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Gillian

Gillian Report 23 May 2015 13:50

hi
i have samuel smith(son) married to elizabeth stainton in 1877 st johns walworth both of their fathers are deceased at the time of marriage
samuel smith (father) and anthony stainton

i am trying to find samuel senior and anthony stainton death/marriage/and birth and who are their wives

hope anybody can help with this and not too much all at once?
regards Gill x :-)

malyon

malyon Report 23 May 2015 13:56


Samuel Smith
mentioned in the record of Samuel Smith and Elizabeth Stainton
Name:
Samuel Smith
Spouse's Name:
Elizabeth Stainton
Event Date:
04 Oct 1877
Event Place:
St. John'S, Walworth, Surrey, England
Father's Name:
Samuel Smith
Spouse's Father's Name:
Anthony Stainton
Marital Status:
Single
Spouse's Marital Status:
Single
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01069-9 , S

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 May 2015 13:58

Hi Gillian

When and where were Samuel and Elizabeth born?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 May 2015 14:02

???

Elizabeth Stainton in the 1861 England Census
Name:Elizabeth Stainton
Age:15
Estimated Birth Year:1846
Relation:Daughter (Child)
Father's name:Anthony Stainton
Gender:Female
Where born:Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:Bethnal Green
County/Island:Middlesex
Country:England
Registration district:Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district:Hackney Road

Household Members:

Anthony Stainton 54 (Widower) Farrier
Anthony Stainton 21
Maty Agnes Stainton 20
Elizabeth Stainton 15

Gee

Gee Report 23 May 2015 14:04

Hi Gill

How old is Samuel (jr) on the certificate and what is his occupation?

Gillian

Gillian Report 23 May 2015 14:05

hi
thanks for update
they seem to like to name father and sons the same name can be rather confusing when trying to search for the right person?
gill x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 May 2015 14:08

Samuel's age......"Full"

Occupation.........Railway Porter.

Address for both.....11 Rowlands Buildings.

Witnesses: David and Mary Gibbs

Gillian

Gillian Report 23 May 2015 14:08

hi gins
it looks like to says full? in the age of both samuel jr and elizabeth stainton marriage cert
i assume that means they are 21years? or what every the age of consent to marry
gill

malyon

malyon Report 23 May 2015 14:08

could this be him in 1971 it is the right area i lived near there

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Samuel Smith
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name:
Samuel Smith
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1871
Gender:
Male
Age:
20
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Birthplace:
Southwark, Surrey
Schedule Type:
Household
Registration District:
Lambeth
Sub-District:
Brixton
Parish:
St Mary Lambeth
County:
London, Surrey
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Samuel Smith Self M 45 Ilford, Essex
Amelia Smith Wife F 41 Southwark, Surrey
Samuel Smith Son M 20 Southwark, Surrey
Amelia Jane Smith Daughter F 19 Newington, Surrey
Alice Smith Daughter F 13 Streatham, Surrey
Edith Annie Smith Daughter F 11 Streatham, Surrey
Amy Smith Daughter F 9 Lambeth, Surrey
Kate Smith Daughter F 7 Lambeth, Surrey
Emily Smith Daughter F 6 Lambeth, Surrey
Jessie Smith Daughter F 4 Lambeth, Surrey
Ada Florence Smith Daughter F 2 Lambeth, Surrey
Sarah Baxter Servant F 41 Huntingdonshire
Ann Maria Bradbrooke Servant F 34 Suffolk
Annie Snow Servant F 22 Finsbury, Middlesex

malyon

malyon Report 23 May 2015 14:12

death for samuel smith could be the father if he died before samuel was married
age about a year difference

Deaths Mar 1875 (>99%)
SMITH Samuel 48 Lambeth 1d 384

malyon

malyon Report 23 May 2015 14:16

samuels birth


Samuel Smith
England Births and Christenings
Name:
Samuel Smith
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
15 Dec 1850
Christening Place:
St. George the Martyr, Southwark, Surrey, England
Birth Date:
11 Sep 1850
Father's Name:
Samuel Smith
Mother's Name:
Amelia
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01978-6 , System

malyon

malyon Report 23 May 2015 14:22

might be parents marriage


Samuel Smith
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name:
Samuel Smith
Event Type:
Marriage
Registration Quarter:
Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year:
1849
Registration District:
Bermondsey
County:
London
Event Place:
Bermondsey, London, England
Volume:
4
Page:
9
Line Number:
4

Samuel Smith probably married one of the following people
Name: Amelia Assender

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 May 2015 14:26

Name: Anthony Stainton
Probate Date: 25 Jun 1869
Death Date: 14 May 1869
Death Place: Essex, England
Registry: Principal Registry

of goldsmith road leyton, vet. surgeon died 14/05/1869,
probate - anthony stainton vet.surgeon of andrew cottage hornsey and archer powys of 38 russell sq gentleman
effects under £300

malyon

malyon Report 23 May 2015 14:28


Amelia Assender
mentioned in the record of Samuel Smith and Amelia Assender
Name:
Samuel Smith
Birth Date:
1828
Age:
21
Spouse's Name:
Amelia Assender
Spouse's Birth Date:
1830
Spouse's Age:
19
Event Date:
16 Aug 1849
Event Place:
Middlesex, England
Spouse's Father's Name:
Joseph James Assender

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 May 2015 14:29

1841
Name: Anthony Stainton
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St Mary Islington East
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 664
Book: 15
Folio: 43
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Anthony Stainton 30
Agnes Stainton 25
Anthony Stainton 1
Mary Stainton 2 Mo

smith and farrier not born in the county

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 May 2015 14:32

Anthony Stainton
Event Type:
Death
Registration Quarter:
Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year:
1869
Registration District:
West Ham
County:
Essex
Event Place:
West Ham, Essex, England
Age (available after 1866):
61
Birth Year (Estimated):
1808
Volume:
4A

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 May 2015 14:38

??
Name:
Anthony Stainton
Spouse's Name:
Agnes Stainton
Event Date:
1838
Event Place:
Kendal, Westmoreland, England
Father's Name:
Thomas Stainton
Spouse's Father's Name:
William Stainton
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M39649-4 , System Origin: England-VR , GS Film number: 1471687 , Reference ID: 2:3LPN326

Name:
Anthony Stainton
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
05 Oct 1806
Christening Place:
TROUTBECK,WESTMORLAND,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
09 Jul 1806
Father's Name:
Thos Stainton
Mother's Name:
Elizth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P01186-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 496615

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 May 2015 14:40

Gillian please can you confirm whether or not your Elizabeth Stainton was born abt 1846 Islington?

Maddie

Maddie Report 23 May 2015 14:46

????????????
Name: Elizabeth Stainton
Registration Year: 1845
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 3
Page: 243

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 23 May 2015 14:48

The Samuel you posted Yvonne with Father Samuel and Mother Amelia is not the correct Samuel

That Samuel married Annie Alden in 1873.

The marriage parish record is on Ancestry.

Father Samuel Smith.......Diamond Merchant.