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2 Mar 2015 09:43 |
I am looking for any information about Thomas Smith, all I know at the moment is he married Elizabeth (Betsy) Hockey at Membury Devon in 1823, they had a son Henry born at Stockland Devon also in 1823. Stockland is very close to Membury. I have searched the 1841 census without luck. I do realise that the name Smith is a difficult name to research but any help would be most welcomed, thank you. Regards, Judy
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Jacqueline
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2 Mar 2015 09:45 |
How did you work back to them?
For info, showing father's occ.
First name(s) Henry Last name Smith Baptism year 1823 Birth year 1823 Birth date 07 Sep 1823 Father's first name Thomas Father's occupation Chandler Mother's first name Elizabeth Baptism place Stockland Residence Stockland County Devon Record set Devon Baptisms
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2 Mar 2015 09:49 |
First name(s) Sarah Last name Smith Baptism year 1828 Birth year 1828 Birth date 17 Feb 1828 Father's first name Thomas Father's occupation Chandler Mother's first name Elizabeth Baptism place Stockland Residence Stockland County Devon
First name(s) Joan Maria Last name Smith Baptism year 1834 Birth year 1834 Birth date 06 Apr 1834 Father's first name Thomas Father's occupation Farmer Mother's first name Elizabeth Baptism place Stockland Residence Membury County Devon
First name(s) Mary Last name Smith Baptism year 1825 Birth year 1825 Birth date 03 Oct 1825 Father's first name Thomas Father's occupation Chandler Mother's first name Elizabeth Baptism place Stockland Residence Stockland County Devon
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Smith Baptism year 1830 Birth year 1830 Birth date 18 Sep 1830 Father's first name Thomas Father's occupation Chandler Mother's first name Elizabeth Baptism place Stockland Residence Membury County Devon
Different occ for father, but may be a sibling, in view of Christian name
First name(s) Thomas Last name Smith Baptism year 1837 Birth year 1837 Birth date 08 Jan 1837 Father's first name Thomas Father's occupation Farmer Mother's first name Elizabeth Baptism place Stockland Residence Stockland County Devon
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2 Mar 2015 09:52 |
First name(s) Thomas Last name Smith Age 41 Birth year 1796 Death year 1837 Burial year 1837 Burial date 12 May 1837 Burial place Stockland County Devon Country England Notes Stockland Record set Devon Burials
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2 Mar 2015 09:55 |
Hello Jacqueline, Thanks for your kind help, I found them mentioned in the Will of Thomas Hockey (Elizabeth,s Father) who died in 1830 at Membury. Judy.
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2 Mar 2015 09:55 |
Did Elizabeth re-marry?
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Tremshays, Stockland, Axminster, Dorset, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place William Moore Male 25 1816 Dorset, England Transcription Elizabeth Moore Female 35 1806 - Transcription Eliza Moore Female 0 1841 Dorset, England Transcription Sarah Smith Female 13 1828 Dorset, England Transcription Elizabeth Smith Female 10 1831 Dorset, England Transcription Jane Smith Female 7 1834 Dorset, England Transcription Robert Smith Male 70 1771 - Transcription
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Jacqueline
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2 Mar 2015 09:57 |
Yes....she did
First name(s) William Last name Moore Age Full Age Birth year - Marriage year 1840 Marriage date 22 Oct 1840 Place Stockland Residence Stockland Father's first name William Father's last name Moore Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Smith Spouse age Full Age Spouse's residence Stockland Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's father's last name Mckey County Devon Country England Archive reference 1215A/PR/1/7
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Elizabeth's father THOMAS HOCKEY
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2 Mar 2015 10:38 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Village, Stockland, Axminster, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Moore Jr Head Married Male 34 1817 Farmer Of 120 Acres Employing 2 Labourers Stockland, Devon, England Transcription Elizabeth Moore Wife Married Female 45 1806 - Membury, Devon, England Transcription Eliza Moore Daughter - Female 10 1841 - Stockland, Devon, England Transcription William Moore Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Stockland, Devon, England Transcription Harriett Moore Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Membury, Devon, England Transcription Thomas Moore Son - Male 4 1847 - Membury, Devon, England Transcription Mary Moore Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Stockland, Devon, England Transcription Henry Broughton Servant Unmarried Male 20 1831 General Serv In Door Chard, Somerset, England Transcription Thomas Coombs Servant - Male 9 1842 General Serv In Door Stockland, Devon, England Transcription Mary Bonfield Servant - Female 13 1838 - Yarcombe, Devon, England Transcription
