarah was on the 1861 census at the age of 18 . Virtue was assaulted at a young age of 14 when working for Edward Tennent in Norfolk and was sent to london , Tennant went to prison for 2 yrs virtue had a sad life she married William Terry and had a son but her husband died very young and then she got consumption at the age of 21, and she returned to Norfolk to Charlotte and William with her son who died also a few years after with the same illness . Mentioned this because Virtue was Sarah's sister . Not sign of Sarah as witness on Virtue marriiage , certificate di.d Sarah because she was a nurse maid return to the house to look after Virtue have checked but canrt see her any where on the Census with them .Have followed the Palmers , and their son and all on the 1861 census for Sarah who are on there to see if she followed them to no avail . Have checked out the Bone family in the past also to no avail , finding our Sarah is a really hard one its as if she vanished off of the earth will we ever find where she went ? or what happened to her i have been searching for for some years now lets not give up thank you all again
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17 Aug 2019 22:26 |
Rambling's 1869 Bone/Herring marriage
Name: Sarah Herring [Sarah Douglass] Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 21 Oct 1869 Marriage Place: St Barnabas, South Lambeth, Lambeth, England Father: William Douglass Spouse: Frederick Bone Register Type: Parish Register
Image - Bachelor and Widow, both of 26 Riverhall Street. Both he and his Father William Bone are Railway Porters. Her father is William Douglas deceased
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Aug 2019 21:12 |
For that 1869, Sarah, widow, Father, William Douglas (Dead).
Chris :)
Edits (witness for Susan Herring, 1868, Virtue Terry, her Marriage 1866, Newington, not seeing on Ancestry, London, to check, in case Sarah, witness)
(I take it below are Parents?)
Burial County Norfolk Place Thornham Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 764 Burial date 14 Nov 1864 Burial person forename William Burial person surname HERRING Person age 41 Burial person abode Thornham
Burial County Norfolk Place Saham Toney Church name St George Register type Parish Register Register entry number 1581 Burial date 10 Dec 1894 Burial person forename Charlotte Burial person surname HERRING Person age 72 Burial person abode Saham Toney
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Rambling
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17 Aug 2019 21:03 |
Just as a very long shot, not followed it up, but as sister Susan married in Lambeth in 1868 it may be worth looking at this marriage the following year? If only to rule it out.
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%) Bone Frederick Lambeth 1d 416 <<<< CONGDON Richard Lambeth 1d 416 HERRING Sarah Lambeth 1d 416 <<<<< Sainsbury Elizabeth Sarah Lambeth 1d 416
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17 Aug 2019 20:46 |
?? Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%) Broughton Sarah 49 Islington 1b 160
?? Deaths Mar 1922 (>99%) Broughton Robert J 73 Shoreditch 1c 119
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greyghost
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17 Aug 2019 20:45 |
1911 Census For England & Wales 31 Easton ST, St James and St John Clerkenwell, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alfred Thomas Mason Head Married Male 30 1881 Laburer General Holborn London Harriet Jane Mason Wife Married Female 30 1881 Charwoman Clerkenwell London Annie Mason Daughter Single Female 10 1901 School Clerkenwell London Carrie Mason Daughter Single Female 5 1906 School Clerkenwell London Ellen Mason Daughter Single Female 3 1908 School Clerkenwell London Robert Broughton Father Widower Male 60 1851 Picture Frame Maker North Shields
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greyghost
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17 Aug 2019 20:34 |
If this is the same family 1901, they are sadly depleted and all said to be born London!
For George read ?Amos George
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Evelyn Buildings, 33, St Andrew Holborn Above the Bars and St George the Martyr, Holborn, London & Middlesex, England.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Broughton Head Married Male 53 1848 Picture Frame Maker London, Middlesex, England Sarah Broughton Wife Married Female 48 1853 - London, Middlesex, England George Broughton Son Single Male 20 1881 Carman London, Middlesex, England John Broughton Son Single Male 18 1883 Waiter London, Middlesex, England Lucy Broughton Daughter - Female 14 1887 - London, Middlesex, England
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Aug 2019 20:34 |
1861 reference below...(for Sarah 1843)
Chris :)
Thomas Palmer Head Married Male 41 1820 Solicitor And Attorney And Farm 191 Acres 5 Men Thompson, Norfolk, England Ellen Palmer Wife Married Female 34 1827 - Middlesex, England Sarah Herring Servant Unmarried Female 18 1843 Nursemaid Hilborough, Norfolk, England Swaffham Road, Great Dunham, Mitford, Norfolk, England
If below for the 1854 Thornham Baptism posted earlier...
HERRING, SARAH DELPH GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in OF DOCKING Volume 04B Page 323
Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------ Delph Sarah Ann Docking 13 215 Herring William Docking 13 215
(1871, Sarah Herring (20) Cook, Marylebone, born Thornham, Norfolk, possibly her)
1872 Marriage Cert. needed...
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17 Aug 2019 20:25 |
3 baptised together on 11.3 1888 Clerkenwell St John - all c / o Robert James and Sarah Broughton
Margaret Elizabeth and Harriet Jane b 31.7.1880 Amos George, 31.12 1891
of 6 ???? Buildings Father a Carpenter
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greyghost
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17 Aug 2019 20:21 |
There are a number of baptisms showing on Ancestry LMA - such as
Name: Sarah Nancy Broughton Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 2 Mar 1874 Baptism Place: Clerkenwell St James, Islington, England Father: Robert James Broughton Mother: Sarah Broughton Register Type: Parish Registers Save
From image - ? Born 16 Sept 1873 of 65 Red Lion Street Father - a Fancy Cabinet Finisher
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greyghost
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17 Aug 2019 20:17 |
Only other male Broughton, female Herring marriage I'm seeing 1860-1890 is Edward Broughton to Ann Elizabeth Herring 1890 East Retford (Notts)
? so these births would appear to be from the Robert Broughton/Sarah Herring marriage.
