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Holland

Holland Report 17 May 2015 16:12

Hi im looking for My Grandfathers Family.His name was Kyran Holland born in 1904,Dillon Street Clonmel.His parents were Philip Holland born 1879c and Elizabeth(nee O Sullivan born in 1881.Siblins were Mary Bidget Holland,Anne Christina Holland,Patrick Joesph Holland and Josephine Holland?1910.Can any one help please.One of the Sisters became a Nun in I believe a closed order.
Many thanks.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 May 2015 16:35

Please delete your duplicate posting, to avoid duplicate research:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1352050?jump=1352050

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 May 2015 16:38

Kyran Holland

in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Kyran Holland
Birth Date: 22 Jun 1904
Date of Registration: Dec 1975
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Bideford
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 21
Page: 0837


What is it you want to know? Are you trying to find where they are now, if still alive?
Well, no, they're not likely to be - but their descendants?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 May 2015 16:43

[EDIT: No this is the wrong one. Your Anne was alive in 1911.

]???

Annie Christina Holland
in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Search for Annie Christina Holland in the UK Census Collection
Name: Annie Christina Holland
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Registration Year: 1904
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 May 2015 16:46

Mary Bridget Holland

in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1911
Name: Mary Bridget Holland
Gender: Female
Age: 9
Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter (Child)
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street: Davis Road
District: Clonmel East Urban
County: Tipperary
Household Members:
Name Age
P Holland
Mary Bridget Holland 9
Kyran Holland 7
Anne Christina Holland 5
Patrick Joseph Holland 3
Josephine Holland
Elizabeth Holland 30

malyon

malyon Report 17 May 2015 16:46


Kieran Holland
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes
Name:
Kieran Holland
Event Type:
Birth
Event Date:
Jul - Sep 1904
Event Place:
Clonmel, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year:
Jul - Sep 1904
Registration District:
Clonmel
Volume Number:
4
Page Number:
454

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 May 2015 16:47

Sorry -
just noticed your other posting gave dates of birth, so I'll copy it here:

Hi im looking for My Grandfathers Family.His name was Kyran Holland born in 1904,Dillon Street Clonmel.His parents were Philip Holland born 1879c and Elizabeth(nee O Sullivan born in 1881.Siblins were Mary Bidget Holland bonn1902 and died in 1933,Anne Christina Holland 1906,Patrick Joesph Holland 1908and Josephine Holland?1910.Can any one help please.One of the Sisters became a Nun in I believe a closed order.
Many thanks.

malyon

malyon Report 17 May 2015 16:48

is this his marriage

Kyran Holland
mentioned in the record of Simons and Kyran Holland
Name:
Kyran Holland
Event Type:
Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter:
Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year:
1927
Registration District:
Bromley
County:
Kent
Event Place:
Bromley, Kent, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Simons
Volume:
2A
Page:
1719
Line Number:
54

Kyran Holland probably married one of the following people
Name: Rosina Simons

malyon

malyon Report 17 May 2015 16:52

could he have married again


Kyran Holland
mentioned in the record of Shute and Kyran Holland
Name:
Kyran Holland
Event Type:
Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter:
Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year:
1936
Registration District:
Barnstaple
County:
Devon
Event Place:
Barnstaple, Devon, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911):
Shute
Volume:
5B
Page:
1194
Line Number:
59

Kyran Holland probably married one of the following people
Name: Annie Shute

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 May 2015 21:43

This is the family 1911 Census....Phillip is stationed in the Royal Irish Regt. Barracks Davis Rd .Elizabeth is living with family in one of the Barracks Houses. All the children were born Co.Tipp. but there is one who died she states she had 6 children only 5 living.

Residents of a house 1.26 in Davis Road (Clonmel East Urban, Tipperary)

Holland P - - Head of Family - - - - - - - - - -(Listed on Form H)
Holland Elizabeth 30 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Limerick - Read and write - Married - 13 6 5
Holland Mary Bridget 9
Holland Kyran 7
Holland Anne Christina 5
Holland Patrick Joseph 3
Holland Josephine 6mths

Form H is Barrack Returns and the Personnel are listed under Initials only.
There is only 1 PH married and of the approx. age 35yrs. it states he was a Kildare Man.The returns were for the 3rd Reserve Battalion

Elizabeth O'Sullivan/Sullivan married Philip Holland Limerick 1898 Marriage Registered July-Sept Quarter .Vol 5 page 211 (familysearch.org)

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 17 May 2015 22:50

Movements of the 3rd Reserve Battalion after 1911...


