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Hello one of my ancestors married a jewish man in about 1848/49 probably in Manchester, can anyone tell me if there is an online site where I could search for her marriage ?
kath

Have you tried FreeBMD?

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Thank you , yes I have tried free bmd ,

Would you like to post the details, another set of eyes/resources might help

try the free site - www.familysearch.org

Right here goes
JANE SIMS married JAMES BIRCH in 1845 but by the 1851 census she is listed as wife to JOSEPH SOLOMON . He was from Poland and was Jewish.
From what I have been told Jane was known as REBECCA to her jewish family and friends ,
In 1851 she is in Ashton-under-lyne
I have the birth certificate of one of her children,he was born in 1853 in Wigan she is shown as Jane Solomon nee Sims on that

Hope the above information is useful
Thank you any help will be appreciated

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Market Square, Hanley, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Solomon Head - Male 44 1827 - Poland (Russia)
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Jane Solomon Wife Mar Female 42 1829 - Essex, England
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Eli Solomon Son Unm Male 19 1852 - Lancashire, England
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Sarah Solomon Daur Unm Female 16 1855 Dressmaker Lancashire, England
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Urahan Solomon Son - Male 14 1857 Glass Cutter Lancashire, England
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Jacob Solomon Son - Male 7 1864 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Leah Solomon Daur - Female 5 1866 Scholar Staffordshire, England
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Marian Solomon Daur - Female 2 1869 - Staffordshire, England
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Ellen Badderley - Unm Male 24 1847 General Servant Staffordshire, England

Yes that is the correct family
1851 they are in Ashton
1853 they are in Wigan
1861 they are in Manchester
from then onwards they are in Staffordshire

Have you found the death of her hubby James Birch

Not what you're after, but possibly related? The additon of an S at the end of Solomon may rule it out

Jewish Chronicle, 11 April 1873, page 17

Marriage on 2nd April at Hanley by Rev Prof Isaacs of Manchester of Sarah, daughter of Mr J. Solomons of Hanley to Mr A. Biurski of Burslem. [Sarah Solomons June 1873 Manchester 8d 813 and Abraham Biurski]

From the same edition, but a different page
Jewish Chronicle, 11 April 1873, page 16

First Jewish wedding at Hanley was held in the temporary synagogue in Foundry Street. In the afternoon provisions were given to 100 poor persons in Hanley by the bridegroom ‘’who preferred this charitable mode of celebrating his wedding to making the customary honeymoon trip’

http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/community/stoke/Press_Reports_Hanley_Stoke.htm

This one ??

NAME: Jane Sims
AGE: Minor
MARRIAGE DATE: 4 Jun 1845
PARISH: Bolton le Moors, St Peter
PARISH AS IT APPEARS: Bolton-le-Moors
FATHER'S NAME: Thomas Sims
SPOUSE'S NAME: James Birchh
SPOUSE'S FATHER'S NAME: John Birch
REFERENCE NUMBER: GB127.L243/1/4/31


James - railway guard. Father John a weaver
Thomas Sims - excise officer

Thank you for your help

Sarah Solomon whose marriage you have found was Joseph and Jane's daughter.

The marriage between Jane Sims and James Birch I already have the certificate

As to James Birch,s death I believe he died in 1848 in Bolton but I have not sent for the certificate
Thanks again

There are local indexes available at http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

Using http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1846 to 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SOLOMON Joseph Ashton Town Tameside SIMS AST/26/26

Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
Solomon Joseph Ashton 20 4

The 3 local index collections I'm using here all index using the actual year of birth.
Here Joseph must have been born in Dec 1850, but not rego'ed until after the new year (as the GRO indexes by quarter of registration).

