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looking for ancestors of Joseph Swanick Ord married to Margaret Anne Pritchard, name changed to Hoard on Marriage Certificate. Father William Ord.
Joseph was born in Shropshire c1884 had two children - daughter Hannah Hoard son John Allen Swanick Hoard.
Hannah was married to Thomas Jones/Gwynne.
She went to the USofA in the Early 1900s as a nanny to the Gilchrist Family.

Have you found joseph on any census ?

Or got his birth certificate for his parents names

marriage for Joseph and Margaret Prichard in 1865

Joseph Sevannick Ord

Can you check your dates



Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
Hoard Joseph S 56 Wellington, Sh. 6a 530

1901

Name: Joseph S Hoard
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Margaret A Hoard
Birth Place: Wellington, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Hadley
Ecclesiastical parish: Hadley Holy Trinity
Town: Leegomery
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wellington (Shropshire)
Sub-registration district: Wellington
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2563
Folio: 163
Page Number: 13
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph S Hoard 60
Margaret A Hoard 57
Mable A Gwynne 7

John Allen Swanick Hoard.

on 1881 census b1874



Name: John A S Hoard
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Jun 1955
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Wellington
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 228

No wonder I couldn't find them!!

Was going to query how a Hannah went to the states in the early 1900's if Joseph wasn't born till c 1884

So Hannah left her daughter with he parents when she went to the states

Sadly this looks like her daughter
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First name(s) MABEL ANNIE
Last name GWYNNE
Birth year 1893
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District WELLINGTON (SHROPSHIRE)
County Shropshire
Country England
Volume 6A
Page 715


Death
First name(s) MABEL ANNIE
Last name GWYNNE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1894
Age 10
Death quarter 1
Death year 1904
District WELLINGTON (SHROPSHIRE)
County Shropshire
Volume 6A
Page 571
Country England

Marriages Jun 1892
Gwynne Thomas Jones Wellington, Sh. 6a 1513
HOARD Hannah Wellington Sh. 6a 1513

First name(s) Thomas Jones
Last name Gwynne
Birth year 1871
Marriage year 1892
Marriage date 12 Jun 1892
Marriage place Hadley
Denomination Anglican
Residence Hadley
Age 21
Father's first name(s) Francis
Father's last name Gwynne
Spouse's first name(s) Hannah
Spouse's last name Hoard
Spouse's residence Hadley
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's father's last name Hoard
County Shropshire
Register date range 1858-1900
Archive reference P119/A/2/1
Page 78
Register type Marriage
Record set Shropshire marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Sadly looks like she lost her hubby too

First name(s) THOMAS JONES
Last name GWYNNE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1873
Age 21
Death quarter 4
Death year 1894
District ATCHAM
County Shropshire
Volume 6A
Page 405
Country England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Red House, Leegomery Road, Wellington, Shropshire, England

Joseph S Hoard Head Married Male 49 1842 Ironworker Wellington, Shropshire, England

Margaret A Hoard Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Wellington, Shropshire, England

Hannah Hoard Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Dressmaker Wellington, Shropshire, England

John Allen Hoard Son Single Male 17 1874 Blacksmith Wellington, Shropshire, England

William Parker Lodger Widower Male 88


Ages a bit diffrent but this is them on the 1881 census

Leegomery Lane, Wellington, Shropshire, England

Joseph S Hoard Head Married Male 37 1844 Puddler In Ironworks Wellington, Shropshire, England

Margaret Ann Hoard Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Preston, Shropshire, England

Harriet Pritchard Sister In Law Single Female 27 1854 Domestic Serv Horton, Shropshire, England

Jno Allan S Hoard Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Horton, Shropshire, England

Hannah S Hoard Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Horton, Shropshire, England

1871

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Name: Joseph Hoard
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Margaret Ann Hoard
Gender: Male
Where born: Rettley; Wellington
Civil Parish: Wellington
Ecclesiastical parish: Hadley
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wellington
Sub-registration district: Wellington
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 2808
Folio: 108
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
William Pritchard 46
Margaret Pritchard 45
Harriet Pritchard 14
Walter Mancel Pritchard 9
Elen Pritchard 6
Joseph Hoard 26
Margaret Ann Hoard 25

Do you have the 1865 marriage cert ?

Would be useful to have some feedback

Not seeing Joseph on any earlier than. 1871 census

Me neither which is why the info from the marriage cert would be useful

Not yet found a death for Margaret or found her on 1911 census

????

Name: Joseph Swanwick Hore
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Nov 1842
Christening Place: WELLINGTON,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: William Hore
Mother's Name: Susannah


Name: Allen Swannick Hore
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 13 May 1838
Christening Place: WELLINGTON,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: William Hore
Mother's Name: Susanah

Okay am I barking up the wrong tree at the moment

1841? Not got a clue as to what that surname should read as

Name: Allen Dour
[Allen Hore]
[Allen Ord]
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Wellington
Hundred: South Bradford (Wellington Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Wellington
Sub-registration district: Wellington
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 907
Book: 3
Folio: 34
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
William Dour 45 - groom
Susanna Dour 40
Louisa Dour 8
Susannah Dour 16
Allen Dour 3
Hannah Dour 1



1851 ??
Name: Joseph Hore
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Hore
Gender: Male
Where born: Watling Street, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Wellington
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County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Wellington
Sub-registration district: Ercall Magna
ED, institution, or vessel: 1m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 68
Piece: 1997
Folio: 458
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hore 56 - higgler
Louisa Hore 17
Allen Hore 14
Hannah Hore 11
Joseph Hore 9
Sarah Hore 7
Ellen Hore 5 **


Higgler Itinerant peddler. A lot of the Higgler's trade involved barter, rather than money changing hands and the name derives from the resultant haggling.


** Can find Ellen on 1861 as HOSE

They look good ,glitter

Wondered wether it wasn't a change of name but how the name was pronounced with the local accent

If folks couldn't read it write then they would have no idea how things were recorded

Still would like to know if the poster has that marriage cert

Don't know if she was working there or a patient

Name: Margaret Anne Hoard
Age in 1911: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Preston, Shoprshire
Civil Parish: Hadley Preston upon the Weald Moors Eyton upon the
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address: Preston Hospital, Wellington, Salop
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: Wellington
Registration District Number: 355
Sub-registration district: Wellington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 187
Piece: 16302
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Mary Rogers 63
Alice Mary Rogers
And many more !!

Hanna's arrival in USA:

Hannah Gwynne

in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957


Name: Hannah Gwynne
Arrival Date: 21 Sep 1925
Birth Date: abt 1870
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: wellington
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Leviathan

She;s a widow, gives name of nearest relative as brother John Hoard, Wellington.