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researching JANE BRUCE

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Oyster

Oyster Report 3 Apr 2015 01:49

The only information I have is that she married Peter Coutts 15th November 1840 in Fraserburgh, Aberdeen, Scotland.
Peter married again in 1852.
Seek Jane's dob and dod, also parents' names.
Thanks in anticipation of good results.
Lynz.

Susan

Susan Report 3 Apr 2015 06:54

Is this the family?

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Name: Peter Coutts
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane Coutts
Gender: Male
Where born: Crothier, Aberdeenre
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration district: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St Andrew
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 13 St Andrew's Square
Occupation: Grocer Viclnalar
ED: 11
Household schedule number: 24
LINE: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_102
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Coutts 46
Jane Coutts 46 >>>>>>>Bn Lassier Shirlingre 1815
Mary Coutts 11 >>>>>>>Bn Perth Perthshire

Oyster

Oyster Report 3 Apr 2015 07:45

YES that is the family ...thanks for your message Susan.

Gee

Gee Report 3 Apr 2015 08:31

Hi

There is this baptism, do you know if she had any siblings?




Name:Jane Bruce

Gender:Female

Baptism Date:10 Feb 1815

Baptism Place:
Saint Nicholas,Aberdeen,Aberdeen,Scotland

Father: George Bruce

Mother: Isabel Mcintosh

FHL Film Number:991137



Name:Jane Bruce

Gender:Female

Marriage Date:15 Nov 1840

Marriage Place:Fraserburgh,Aberdeen,Scotland

Spouse: Peter Coutts

FHL Film Number:993185


Who was Peter's second wife?

Susan

Susan Report 3 Apr 2015 08:35


Gins has already posted the other info I found ,not sure if it was the correct family.

Going out but will have another look later ,if nobody else finds anything in the meantime that is.

Sue :-)

Gee

Gee Report 3 Apr 2015 08:57

I can't work out where 'Lassier Shirlingre' is, as posted on the census above?


This is not too far from where she marriage



Name:Jane Bruce

Gender:Female

Birth Date:13 Feb 1817

Birth Place:Loth,Sutherland,Scotland

Father:
John Bruce

FHL Film Number:990575



Edit: The census that Susan posted is 1861 and has his wife as Jane. If Peter married again in 1851, was his second wife also called Jane?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Apr 2015 09:16

Shirlingre must be Stirlingshire.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Apr 2015 09:18

To find Jane's death, you will need to access Scotland's People website, for which one has to purchase credits.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Apr 2015 09:23

I know this has been posted before, but this shows the year, plus the man's occupation

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Andrews Square, St Andrews, Calton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts Head Married Male 46 1815 Grocer & Victualar Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Jane Coutts Wife Married Female 46 1815 - Stirlingshire, Scotland Transcription
Mary Coutts Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Perth, Perthshire, Scotland

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Apr 2015 09:28

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
St Andrews Square, 11, St Andrews Glasgow, Calton, Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts Head Married Male 56 1815 Grocer & Provision Mercht Crathie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Jane Coutts Wife Married Female 56 1815 - Bridge of Allan, Stirlingshire, Scotland

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Apr 2015 09:34

Totally different occupation, so this may be a red herring, although Peter's birthplace......and Mary's...........tally with 1861

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Barrack Street, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Peter Coutts Head Married Male 36 1815 Journey Man Blacksmith Crathie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Jane J Coutts Wife Married Female 39 1812 - Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
John Coutts Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Blairgowrie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Transcription
Elisabeth Coutts Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Blairgowrie, Perthshire, Scotland Transcription
Mary Coutts Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Perth, Perthshire, Scotland

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Apr 2015 09:39

If Jane died in Scotland, her death registration will name both parents if the informant knew the details.

EDIT

Just notice that you say that Peter remarried in 1852. Do you think that Jane died before then?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Apr 2015 09:55

Would that apply pre-civil registration, which didn't come into force in Scotland until 1855?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Apr 2015 10:05

No Jacqueline it wouldn't. That's why edited my post. I

If the census posted above are the correct family, is it the case then that his second wife was also called Jane?

I think this is the couple who married in Fraserburgh in 1840

1841

Piece: SCT1841/196 Place: Fraserburgh -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Fraserburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 2 Page: 26
Address: Commerce Street

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
COUTTS Peter M 25 Tailor Aberdeenshire
COUTTS Jean F 27 Aberdeenshire
GRAY Alexander M 16 Apprentice Tailor Aberdeenshire
FYVIE Elisa F 17 Female Servant, Aberdeenshire

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Apr 2015 10:12

Maybe the same Peter in 1861?

Peter Coutts
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Fyvie, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 147/1
Registration district: Banff Burgh
Civil Parish: Banff Burgh
Town: Banff
County: Banffshire
Address: 42 Boyndie St
Occupation: Tailor Empy 8 Men & 3 Boys
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 78
LINE: 18
Roll: CSSCT1861_21
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Coutts 44
John Coutts 7
Susan Mchattie 83 Mother in law
Ann Mchattie 40 Sister in law

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Apr 2015 10:16

Peter Coutts
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 13 May 1852
Marriage Place: Banff,Banff,Scotland
Spouse: Susan Machattie
FHL Film Number: 0990816-8

Oyster

Oyster Report 3 Apr 2015 10:17

I am now very confused as friend and I have been going over information and have found a Jane Bruce christened 12 Jul 1819, Rathven, Banff, Scotland, her
parents James Bruce and Margaret Hay??????Yes I think Peter was a widower
when he married again 13 May 1852 Susan Machattie, Banff, Scotland. I
thought child Mary may have been born to Jane and Peter??
Peter Coutts, son of John Coutts, Surgeon and Margaret Smith - dob P 1795.

Hopefully one of you researchers will sort this out for me. Much appreciated thanks.
L

Oyster

Oyster Report 3 Apr 2015 10:19

OOps Peter Coutts b 2 Aug 1816 and his father, John Coutts b March 1795. L

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Apr 2015 10:19

Who are you actually connected to?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 3 Apr 2015 10:21

If PETER married SUSAN in 1852, that can't possibly be the right family in 1861.

please re-think, and check everything carefully.