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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2, Lilly Green, Aston, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Tidcombe Head Married Male 33 1828 Ivory Button Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Caroline Tidcombe Wife Married Female 53 1808 - Worcester, Worcestershire, England
Ada Tidcombe Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Emily Tidcombe Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
John Tidcombe Son - Male 6 1855 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Eliza Tidcombe Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
William Tidcombe Son - Male 0 1861 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Coleshill Street Court, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Titcombe Head Married Male 23 1828 Flat Cutter Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Caroline Titcombe Wife Married Female 23 1828 - Fernhill Heath, Worcestershire, England
Ellen Titcombe Daughter - Female 3 1848 Scholar Aston, Warwickshire, England
Ader Titcombe Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Aston Street Court, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Thomas Filcombe Male 45 1796 - Bone Cutter
Eleanor Filcombe Female 45 1796 -
Ellen Filcombe Female 20 1821 -
William Filcombe Male 14 1827 Warwickshire, England
Sarah Filcombe Bradbury Female 2 1839 Warwickshire, England
Charlotte Heath Female 20 1821 Warwickshire, England

Yes, Jennifer, for my sins Hyde is a family line. My mother's mother was a Hyde. She was born - coincidentally - in Aston Birmingham where William and Ellen married. Her family moved to South Wales in the late 1890s.

I certainly have relatives in Australia after my great great grandfather's brother emigrated (and married bigamously - just like the wife he left behind)!

However, as I have found Hyde is a very very common name :-(

Jude

Jude......we certainly do have some ratbags in our pasts.........my Great Grandfather left my Great grandmother at some point in the late 1890's early 1900 's and I am having a real challenge trying to find him?? I have another thread about him. Henry Arthur LEE. ????

Elsie married in 1920 to William Osmond Butler. From the trade directories it looks as though he was a butcher.

Marriage:
Name: Elsie Titcombe
Spouse : William O Butler
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1920
Registration district: Kings Norton
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 111
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This is them on the electoral register living with Elsie's Mum (Elsie's Dad died in 1938):

1939 40 WOODWELLS ROAD Erdington Washwood Heath
Ellen Titcombe
William Osmond Butler
Elsie Butler
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This is William & Ellen in 1927- before this they were living at 57 Flora Road.

1927 40 WOODWELLS ROAD Erdington Washwood Heath
William Titcombe
Ellen Titcombe
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: William Titcombe
Probate Date: 18 Mar 1938
Death Date: 22 Feb 1938
Death Place: Birmingham, West Midlands, England
Registry: Birmingham, England

of 40 Woodwells Road. died 22nd February, Probate Birmingham 18th March to Ellen Titcombe, widow.
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Ellen died in 1946:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Ellen Titcombe
Probate Date: 8 Oct 1946
Death Date: 5 Jul 1946
Death Place: Birmingham, England
Registry: Birmingham, England

of 40 Woodwells Road, Ward End, Birmingham, widow, died 25th July 1946. Probate Birmingham 8th October to Elsie Butler (wife of William Osmond Butler)

Name: Mr E Titcombe
Gender: Male
Departure Date: 14 May 1910
Port of Departure: Plymouth, England
Destination Port: Wellington, New Zealand
Ship Name: Ruapehu
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Shipping line: New Zealand Shipping Co Ltd
Official Number: 111357
Master: F Forbes

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Name: Ernest Titcombe
Electoral Year: 1911
District: Masterton
Region or Province: Wellington

Occ. butcher


Name: Ernest Titcombe
Electoral Year: 1919
District: Manawatu
Region or Province: Manawatu-
Occ butcher
With Alice Titcombe

With Alice
Name: Ernest Titcombe
Electoral Year: 1928
District: Manawatu
Region or Province: Manawatu-Wanganui
Occ butcher

With Alice
Name: Ernest Titcombe
Electoral Year: 1935
District: Manawatu
Region or Province: Manawatu-Wanganui
Robinson street Foxton

Occ butcher
Same address in 1938

Name: Ernest Titcombe
Electoral Year: 1946
District: Manawatu
Region or Province: Manawatu-Wanganui
With an Elsie Mary spinster
6 Cook Street Foxton
Occ butcher

On his own same address
Name: Ernest Titcombe
Electoral Year: 1949
District: Manawatu
Region or Province: Manawatu-Wanganui
Occ butcher

Are you sure Leonard went to Australia- or is this a different man?