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2 Mar 2015 10:39 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Goulds Farm, Kid Lane, Stockland, Axminster, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Moore Head Married Male 44 1817 Farmer Of 80 Acres Employ 2men And 2boys Stockland, Devon, England Transcription Elizabeth Moore Wife Married Female 54 1807 Farmers Wife Membury, Devon, England Transcription William Moore Son Unmarried Male 19 1842 Farmers Son Membury, Devon, England Transcription Hariott Moore Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1845 Farmers Daughter Membury, Devon, England Transcription Thomas Moore Son - Male 14 1847 Farmers Son Membury, Devon, England Transcription Walter J Moore Nephew - Male 6 1855 Scholar Southington, Middlesex, England Transcription James Board Servant Unmarried Male 18 1843 Carter Stockland, Devon, England Transcription
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2 Mar 2015 10:41 |
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Moore Age 73 Birth year 1805 Death year 1878 Burial year 1878 Burial date 18 Mar 1878 Burial place Stockland County Devon Country England Archive reference 1215A/PR/1/14 Record set Devon Burials
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2 Mar 2015 11:52 |
Hi Jacqueline, Thank you very much for the Smith/Moore information that you have found, I did not know that Elizabeth remarried so that was the reason I could not find the family on the census records and thanks to you I can now update my tree, I wonder what happened to her son Henry, he is not mentioned on the 1841 census ! Thanks once again, Best wishes, Judy
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Jacqueline
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2 Mar 2015 12:59 |
I'll see if I can pin him down
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Jacqueline
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2 Mar 2015 13:00 |
Maybe....................
First name(s) Henry Last name Smith Age 38 Birth year 1823 Death year 1861 Burial year 1861 Burial date 15 Sep 1861 Burial place Stockland County Devon Country England Archive reference 1215A/PR/1/14 Record set Devon Burials
Deaths Sep 1861 (>99%) Smith Henry Axminster 5b 7
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2 Mar 2015 16:34 |
Thanks again Jacqueline. Judy.
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4 Mar 2015 16:00 |
Hello Jacqueline, I wonder if you could help me with a problem that I have with Elizabeth Smith./ Moore (nee Hockey) In her father,s will dated 1830 he states that I give William Symons my son-In-Law one pound as a token of my regard and I give unto my daughter Elizabeth otherwise Betsy the wife of Thomas Smith the sum of Fifty Pounds. In the 1841 census for Stockland there is William Symons aged 40 a farmer and his wife is Elizabeth aged 35 (Elizabeth Hockey was born about1806)there is also 7 children. my problem is you have found in the 1841 census William Moore and wife Elizabeth (born 1805) both Elizabeth,s fit the birth date of 1805, but clearly there cannot be two entries for the same person, have you any idea where I can go from here. Thank you for any help or pointers. Best wishes, Judy
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Jacqueline
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4 Mar 2015 16:31 |
Sorry, Judy, but there isn't a 'problem'
The 1841 for Elizabeth MOORE is the right woman
I gave you her marriage info
Have responded also to your PM.
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Jacqueline
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5 Mar 2015 09:00 |
Elizabeth was born 8th July 1804, baptized 5th January, 1806. Mother's name Sarah
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5 Mar 2015 09:42 |
Thanks again Jacqueline, there must have been another Daughter for Thomas & Sarah that I have missed and she married William Symons. The research that you have kindly found for me is very much appreciated. Best Wishes, Judy
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5 Mar 2015 16:31 |
I have solved the mystery. In the 1800s a son-in-law was stepson not as we know it today, I have found that Thomas Hockey,s wife (Sarah) was married to a Henry Symons and they had a son William, Henry died at Luppit about 1797 and Sarah married Thomas 30-8-1798 at Luppit. I have not yet been able to find the marriage of Sarah & Henry to give me Sarah,s maiden name. Regards, Judy
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5 Mar 2015 16:47 |
Great.........well done! That makes complete sense.
I'm guessing you know about Elizabeth's brother, but, just in case............
First name(s) John Last name Hockey Birth year 1798 Birth date 21 Dec 1798 Baptism year 1800 Baptism date 22 Jan 1800 Baptism place Stockland Father's first name Thomas Mother's first name Sarah County Devon Archive reference 1215A/PR/1/2 Record set Devon Baptisms
First name(s) John Last name Hockey Age 31 Birth year 1799 Death year 1830 Burial year 1830 Burial date 14 Jan 1830 Burial place Stockland County Devon Country England Notes Membury Record set Devon Burials
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