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Hello, the simple way is to go on Birth search and enter fathers surname only, then in the space for optional words enter mothers maiden name. That will give you a base to work from.

Hope this helps.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1351843

Thank you :-)

Frances,

Just to reiterate, don't ever click on buy for certificates on genealogy sites - Ancestry charge £22+ - GRO £9.25

Rose has given you the link, you will need to register and create an account.

Do read the threads, as Jacqueline has advised, as they are very useful. We are all enthusiastic amateurs who like to share our "acquired expertise" and access...and we all compete and applaud at the same time, if that makes sense!

Reading the threads will help us to help you :-)

Good luck on your new journey - remember we are all here and will help when we can

Jude

Thanks Jacqueline

No-one can access your tree unless you have PM contact, and give permission

You might find it useful to read the threads at the top of the boards which give tips and advice

For a newcomer to this fascinating hobby, it's a good idea to do so

I'm totally confused now hehe, can you access my tree?

Frances, in that useful post of mgnv's, one point I would highlight is NEVER to order a certificate via Ancestry or other sites which charge more than the GRO's cost of £9.25

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

FreeBMD aims to transcribe the printed GRO index which finished in 1983 - it was computerized thereafter.
The project is ongoing - here's some status:
Incomplete quarters thru 1959 as of 15/04/15
Births Sep 1940 (64%) **************
Births Dec 1943 (78%) **************
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Marriages Dec 1952 (70%) *******************
A quarter of the Bs & Ms are incomplete in the 1960s, and there are no essentially complete quarters for anything post-1975q1.
The database is updated abt every 4w, with usually a couple more essentially completed quarters for some event.

One can buy BMD certs thru the GRO, or thru the local office that now holds the original rego books for Bs & Ds (& rego office Ms or non-conformist marrs that the registrar attended - they hold a copy of the remaining marrs conducted in their district - the GRO only has transcriptions of the local office rego's).
One can also buy m.certs from the church if they're in the current rego - old rego's are deposited in some archive - usually the county records office.
These deposited records may be online, along with baptismal and burial registers - most of the Greater London archive is online with Ancestry (and Westminster is with FMP/GR).

I suppose your birth falls into one of the untranscribed holes in FreeBMD.
Anyone can search on Ancestry for free - however, without a sub, you're limited in what details you can see.
You can search for births post-1915 via:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8782
Although you're normally limited in what you can see, Ancestry will also place an order for your b.cert with the GRO (it will more than double the cost to you, however).
If you click on the shopping basket, you can see the details of order they will place - details like rego district, quarter of registration, vol & page #s - after noting these, you can (& should) back out.


In the preceeding post, PricklyHolly posted an 1851 census for George and Ellen Hopkins, along with a cherry-picked FreeBMD marr hit.
But how do we know she picked corretly - might there be another 10p piece in the Xmas pudd.
[Yes, I know I'm mixing metaphors, and I'm not sure whether the 10p piece is appropriate - in my day, it was silver thrupny bits (experience that's hardly relevant).]
Anyways, clicking on the page # brings up the whole set whose index entry points to p 485, incl Eleanor Goodwin - might she be our Ellen?

Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)
Baker Thomas N Aylesford 5 485
Burridge Eliza Augusta N Aylesford 5 485
Davies Thomas N Aylesford 5 485
Ford Ellen N Aylesford 5 485
Goodwin Eleanor N Aylesford 5 485
Hopkins George N Aylesford 5 485
Sheppard Frederick Charles N Aylesford 5 485
Turner Mary Ann N Aylesford 5 485

Some local rego offices have the local BMD indexes at least partly online - see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
Of interest here is Kent Registration Services:
http://webapps.kent.gov.uk/KCC.ROIS.Web.Sites.Public/Pages/Default.aspx
(Please note: Kent does not include the Medway Towns (Chatham, Gillingham, Rochester and Strood) or the London Boroughs of Bromley and Greenwich who hold their own records for births, deaths and marriages going back to 1 July 1837).

If we look up the marrs for our Geo & for Ellen Ford, we get:

Name HOPKINS, George
Year Of Marriage 1846
Entry Number 426
Register C33/1

Name FORD, Ellen
Year Of Marriage 1846
Entry Number 426
Register C33/1

Not the most convenient site, but note they have the same Entry #, so they're both on the same m.cert, and PH's guess was right. Here's the other couples:

Name SHEPPARD, Frederick, C Entry Number 427
Name BURRIDGE, Eliza, A Entry Number 427

Name BAKER, Thomas Entry Number 428
Name GOODWIN, Eleanor Entry Number 428

Name DAVIES, Thomas Entry Number 429
Name TURNER, Mary, A Entry Number 429

The Kent site unfortunately doesn't say what church is coded by C33 - C prefixes usually indicate C of E churches - pre 1899, there's not a deal of choice - only CofE, jews, quakers and the registrar were authorized to keep official marr rego's.
The /1 indicates it's the church's first rego which will probably fill up in 1847

Your all so organised, maybe that'll be me one day :-S I definitely need to excess to some of the census but all the ones I go to are asking for credits, I think I need to spend a couple of weeks in the library instead. Its just that I'm more interested in what the people did for a living etc

Re pros and cons of various sites...

I have standard membership on here - just so I can chat to you guys on the forums :-)

I have Ancestry Worldwide

I have FMP Britain...courtesy of my Times memberships at the mo - have to decide in July whether to speculate £99...