UK, City and County Directories, 1766 - 1946
Name: Leonard Titcombe
Street address: 101 Coventry rdHay Mill Yrdley
Occupation: Fruitr
Publication Title: 1915 Kelly´s Directory of Birmingham
City: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Country: England
Publication Year: 1915
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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Leonard Titcombe
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Sep 1920
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 229
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England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Leonard Titcombe
Probate Date: 20 Jul 1920
Death Date: 26 Jun 1920
Death Place: Birmingham, West Midlands, England
Registry: Birmingham, England

of 327 Green Lane, Small Heath, Birmingham. Motor body finisher died 26th June at the General Hospital. Administration Birmingham to Sarah Ann Titcombe, widow

it was Ernest who went to New Zealand :-)

Australia was what we always thought only because their daughter died there. Everything else fits though i.e. Leonard Titcombe born 1884 married to Sarah Anne Banks and died in 1920. Sarah Anne came to NZ at some stage and lived in Foxton. They had a daughter Connie who was born 1913 in the UK and died in Australia in 1935.
Thank you so much Gritty??

If Sarah Ann went to Australia or New Zealand it must have been after Connie's death- Connie died in Solihull (near Birmingham UK) in 1935 (not Australia):

Birth:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Constance E Titcombe
Mother's Maiden Name: Banks
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 451
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Death:
Name: Constance E Titcombe
Birth Date: abt 1913
Date of Registration: Sep 1935
Age at Death: 22
Registration district: Solihull
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 708
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National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Constance Elsie Titcombe
Probate Date: 23 Oct 1936
Death Date: 30 Aug 1935
Death Place: Warwickshire, England
Registry: Birmingham, England

of The Wood Tile House, Green Lane, Bentley Heath, Knowle. Spinster, died 30th August. Administration Birmingham to Sarah Ann Titcombe widow.
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Sarah Ann Titcombe is on the Birmingham electoral register until 1945 (Living at 350 Shaftmoor Lane).

Sarah was living at 327 Green Lane, Small Heath until 1925, she then moved to 373/375 Bordesley Green, Small Heath and lived there until 1935. She then moved to 350 Shaftmoor Lane- I don't see her listed on the Birmingham electoral register after 1945.

Gritty........you have sourced so much information for me I am so grateful.
Things we were told actually weren't correct. We were always under the impression that Connie died in Sydney, Australia. She was either a pianist or singer and died suddenly.
As you say Sarah or Aunty Annie as we knew her came to NZ after Connie died. She lived opposite her sister in law Alison aka as Alice and Ernest Titcombe in Foxton. I knew her from the early 1960's until she died in 1981
????

Jude.......after more research I have been in contact with the owner of the tree on ancestry......a cousin of my husband and between us we have found some of the ancestors on her tree dont actually match. Her ones were from somewhere else not the Birmingham area. Got that little bit sorted thanks to all of you on here. :-)

I am 100% sure we have the right family up to Willam TITCOMBE b1860- d1938 who married Ellen OSBORN b1861- d1946, in December 1881. Their children were, William 1884-1885, Leonard 1885-1920, Ernest 1886-1957 and Elsie 1892-1993 ? .Elsie married a William Butler.

From there, I think Williams parents were William TITCOMBE b1827- d1885 who married Caroline HUFNELL b1828- d1883, in 1846.

These were possibly William Jnr siblings; Ellen 1848, Ada Jane 1850, Emily 1853, John 1856, Eliza 1858, then William 1860, Prudence 1863, James 1869 and Clara 1874. I am not 100% sure of these being all from the same family.

This then leads me to William Snr b 1827 being the son of Thomas TITCOMBE b 1796- d 1849 who married Eleanor ? They also had a possible daughter Emma b1825 -d1827 aged 2yrs.
As far as I am aware all relatives were from the Birmingham area.

Can anyone help me to verify these names etc.

Many thanks
Jenny :-)

Bumping because I did an edit :-)

Bumping :-)

Hi Jennifer, did you buy the marriage certificate for William and Ellen? This will confirm father's name.

No Gritty, I haven't. I am unsure how to do this. I have bought printouts here in NZ but have not done so for the UK. Can you point me in the right direction please. :-)

Ooops....It looks like I order from GRO. Will try to do this??

Related - http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1352357?jump=1352357

Prudence Titcomb
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name: Prudence Titcomb
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 8
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Birmingham, Warwickshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Aston
Sub-District: Duddeston
Parish: Aston
County: Warwickshire
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Titcomb Head M 42 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Caroline Titcomb Wife F 42 Worcester, Worcestershire
Ada J Titcomb Daughter F 20 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Emily Titcomb Daughter F 18 Birmingham, Warwickshire
John Titcomb Son M 15 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Eliza Titcomb Daughter F 12 Birmingham, Warwickshire
William Titcomb Son M 10 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Prudence Titcomb Daughter F 8 Birmingham, Warwickshire
James Titcomb Son M 1 Birmingham, Warwickshire

Thomas Titcome
mentioned in the record of Thomas Titcome and Elenor Kent
Name: Thomas Titcome
Spouse's Name: Elenor Kent
Event Date: may 1812
Event Place: Weston Under Lizard, Stafford, England

Name: Emma Titcomb
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 10 Jun 1827
Burial Place: St. Marys, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Age: 2
Birth Date: 1825
Father's Name: Thomas Titcomb
Mother's Name: Eleanor Titcomb