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Mills Family Islington Middlesex 1891-

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Catherine

Catherine Report 3 Mar 2015 10:44

Thanks guys, I had to sign off yesterday, but was coming back today to see if I could find a marriage that would fit, but glad to see that you have followed through on my info.
Looks as though Hannah is indeed Hannah Hall then. I hate leaving loose ends so nice to see a good result.

Karen

Karen Report 3 Mar 2015 09:11

Thank you so much Chris and GlitterBaby, I am excited about updating my records today xx

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 Mar 2015 09:04

Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
HALL Hannah Islington 1b 588
Mills George Edward Islington 1b 588
Palmer Charlotte Islington 1b 588
Pearson William Alfred Islington 1b 588


But on Ancestry the marriage is shown as Edward but he signed as George Edward Mills

Name: Hannah Hall
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Age: 23
Spouse: Edward Mills - occupation of clerk
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Dec 1885 - actually 1884 on image
Parish: St Thomas, Islington
Borough: Islington
Father Name: William Hall - farm baliff
Spouse Father: John Wickens Mills - could be saddler
Register Type: Parish Register

Address given as 46 Frederick St


1861
Name: George E Mills
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: 1860
Relation: Son
Father's name: John W Mills
Mother's name: Ann Mills
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartfield, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Hartfield
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: East Grinstead
Sub-registration district: Withyham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 578
Folio: 62
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Mills 31
Ann Mills 32
Henry H Mills 3
George E Mills 1

John is shown as harness maker



First name(s) JOHN WICKENS
Last name MILLS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1820
Age 75
Death quarter 4
Death year 1895
District PANCRAS
County London
Volume 1B
Page 43
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Mar 2015 08:36

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 (Ancestry)

Name: George Edward Mills
Probate Date: 13 Feb 1939
Death Date: 27 Jan 1939
Death Place: London, England
Registry: London, England

(of 46 Frederick Street Caledonian Road. Probate to Margaret Hannah Mills spinster. Effects £310 2s 6d


https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#calendar

(can also be found on above)

Chris :)

Burial
Mills George Edward
Burial date 31 January 1939
Authority London Borough of Islington
Location Islington Cemetery (Islington)

(Grave details and 1 other burial)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Karen

Karen Report 2 Mar 2015 23:31

Catherine,
Yes that does seem to fit. I am in awe at how you find all this information :-)
I suppose sometimes you have to take a chance on certain information and hope that it is all correct, unless someone else can prove otherwise.
Thanks again for all your work
Karen x

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2015 23:18

If the 1881 census records are them, then I was wondering where Edith,noted on 1891 and 1901 census as daughter, aged 11yrs + 21yrs born in Mayfield, Sussex was in 1881 census?

Found this one:-

Name: Edith Emily Hall
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Mayfield, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Mayfield
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: Wellbrook Cottage

Registration district: Uckfield
Sub registration district: Rotherfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1051
Folio: 37
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hall 50
Charlotte L. Hall 48
George Hall 17
Fanny Hall 15
Ada Hall 9
Kate Hall 8
Edith Emily Hall 1

........................which would fit

and 1861 census for same family shows that they had a daughter called Hannah.

Name: Hannah Hall
Age: 3/12 (should be 3yrs)
Estimated birth year: 1861 (should be 1858)
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Hall
Mother's name: Charlotte Hall
Gender: Female
Where born: Mayfield, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Mayfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Mayfield
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Uckfield
Sub-registration district: Rotherfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 574
Folio: 131
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hall 30
Charlotte Hall 29
Mark Hall 8
Harriett Hall 5
Hannah Hall 3/12 (I think this should be 3yrs)
Emily Hall 1/12
Martha Sellings 20

............................................so would fit.

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2015 23:05

Taking a look for a marriage between George and Hannah, what do you think about this:-

Going on birth dates and places from the other census records, I think that this could be George in 1881:-

Name: George E. Mills
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartfield, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Tonbridge
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 17 and 18 MT Pleasant
Occupation: (Domestic)
Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub registration district: Tunbridge Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 913
Folio: 100
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
William Beadell Bacon 35
Jane Bacon 33
Alice Marian Bacon 8
William Beedell Bacon 7
Emma Caroline Bacon 6
Harold Bacon 4
Jane Bacon 3
Fanny Sudweekes 61
Emily Cavill 33
Minnie Allcorn 23
Jane Thompson 19
Ellen L. Sargent 14
Kate C. Rand 21
George E. Mills 21
Henry A. Tribe 18

........................

......................so could this be Hannah????

