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31 Dec 2014 10:09 |
If this burial record on Ancestry is the correct Jennet, then the family must hav stayed in India for some years
Name: Jennett Coles Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 13 Birth Date: 1912 Death Date: 2 Sep 1925 Burial Date: 3 Sep 1925 Burial Place: Bombay, Bombay, India Father: William Henry Coles FHL Film Number: 528107
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31 Dec 2014 16:38 |
Apologies if these births have already been posted, hard to keep track now we're on page 3.
Name: Evelyn Clifford Coles Gender: Male Christening Date: 23 Jul 1903 Christening Place: Parel, Bombay, India Birth Date: 11 Jun 1903 Father's Name: William Henry Coles Mother's Name: Evelyn Catherine Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00228-0 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 462969
EDit: says female on baptism register.
Name: Lily Elsie Coles Gender: Female Christening Date: 28 Feb 1906 Christening Place: Byculla, Bombay, India Birth Date: 20 Jan 1906 Father's Name: William Henry Coles Mother's Name: Evelyn Catherine Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00228-3 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 462972
died as infant:
Name: Lilly Elsie Coles Gender: Female Burial Date: 18 Jun 1912 Burial Place: Sewri, Bombay, India Death Date: 18 Jun 1912 Age: 6 Birth Date: 1906 Father's Name: William Henry Coles Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00264-3 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 523897
Name: Florence Irene Lucy Coles Gender: Female Christening Date: 29 Nov 1909 Christening Place: Bombay, Bombay, India Birth Date: 26 Oct 1909 Father's Name: William Henry Coles Mother's Name: Evelyn Catherine Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00228-9 , System Origin: India-EASy , GS Film number: 523892
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31 Dec 2014 16:44 |
Also:
First name(s) Edith Marguerite Last name Coles Baptism year 1908 Birth year 1908 Place Parel,St Mary the Virgin Presidency - Mother's first name(s) Evelyn Catherine Mother's last name - Father's first name(s) William Henry Father's last name Coles Baptism date 5 Apr 1908 Birth date 09 Mar 1908 Archive reference - Folio 209 Page - Catalogue descriptions - Record set British India Office births & baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain brightsolid online publishing ltd.
I think you've had this one - Jennet?
First name(s) Jennie Lavinia Thelma Last name Coles Baptism year 1912 Birth year 1912 Place Parel,St Mary the Virgin Presidency Bombay Mother's first name(s) Evelyn Catherine Mother's last name - Father's first name(s) William Henry Father's last name Coles Baptism date 9 Mar 1912 Birth date 11 Feb 1912 Archive reference N-3-107 Folio 31 Page - Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948 Record set British India Office births & baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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1 Jan 2015 14:55 |
Looks like Emma Edith had 2 ceremonies.
British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription
At St Mary of Bethany Church, Quetta married by banns.
First name(s) Emma Edith Last name Weller Marriage year 1922 Marriage date 26 Dec 1922 Spouse's first name James Spouse's last name Burgan, Staff Sergt RASC Place Quetta Presidency Bengal Groom's age 25 Bride's age 20 Groom's father's first name James Groom's father's last name Burgan (deceased) Bride's father's first name - Bride's father's last name - Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948 Archive reference N-1-465 Folio number 167
Witnesses were Leonard Ella and Maurice Sage. Harold Spooner was the Senior Chaplain who performed the ceremony.
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British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription
Married by license at Karachi, ?, Archdiocese of Bombay. RC
First name(s) Emma Edith Last name Weller Marriage year 1923 Marriage date 23 Jun 1923 Spouse's first name James Spouse's last name Burgan RAI? Corps Place Bombay Presidency Bombay Groom's age 25 Bride's age 20 Groom's father's first name Alice B Groom's father's last name James Bride's father's first name Mary W Bride's father's last name Will Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948, : Archive reference N-3-129 Folio number 206 Entry number 3
Witnesses were Maude Kayat? and Daisy Crane. Rev JJ Meyer performed the ceremony.
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Inez
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1 Jan 2015 17:35 |
How strange to have a 2nd ceremony 6 months later! Is there any record of any children being born in India or had they moved to the UK by then? Thank you for all this information. I too have to keep going back and checking all the posts again. I think now that one William Thomas Weller is the wrong one, but not sure if I have the birth of the right one! I had never thought that Weller was a common name until I started looking and to have several of the same name and age is very muddling.
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Kucinta
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1 Jan 2015 18:18 |
No miaden name for mother given, nor forenames for either parent.
However same location as that second marriage ceremony......and note the child's forenames.
First name(s) Emma Edith Last name Burgan Baptism year 1923 Birth year 1923 Place Karachi Presidency Bombay Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Father's first name(s) - Father's last name Burgan Baptism date 1923 Birth date 1923 Archive reference N-3-129 Folio 112 Page - Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948 Record set British India Office births & baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
This child also baptised same year and location, again, no maiden name for mother so purely speculative.
First name(s) James George Last name Burgan Baptism year 1923 Birth year 1923 Place Karachi Presidency Bombay Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Father's first name(s) - Father's last name Burgan Baptism date 1923 Birth date 1923 Archive reference N-3-129 Folio 112 Page - Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948 Record set British India Office births & baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
EDIT: Scrap the baptism, she was born 1902!!!!
Name: Emma Edith Burgan Gender: Female Christening Date: 23 Jun 1923 Christening Place: Karachi, Bombay, India Birth Date: 18 Sep 1902 Father's Name: John Burgan Mother's Name: Jane
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Inez
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1 Jan 2015 19:45 |
Wondering if that baptism was Emma Edith Weller as was, as she was born c1902/3. Think we only found baptism records for the 1st 4 of the family & she was no. 7. Her family were RC but we don't know what this baptism was do we? Would she have had to be baptised/rebaptised CofE if that's where wedding was?
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Inez
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1 Jan 2015 20:22 |
I have now found the birth of 6 more sons in England from 1926-36. Don't know if there are any more in India or any daughters.
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1 Jan 2015 21:26 |
The Church of England will marry anyone who professes to be a Christian. They do not have to be baptised in any denomination. ..........
http://www.stmarysmumbai.com/ourChurch.html St Mary the Virgin, Parel is CoE
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Kucinta
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1 Jan 2015 21:47 |
The baptism is the exact same date as the second marriage ceremony -23rd June 1923, so I suspect you are right and it is Emma Edith Weller as was.
Still the possibility that the James George Burgan also baptised 1923 might be her child.
EDIT: on the baptism transcription, Emma Edith's parents are recorded as John and Jane Burgan, though.
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