https://www.gro.gov.uk
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BROUGHTON, SARAH NANCY HERRING GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 647
BROUGHTON, SUSAN MARTHA HERRING GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 677
BROUGHTON, ROBERT HENRY HERRING GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 712
BROUGHTON, WILLIAM AMOS HERRING GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 718 Occasional Copy: A
BROUGHTON, HARRIET JANE HERRING GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 782
BROUGHTON, MARGARET ELIZABETH HERRING GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 782
BROUGHTON, AMOS GEORGE HERRING GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 798
BROUGHTON, JOHN WILLIAM HERRING GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 687
BROUGHTON, LUCY ALICE HERRING GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 706
BROUGHTON, MARTHA MAUD HERRING GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 720
BROUGHTON, MARGARET HERRING GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 664
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Chris Ho :)
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17 Aug 2019 20:00 |
Could be the Thornham one below...
Chris :)
County Norfolk Place Thornham Church name All Saints Register type Transcript Register entry number 158 Baptism date 18 Jun 1854 Person forename Sarah Person sex ? Father forename William Mother forename Sarah Father surname HERRING Father occupation Labourer
Edits (1878 Marriage?...not seeing on below)
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
1881 (reference, Find My Past) Robert J Broughton Head Married Male 32 1849 Cabinet Finisher Newcastle on Tyne Sarah Broughton Wife Married Female 26 1855 - Thornham, Norfolk, England Sarah N Broughton Daughter Single Female 7 1874 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Robert H Broughton Son Single Male 4 1877 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Harriett J Broughton Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Margaret Broughton Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England House number 6 Street Rawstorne Street Parish Clerkenwell County London, Middlesex
(her age a bit out, for 1843 Sarah)
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Rambling
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17 Aug 2019 19:58 |
Just for reference the grandchildren named on 1881 as posted already, transcribed as Flacon are Flawn
FLAWN, CHARLES FREDERICK HERRING (died ) GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in SAINT SAVIOUR SURREY Volume 01D Page 67 FLAWN, DANIEL WILLIAM HERRING GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in ST GEORGE SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 179
Parents Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
Flawn Daniel Walker Lambeth 1d 537 Herring Susan Lambeth 1d 537
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Brenda
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17 Aug 2019 19:46 |
i have a Robert James Broughton married a Sarah Herring of Thornberry Norfolk Banns put up Sept 22, 1878, but this seems different from the one marriage in 1872 unless there was two Robert James Broughtons married a Sarah Herring The Hearing on this one looks like it is Spelt Hearring it looks like this Robert was b1849 This one has been a task looking for Sarah found all the rest of the family and checked if she went with them no luck and checked the Cemetary when going there to Norfolk on holiday a few years ago to no avail a relative searched for her as well but could not find a death for her in Norfolk. please, any help will be appreciated. Brenda
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Rambling
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17 Aug 2019 19:45 |
Just as I think it may be a mistranscription, not that it helps with a marriage , but I think perhaps the GRO index was not available for the original post date?
HERRING, SARAH BURRAGE GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in OF THE SWAFFHAM UNION Volume 13 Page 267
sister variant on name also
HERRING, VIRTUE BURGE GRO Reference: 1848 M Quarter in THE SWAFFHAM UNION Volume 13 Page 299
HERRING, HARRIET MARIA BURRIDGE GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in OF THE SWAFFHAM UNION Volume 13 Page 317
HERRING, SUSAN BURRAGE GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in OF THE SWAFFHAM UNION Volume 13 Page 305
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ArgyllGran
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17 Aug 2019 18:56 |
New thread started:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1379066
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Mike *
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3 Jun 2015 23:54 |
When you say you have checked out the above, have you seen the 1872 marriage certificate for details of her father? How you know the Sarah Herring marrying Robert Broughton is not yours ?
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Brenda
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3 Jun 2015 17:41 |
Thank you for all your wonderfull help folks but i have already checked all these out i have been looking for Sarah Herring for 5 yrs, to no avail One of the family has looked and said that she did not die in Norfolk. Checked all these marriages but no luck This is a hard one looking for Sarah, Have had all the other inf on the family, already Thanks again folks for all your welcomed help Brenda
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Chris Ho :)
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2 Jun 2015 20:19 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1230357?d=asc
(above relating, but not Burdge/Masters 1859)
Chris :)
County Somerset Place Churchill Church St John the Baptist RegisterNumber 71 MarriageDate 09 Oct 1859 GroomForename William GroomSurname MASTERS GroomAge 46 GroomCondition Widower GroomOccupation Labourer GroomAbode Dolberrow BrideForename Sarah BrideSurname BURDGE BrideAge 34 BrideParish BrideCondition Spinster BrideAbode Dolberrow GroomFatherForename George GroomFatherSurname MASTERS GroomFatherOccupation Labourer BrideFatherForename * BrideFatherSurname BURDGE BrideFatherOccupation Labourer WitnessOneForename George WitnessOneSurname MASTERS
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