I find FMP really good for Glamorgan and Monmouthshire BMD and newspapers.

And I find Ancestry really good for Birmingham, Warwickshire London and Yorkshire...

So it depends what you are looking for. And really, if someone asks nicely enough and says thank you afterwards, we'll all look something up for you :-D :-D :-D

Jude

wow! thanks for all that :-) :-) :-)

Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)
Ford Ellen N Aylesford 5 485
Hopkins George N Aylesford 5 485

George Hopkins in the 1851 England Census
Name:George Hopkins
Age:24
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1827
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Ellen Hopkins
Gender:Male
Where born:Northfleet
Civil Parish:Northfleet
County/Island:Kent
Country:England
Registration district:North Aylesford
Sub-registration district:Northfleet

Household Members:

George Hopkins 24
Ellen Hopkins 25
Jane Hopkins 4
George Hopkins 2
Ellen Hopkins 1 Mo

Possibly Jane Sophia in 1851

??

Jane S Hopkin in the 1851 England Census
Name:Jane S Hopkin
Age:14
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1837
Relation:Niece
Gender:Female
Where born:northfleet, Kent, England
Civil Parish:Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish:St Philip
Town:Mile End and Old Town
County/Island:Middlesex
Country:England
Registration district:Stepney
Sub-registration district:Mile End Old Town Upper

Household Members:

Thomas Smith 54 (Butcher) Leicster
Jane Smith 53 Gravesend Kent
Jane S Hopkin 14

As Jane's mother's maiden name was Brown.........I am wondering about this POSSIBLE marriage for Thomas and Jane.

???

Thomas Smith in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Thomas Smith
Gender:Male
Marital Status:Single
Marriage Date:25 Dec 1824
Marriage Place:St. Botolph Aldgate, London, England
Spouse:Jane Brown
FHL Film Number:380125
Reference ID:p229 302

All the information I found is from Ancestry.

Prickles. x

Siblings...

John Hopkins in the England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name:John Hopkins
Gender:Male
Christening Date:30 Sep 1832
Christening Place:Northfleet, Kent, England
Father's name:Jacob Hopkins
Mother's name:Sarah


George Thomas Hopkins in the England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name:George Thomas Hopkins
Gender:Male
Christening Date:15 May 1827
Christening Place:Northfleet, Kent, England
Father's name:Jacob Hopkins
Mother's name:Sarah


(Could Jane Sophia be the Ann that appears on the 1841 census?)

Jane Sophia Hopkins in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:Jane Sophia Hopkins
Gender:Female
Baptism Date:26 Mar 1837
Baptism Place:Northfleet, Kent, England
Father: Jacob Hopkins
Mother: Sarah


Jane Sophia Hopkins in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Jane Sophia Hopkins
Gender:Female
Marital Status:Single
Age:20
Birth Date:1837
Marriage Date:11 Jun 1857
Marriage Place:St. Mary'S Church, Chatham, Kent, England
Father: Jacob Hopkins
Spouse: Joseph Ridley
FHL Film Number:1473656
Reference ID:p 248

Although it states on the marriage record that James's father is "James" Jacob Hopkins (Brickmaker), this appears to be his baptism record.


James Jacob Hopkins in the England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name:James Jacob Hopkins
Gender:Male
Christening Date:12 Apr 1835
Christening Place:Northfleet, Kent, England
Father's name:Jacob Hopkins
Mother's name:Sarah


Possibly the family in 1841.......The image is quite faint..

Jacobo Hopkins in the 1841 England Census
Name:Jacobo Hopkins
Age:40
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1801
Gender:Male
Where born:Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:St John The Evangelist
Hundred:Westminster
County/Island:Middlesex
Country:England
Registration district:Westminster
Sub-registration district:St John the Evangelist

Household Members:

Jacobo Hopkins 40 (Brickmaker)
Sarah Hopkins 35
Geo Hopkins 15
Thos Hopkins 11
James Hopkins 6 <<<<<<<
Ann Hopkins 2

Parents marriage.......

Jacob Hopkins in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Jacob Hopkins
Gender:Male
Marriage Date:5 Dec 1824
Marriage Place:Northfleet, Kent, England
Spouse: Sarah Brown
FHL Film Number:1469436 IT 3

That's fantastic, thank you so much :-)

Baptism for Mary Jane Pettit


Name:Mary Jane Pettit
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:8 Mar 1840
Father's name:William Pettit
Mother's name:Harriet Pettit
Parish or Poor Law Union:Shepperton
Register Type:Parish Registers


Born 14 Feb 1840


and her parents marriage


Name:William Pettit
Spouse: Harriet Goodeve
Record Type:Marriage
Event Date:10 Oct 1837
Parish:Shepperton
County:Surrey
Father Name:Edward Pettit
Spouse Father:William Goodeve
Register Type:Parish Register


Andy

That's my great great grandad :-)

and then working forward, Ancestry has the London marriages for some ( at least) of those children, you can also see the images there which will give you added info like the witnesses for example


William James Hopkins in the London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: William James Hopkins
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 23
Spouse: Sarah Stone Stepton
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Feb 1890
Parish: St Mary, Sunbury on Thames
County: Surrey
Father Name: James Jacob Hopkins
Spouse Father: James Stepton
Register Type: Parish Register