Name: Hannah Hall
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Mayfield, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Tonbridge
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: 40 St James Rd
Occupation: Domestic Serv
Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub registration district: Tunbridge Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 916
Folio: 15
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline M. Norris 69
Henry G. Norris 30
Caroline L. Norris 34
Charlotte Norris 32
Jane Nicholas 23
Hannah Hall 22

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2015 22:12

Always best to leave a thread for future reference, as it has been known that others just may come across your thead and get in touch.
Good luck and please do keep us up to date.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Mar 2015 22:09

Oh bother

There is a possible birth for Hannah Burchett in 1858 in Sussex but I still can not find any possible marriage to George so going to rule that out for the time being


Think you are going to have to get one of the birth certs to find out the maiden name of Hannah




1881 just on case it is relevant at a later date
Name: Hannah Burchett
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: John Burchett
Mother: Naomi Burchett
Gender: Female
Where born: Warbleton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Mayfield
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: Myths
Occupation: Ag Labourers Daughter
Registration district: Uckfield
Sub registration district: Rotherfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14d
Piece: 1051
Folio: 46
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Burchett 60
Naomi Burchett 50
Hannah Burchett 23
Elizabeth Burchett - this could be Emily Elizabeth born Mayfield

NO RULE OUT the 1881 posted as Elizabeth is still with her grandmother in 1891



Perhaps George and Hannah never married

Karen

Karen Report 2 Mar 2015 22:01

Thank you all so much, it is interesting to hear that the Mills continued to live at the same address, thank you Rambling Rose x
Catherine, yes I think I need to purchase some Certificates. to make sure of my facts, but thanks to all your kind information, I have so much to go on already.
Cannot thank you all enough.
Will post an update once I have certificates, just in case someone else who has an interest in the family takes a look
Karen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Mar 2015 22:01

Okay mad guess time

Could Emily on 1891 b1880 Mayfield really be Emily Elizabeth Burchett who was baptised in Mayfield on 1 May 1881 and mother is Hannah Burchett

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2015 21:58

This looks to be the birth record for your father:-

Births Mar 1935 (>99%)
Eastoe Anthony B Eastoe Rochford 4a 1057

...............so name is noted as Eastoe.

I would suggest that the 'B' is probably for Beach and could very possibly be the surname of his father.

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2015 21:55

So the marriage I found would be the correct one.
i would suggest buying a copy of the marriage certificate to see if the information it gives on Margaret fits with the information already found.
If it does, then you will at least be able to put together one side of your family tree. :-D

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Mar 2015 21:55

The Mills family continued to live at the same address into the 1930s,

Name: George Edward Mills
Year: 1930
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington South and West
Street address: 46 Matilda39 FREDERICK STREET-

Karen

Karen Report 2 Mar 2015 21:51

Many years ago I was trying to trace my grandfather, but gave up on this as I think it was an impossible search,
My father Anthony was born in 1935. His birth certificate shows his surname as BEACH but he always thought his surname was SAFFERY. Turns out that his mother Margaret Eastoe married a Frederick Saffery who adopted Anthony and changed his name. My dad was completely unaware of this until just before he passed away. It would be lovely to find out if there are any living relatives on the Mills/Eastoe side, but the main purpose of my search is just to be able to put together a family tree. I doubt if I will ever be able to go back much further than I already have, but if I could at least put a little tree together it would be lovely.
I will try the library for electoral registers

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2015 21:50

One of the most important things when doing your family tree is to buy some certificates to be sure you are on the correct track.
Even then, people did tell some little white lies so they are not 100% reliable, but without them, anything you find is only speculation.

If Anthony was your father, do you have his birth certificate? If so, then what information does it give?

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Mar 2015 21:45

The death in Rochford would make sense, this is Bernard before his marriage

1901
Name: Bernard W Eastoe
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Walter W Eastoe
Mother: Helen Eastoe
Birth Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Northwest Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 452
Folio: 6
Page Number: 4
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter W Eastoe 44
Helen Eastoe 41
Frederick H Eastoe 20
Bernard W Eastoe 19


and then his parents and brother's family are living in Rochford in 1911
Name: Walter William Eastoe
Age in 1911: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Clapham, Surrey
Civil Parish: Prittlewell
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 88 York Rd, Southend On Sea
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 37
Estimated Marriage Year: 1874
Registration district: Rochford
Registration District Number: 195
Sub-registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 10136
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter William Eastoe 56
Helen Eastoe 54
Frederick H Eastoe 31
Edith Emily Eastoe 30
Dorothy Edith Eastoe 8/12
Eunice Ellen Eastoe 1

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2015 21:42

The only marriage I can see so far for a Margaret C.Eastoe is this one:-

Marriages Sep 1938 (>99%)
Eastoe Margaret C Saffery Brentford 3a 1013
Saffery Frederick N Eastoe Brentford 3a 1013

The district Brentford is in the county of Middlesex

Would this fit with your family?

Karen

Karen Report 2 Mar 2015 21:40

Margaret was my grandmother and although she died several years ago, I remember her telling me that she spent her early years in Islington, and that her mother died when she was very young. The death of Constance in 1913 would tie in with what I was told. I have no idea who bought Margaret up and she never really talked about it when she was alive. She had a son in 1935 my father Anthony but was not married at the time, so I think everything was hushed up in the family and no one ever spoke about the family history, which is very sad. I am now going to see if I can at least put together part of a tree to hand down for future generations, but have seen already today from all your kind information, how easy it is for a novice to go down the wrong path. Think I have my work cut out lol xx

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2015 21:40

Hi Karen, just noticed your earlier posting.
If you are trying to link this family to someone in your tree, are you able to give us the name of the person as we may be able to work backwards for you?