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George Herbert Grey Army Service record updated

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Jane

Jane Report 21 Apr 2015 14:22

I know I am asking a lot but is there anyway I can find out when this marriage took place. The marriage was between George Herbert Grey b 1888 and Helen Spencer in 1924 registered in Glanford Brigg. I have George on all the census between 1891 and 1911 but I know nothing about Helen. I was just trying to find out a little bit about her. I have tried freereg but could not find them. they had three children all born in Winterton Lincs so I guess they married somewhere around there.

updated - Please See pg 2 Service record look up please.

The childrens names Joyce Ada Grey b 1926
Georgina Grey b 1930
Janice Grey b 1937

thankyou for your help.

Jane

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2015 14:39

You asked is there any way of knowing when this marriage took place............but then you gave the year of 1924.


Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)
Grey George H Spencer Glanford B. 7a 1693
Spencer Helen Grey Glanford B. 7a 1693

What does b 18 mean?

Jane

Jane Report 21 Apr 2015 14:43

I know but sometimes expert people on here have given more information about marriages. I know you can find out about some marriages on Freereg but this one is not there. I suppose it was just wishful thinking.

thanks for looking

Jane

malyon

malyon Report 21 Apr 2015 14:59

hi
it must mean glanford brigg

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2015 14:59

Ah, i.see you have edited b 18.

Unfortunately, i am not seeing a parish record giving the full details of that marriage.

Jane

Jane Report 21 Apr 2015 15:02

Thanks PricklyHolly it was worth a try. I know there are a lot of very helpful people on here including yourself who have access to a lot of records I don't. I just thought I would give it a go. I think I will have to send for the cert.

Thanks again

Jane

mgnv

mgnv Report 21 Apr 2015 16:46

Here's the local index lookup from:
http://www.northlincs.gov.uk/community-advice-and-support/births-deaths-and-marriages/family-history/how-to-apply-for-birth-marriage-or-death-certificates/

Surname Forename First initial Second initial Maiden name BookNumber EntryNumber
GREY George H C 55.2 97
SPENCER Helen C 55.2 97

A code like C55 looks like a C of E church code to me, so presumably that register's in some local archive by now.
I don't know where the local archive is - maybe Scunthorpe library would know.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Apr 2015 16:55

Name: George Herbert Grey
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1970
Registration District: Scunthorpe
County: Lincolnshire
Event Place: Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 25 Aug 1888
Volume: 3B
Page: 901
Line Number: 6

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Apr 2015 16:56

Name: George H Grey
Event Type: Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1924
Registration District: Glanford Brigg
County: Lincolnshire
Event Place: Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Spencer
Volume: 7A
Page: 1693
Line Number: 13


George H Grey probably married one of the following people
Name: Helen Spencer

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Apr 2015 16:57

Name: Joyce A Grey
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1926
Registration District: Glanford Brigg
County: Lincolnshire
Event Place: Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Spencer
Volume: 7A
Page: 1112
Line Number: 54

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Apr 2015 16:58

Name: Georgina Grey
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1930
Registration District: Glanford Brigg
County: Lincolnshire
Event Place: Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Spencer
Volume: 7A
Page: 1104
Line Number: 129

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Apr 2015 16:58

Name: Nancy Grey
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1931
Registration District: Glanford Brigg
County: Lincolnshire
Event Place: Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Spencer
Volume: 7A
Page: 1054
Line Number: 129

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Apr 2015 16:59

Name: Janice Grey
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1938
Registration District: Glanford Brigg
County: Lincolnshire
Event Place: Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Spencer
Volume: 7A
Page: 984
Line Number: 131

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Apr 2015 17:02

Name: Arthur Sanderson
Event Type: Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1946
Registration District: Scunthorpe
County: Lincolnshire
Event Place: Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Grey
Volume: 3B
Page: 982
Line Number: 19


Grey probably married one of the following people
Name: Joyce A Grey

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Apr 2015 17:03

Name: Edwin W Burdass
Event Type: Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1955
Registration District: Scunthorpe
County: Lincolnshire
Event Place: Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Grey
Volume: 3B
Page: 964
Line Number: 65


Grey probably married one of the following people
Name: Nancy Grey

Gerry

Gerry Report 21 Apr 2015 18:05

Hi Jane

There were only two Helen Spencers born in Lincolnshire between 1885 and 1905

SPENCER HELEN 1889 — 1889 England & Wales births 1837-2006 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
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SPENCER HELEN 1899 — 1899 England & Wales births 1837-2006 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England

I think you are going to have to get the marriage cert

Gerry :-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Apr 2015 18:56

??

Helen Grey in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:Helen Grey
Birth Date:30 Nov 1898
Date of Registration:Jun 1978
Age at Death:79
Registration district:Lincoln
Inferred County:Lincolnshire
Volume:7
Page:1821

This would tie in with this birth.........


Births Mar 1899 (>99%)
Spencer Helen Lincoln 7a 481

If she was born 30th Nov 1898.........it is possible that her birth wasn't registered until the first quarter of 1899.

???


Helen Spencer in the 1911 England Census
Name:Helen Spencer
Age in 1911:12
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1899
Relation to Head:Daughter (Child)
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Skellingthorpe
Civil Parish:Winteringham
County/Island:Lincolnshire
Country:England
Street address:Winteringham Doncaster
Registration district:Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district:Winterton

Household Members:

Fred Spencer 40 (Insurance Agent) Tathwell, Lincolnshire
Ada Spencer 36 Burton, Lincolnshire
Ethel Spencer 15
Helen Spencer 12
John James Spencer 8
Fred Spencer 5
Gilbert Henry Spencer 2

(Married 16 years......5 children born and living)


Helen Spencer in the 1901 England Census
Name:Helen Spencer
Age:2
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1899
Relation to Head:Daughter (Child)
Gender:Female
Father:Fred Spencer
Mother:Ada Spencer
Birth Place: Skellingthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Skellingthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: Skellingthorpe St Lawrence
Town: Skellingthorpe
County/Island:Lincolnshire
Country:England
Registration district:Lincoln
Sub-registration district:Lincoln South West

Household Members:

Fred Spencer 30 (Plate Layer on Railway)
Ada Spencer 26
Ethel Spencer 5
Helen Spencer 2


Marriages Dec 1894 (>99%)
Bell Ada Lincoln 7a 1066
Spencer Fred Lincoln 7a 1066


Prickles.





malyon

malyon Report 21 Apr 2015 19:04

Helen Grey
England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Helen Grey
Event Type: Death Registration
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1978
Registration District: Lincoln
County: Lincolnshire
Event Place: Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 30 Nov 1898
Volume: 7
Page: 1821
Line Number: 144

malyon

malyon Report 21 Apr 2015 19:13


Helen Spencer
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name: Helen Spencer
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
County: Lincolnshire
Parish: Winteringham
Sub-District: Winterton
Registration District: Glanford Brigg
Gender: Female
Age: 12
Birthplace: Shellingthorpe, Lincolnshire
Record Type: Household

Jane

Jane Report 22 Apr 2015 06:59

Thank you so much Ann, Yvonne, PricklyHolly, and Gerry

You have given me so much information. What would I do without all your kind help. I will go through it, add it to my records and then send for a couple of certs.

Thanks again for all your help

Jane.