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1853 SOLOMON Eli Wigan Wigan & Leigh SIMS WIG/37/181
1854 SOLOMON Hannah Maria Wigan Wigan & Leigh SIMS WIG/42/109
1856 SOLOMON George Frederick Wigan Wigan & Leigh SIMS WIG/47/213

Using http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/
Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1865 SOLOMON Leah Hanley Stoke-On-Trent SIM HAN/030/092
1866 SOLOMON Rachel Hanley Stoke-On-Trent SIMM HAN/032/066
1868 SOLOMON Hannah Hanley Stoke-On-Trent SIMM HAN/034/096
1869 SOLOMON Marian Hanley Stoke-On-Trent SIMMS HAN/037/008
1872 SOLOMON Esther Hanley Stoke-On-Trent SIMM HAN/042/014

Deaths Mar 1868 (>99%)
Solomon Rachel 1 Stoke T. 6b 102


1861
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Joseph Solomon Jane 1823 city relation city, Lancashire
Jane Solomon Joseph 1829 city, Essex, England relation city, Lancashire
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Isaac Solomon Joseph,Jane 1851 city, Lancashire, England relation city, Lancashire
Ely Solomon Joseph,Jane 1853 city, Lancashire, England relation city, Lancashire
Sarah Solomon Joseph,Jane 1854 city, Lancashire, England relation city, Lancashire
Abraham Solomon Joseph,Jane 1856 city, Lancashire, England relation city, Lancashire
George F Sims 1823 city, Essex, England relation city, Lancashire
[I can't see census - I don't know if George is boarding with Jos, or in some other h/h]


The 1861 piece #s for Manchester RD are:
MANCHESTER RD RG9
Ancoats 2927-2937
Deansgate 2938-2943
London Road 2944-2948
Market Street 2949-2954
St George 2955-2964
Newton 2965-2968
Cheetham 2969-2972
Failsworth 2973-2974
Blackley 2975
Prestwich 2976

So this census was taken in the Cheetham subdistrict.

Thank you for the above info. I already have found this so sorry for wasting you time it is just JANE SIMS AND JOSEPH SOLOMONS marriage that I cannot find
It is so frustrating !!!
Thank you for everyone's help much appreciated

But you said earler that you already have the certificate,

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"The marriage between Jane Sims and Joseph Solomon I already have the certificate"

You say you have the marriage cert of Jane Sims and Joseph Solomon but then you can't find the marriage

Don't understand what you looking for then ???

Quote from above
Thank you for your help

Sarah Solomon whose marriage you have found was Joseph and Jane's daughter.

The marriage between Jane Sims and Joseph Solomon I already have the certificate

As to James Birch,s death I believe he died in 1848 in Bolton but I have not sent for the certificate
Thanks again

Sorry to confuse you,I have the marriage certificate between JANE SIMS and JAMES BIRCH, they married in 1845 in Bolton that was her first marriage.
What I cannot find is her second marriage .
JANE SIMS married JOSEPH SOLOMON before 1851 well I think she did as on the 1851 census she is living in Ashton-u-Lyne with a two month old son named JOSEPH SOLOMON .

I think her first husband JAMES BIRCH died in 1848 but I have not yet bought the certificate.

I am so sorry to confuse everyone

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1848
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
BIRCH James 69 Little Bolton Bolton LB/10/456

Rather old, I would have thought, to have been marrying a minor 3 years earlier

What was his age when he married?

It looks more than likely that no second marriage took place

But is this her in 1851? She's listed as daughter-in-law of Mary Hayes:

Jane Soloman

in the 1851 England Census
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Name: Jane Soloman
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Daughter In Law
Spouse's Name: John Heyes
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Ashton under Lyne
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton Under Lyne
Town: Ashton Under Lyne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Ashton Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1q
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Household schedule number: 159
Piece: 2233
Page Number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Heyes 47
Jemima Heyes 16
Isabella Heyes 14
John Heyes 11
Jane Soloman 21
Joseph Soloman 3/12

Maybe they didn't get legally married . You could enquire of the synagogue whether it was possible to be married according to Jewish rites but not for it to be a legal marriage

I know when I married in 1957 in the Catholic Church we had to put our banns in too at the local register office and a registrar attended the church at the time and married us legally in the vestry and we signed the register she had bought with her giving us our copy of it