3rd (Reserve) Battalion
04.08.1914 Stationed at Clonmel and the moved to Dublin.
Sept 1916 Moved to Templemore Co. Tipperary.
End o f 1917 Moved back to Dublin.
April 1918 Moved to England as part of the Irish Reserve Brigade at Larkhill.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 May 2015 11:04

Phillip Holland
in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

Name: Phillip Holland
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1872
Birth Place: Galmoyle, Kilkenny
Enlistment Age: 19
Marriage Date: 4 Aug 1898
Marriage Place: Limerick
Document Year: 1891
Regimental Number: 3816
Regiment Name: Royal Irish Regiment
Number of Images: 7
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Other Records: Search for 'Phillip Holland' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Phillip Holland Self (Head)
Elizabeth Osullivan Spouse
Mary Bridget Holland Child
Kieran Holland Child
Anne Christiana Holland Child
Patrick Joseph Holland Child
Josephine Holland Child

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 May 2015 11:07

Philip Holland

in the Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958

Name: Philip Holland
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1898
Registration district: Limerick
Volume: 5
Page Number: 211
FHL Film Number: 101259
Records on Page:
Name
Elizabeth Sullivan <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mary Behan
John Doherty
Margaret Doherty
Philip Holland <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Timothy Moloney
Mary Ellen Boland

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 18 May 2015 11:50

Thanks for the above ArgyllGran...given the birthdate then this one will be more likelyto be Philip....

P.H. Davis Road Clonmel East Urban Tipperary 39 M Kilkenny Carpenter other details re Regt etc remain the same.

Holland

Holland Report 19 May 2015 20:43

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to help me with this search,its very much appreciated.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 19 May 2015 20:52

Does the details of an Army Service for Philip give you an indication if we are looking at the correct family....?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 May 2015 22:31

Further detail from the Service Record:

He was a carpenter.
Born in Galmoyle, Johnstown, Kilkenny.
Joined up in Clonmel, 31/01/1891.
5ft, 9.5ins; fresh complexion; grey eyes; light brown hair.
Roman Catholic.

Most of the details of his service are unreadable, but:

21 Feb 1898 - permitted to extend (something) to complete (something).
Permitted to re-engage to complete 21 years.
Appointed Lance Corporal 11/11/1903.
24 Oct 1911 - Permitted to continue in service beyond 21 years.
30 Sept 1912 - Discharged, having claimed discharge after 3 months notice.

Educated at Royal Military Asylum and Royal Hibernian Military School.
Qualified Sanitary Police Duties, Clonmel.
Served in South African Campaign 1899 - 190?
Awarded Queens South Africa Medal with Clasps, for Wittebergen, Belfast, Cape Colony & Sth Africa 1901.
Silver medal for long service and good conduct with gratuity.
appended to (something).
NOK: Father - Kyran. Mother - Bridget.
Brothers - Kyran (older), William (younger)
Sisters - Mary (?), Anne, Margaret, Catherine, Elizabeth
Wife Elizabeth with husband.

Marriage: Elizabeth Osullivan, spinster; Limerick 4th Aug 1898; married by Revd M O'Donnell; witnesses - Peter Hayes and Ellen Mullane.

Children:
Mary Bridget, born 28/11/1902, clonmel; baptised 30/11/1902 Clonmel.
Kieran, born 22/06/04 Clonmel; baptised 26/06/04 Clonmel.
Anne Christiana, born 15/06/06 Clonmel; baptised 17/06/06 Clonmel.
Patrick Joseph, born 25/03/08 Clonmel; baptised 29/03/08 Clonmel.
Josephine, born 19/03/11 Clonmel; baptised 26/03/11 Clonmel

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 May 2015 22:36

http://www.angloboerwar.com/medals-and-awards/british/1875-queens-south-africa-medal

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 May 2015 22:39

??? Just possibly ????

Birth a year out ?:

Josephine Holland

in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Josephine Holland
Birth Date: 19 Mar 1910
Date of Registration: Dec 1991
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Newbury
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 19
Page: 189

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 May 2015 22:46

Philip's parents and sister:

Kyran Holland

in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Kyran Holland
Gender: Male
Age: 66
Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Johnstown
District: Johnstown
County: Kilkenny
Household Members:
Name Age
Kyran Holland 66
Bridget Holland 67
Bridget Holland 19