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I would appreciate any help please for Hiram Moore born Addeley Shropshire but lived in Lancashire. Found him in the 1861 census and then a marriage in 1865 to Mary A Darnton, after that unable to find any information on him

Just for ref

Name: Hiram Moore (occ joiner)
Birth Year: abt 1842
Age: 23
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1865
Parish: Manchester, St John
Parish as it Appears: Manchester
Father's name: John Moore
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Darnton
Spouse's Father's Name: George Darnton
Reference Number: GB127.M403/6/3/40

Name: Joseph Moore
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1867
Parish: Hulme, St Philip
Parish as it Appears: S Philip, Hulme
Father's name: Hiram Moore
Mother's name: Mary Ann Moore
Reference Number: M320/4/1/3
Item Number: 6
Archive Roll: 810

How about this one?

Name: Hiram Moore
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1869
Event Place: New York City, New York, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Nationality: England
Birth Year (Estimated): 1841
Ship Name: Columbia

He was travelling alone, though I wonder if this has any relevance at all?

1871
Name: Mary Ann Moore
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Prisoner <<<<
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Gorton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: Manchester City Gaol

She is noted as 'married'.
However it's a common name, could just be a coincidence.

marriage of son, Hiram given as deceased, one of the witnesses was a Mary Emma Moore.

Name: Joseph Moore
Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 25
Marriage Date: 4 Sep 1892
Parish: Hulme, St George
Parish as it Appears: Hulme, St George
Father's name: Hiram Moore
Spouse's Name: Sarah Jane Roberts
Spouse's Father's Name: James Roberts
Reference Number: GB127.M383/1/2/4

Joseph in 1891 police fireman ( given as fireman on marriage cert)

Name: Joseph Moore
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Broughton [Near Salford]
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3212
Folio: 7
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Key 30
Bertha Key 28
Joseph Moore

Thank you Rose Idid find these 2 records. They also had a daughter Mary E Moore born about 1868 - 1870 . Found her to be in the Manchester Workhouse in 1904 with a daughter, believe she was unmarried . The family out in America are desperate to find information on this daughter Mary Teresa a Moore.

1871

Joseph Moore
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Mary Moore
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 183
Piece: 3995
Folio: 44
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Moore 24, married
Joseph Moore 5
Mary E Moore 3
Catherine Denton 54, mother
Joseph Danton 23, brother
Joseph Booth

1881

Name: Joseph Moore
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relationship to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester
Civil Parish: Chorlton on Medlock
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Grosvenor Place
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Vanman (Carter)
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub registration district: Chorlton Upon Medlock
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3913
Folio: 82
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
John Moore 58
Mary Moore 66
Joseph Moore 14
Mary E. Moore 12
Mary A. Moore 29
James N. Lowe 27

1891
Name: Mary E Moore
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary A Moore
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chorlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3194
Folio: 135
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary A Moore 40
Mary E Moore 22
John Moore 15

So the Mary E Moore must be Mary Emma his sister. Witness at Josephs wedding.In the Manchester workhouse she was called Polly and I found her through an address as being 58 Newcastle Street Hulme and states her friend as being what looks like Mr Haucroft but in 1871 the next door neighbour was Hobroyd at no 61 .

The Mary A Moore you found in 1871 in prison do you think it could be possible she went in after the census in Hulme

Name: Mary Emma Moore
Birth Year: abt 1869
Age: 26
Marriage Date: 5 Jun 1895
Parish: Hulme, St George
Parish as it Appears: Hulme, St George
Father's name: Hiram Moore
Spouse's Name: James William Roberts ( age 27 warehouseman)
Spouse's Father's Name: James Roberts
Reference Number: GB127.M383/1/2/4

Witness is her brother Joseph

Mary Teresa Moore
England, Manchester, Miscellaneous Records
Name: Mary Teresa Moore
Event Type: Workhouse admission
Event Date: 1904
Event Year Range: 1862 - 1905
Event Place: Lancashire, England
Digital Folder Number: 004510031

In the 1881 census I see it states Mary As Moore living with in laws as being a widow yet in the 1891 census there was a son John age 15 but he was not on the 1881 census, interesting I have found no death for Hiram a Moore in Lancashire.

I think we have two Mary's here, don't think the Mary in the workhouse is the same one

birth
Name: Harold Roberts
Birth Date: 8 May 1898
Age: 0
Baptism Date: 12 Jun 1898
Parish: Hulme, St George
Parish as it Appears: Hulme, St George
Father's name: James William Roberts
Mother's name: Mary Emma Moore
Reference Number: GB127.M383/1/1/8

Wow Rose now that is interesting the marriage of Mary Emma Moore in 1895 to James Roberts, I wonder why she gave the name of Polly Moore in the Manchester Workhouse . Feel sure this is the mother of Mary Teresa Moore who gave birth to a daughter in 1925 Leeds and was in a RC care home there

I think this may be her in 1901 with the aforesaid John Moore, but her husband's name is down as John rather than James?


Name: Harold Roberts
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: John Wm Roberts
Mother: Mary Emma Roberts
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Hulme St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3707
Folio: 53
Page Number: 31
Household schedule number: 172
Household Members:
Name Age
John Wm Roberts 33
Mary Emma Roberts 32
Harold Roberts 2
Nellie Roberts 1/12
John Moore 25

Rose I don't think the Mary Emma Roberts nee Moore can be the one but how strange that her father was Hiram Moore and a brother Joseph. I an only tying this Polly Moore up with Mary Emma Moore because of having the same address as her next door neighbour in 1871 . Just baffles me. I know Polly is a pet name for Mary

There are very few Hiram Moores, and not in that area, so I think perhaps somewhere along the line there is a mistake?

This seems to Nellie the child the child on the 1901 census of Mary Emma Moore who married Roberts, ( her father definitely Hiram) here her husband is just listed as William rather than James or John William Roberts, but the occupation matches that on the marriage cert.

Name: Nellie Roberts
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1901
Age: 0
Baptism Date: 24 Apr 1901
Parish: Hulme, St George
Parish as it Appears: Hulme, St George
Father's name: William Roberts
Mother's name: Mary Emma Moore
Reference Number: GB127.M383/1/1/8