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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 25 Dec 2014 09:31

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
116 St Awdrys Road Barking, Barking, Essex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Alfred Daniel Peggs Head Married Male 22 1889 London Rotherithe Assurance Agent Transcription
Lilian Ivy Violet Peggs Wife Married Female 21 1890 Ipton Part - Transcription
Lilian Hannah Marttice Peggs Daughter - Female 1 1910 Ipton Part

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 25 Dec 2014 09:28

Glad you got back to us Effie

The best way to find connections (if any) is to start by researching the name you are sure of


Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)


PEGGS Alfred Daniel W. Ham 4a 479
PUNCHER Lilian Ivy V W. Ham 4a 479
Puncher Lily Ivy V W. Ham 4a 479


Effie

Effie Report 25 Dec 2014 01:11

Sorry I didn't finish this properly as pressed the button by mistake. I would be grateful if you could confirm this and many thanks for your help.
Regards
Effie Lewis

Effie

Effie Report 25 Dec 2014 01:06

Hi I have been going through my GR tree to find out more about the Puncher family and have come across a Puncher in this tree as follows:

John Osband Ott b 1801 Bermondsey London married Anne Desmoulins b. 1804 St Giles Middlesex and they had 11 children to whom one was Sarah Elizabeth Ott b.1830 Rotherhithe and she married Benjamin Acton Wood b.1833 Bermondsey and they had 5 children to whom one was Martha Elizabeth Acton Wood b.1865 Rotherhithe and she married David Peggs b.1855 Chelmsford Essex and had 8 children to one was Alfred Daniel Peggs b.1889 Rotherhithe and he married Lillian Ivy V PUNCHER B.1890 Upton Park Essex and they had 2 girls and 1 boy. I always had agt the back of my mind that Lillian Puncher was related to me as well as the others but I still cannot find any connection with Cyril Frederick Puncher b.1903 Poplar London and his father who was Walter Charles Puncher b.1874 Poplar London.

jax

jax Report 24 Dec 2014 01:50

As you have not said who these punchers are that are in your tree, it makes it almost impossible to find out if there is any connection with this family

Effie

Effie Report 24 Dec 2014 01:27

Thank you for your help regarding the Puncher family. The strange thing is that I did have some Punchers in my tree which I had put down a few years ago. However it only came to my mind that I had a friend called Norma I Puncher b.1935 Maldon Essex and her father was Cyril Frederick Puncher b.1903 Bow (Poplar) London and mother was Clarice E Leighton b. 1911 West Ham London or Essex. They were married in 1934 Wandsworth but did move to Hitchin Hertfordshire where I was also brought up. I have mentioned this to Norma but she does not seem to know much about the ancestors. What I am trying to find out if there are any connections between Cyril Frederick Puncher and the other Puncher's I have in my tree as so far I cannot find any and it would be great if we were related Norma and myself. I have noticed that a few of the Puncher's come from Essex or East London Bow, Poplar and Stepney. It does appear that I am related to the Puncher's that I have on my tree so that is what I am trying to find out about Cyril Frederick Puncher b.1903 and his parents were Walter Charles Puncher b.1874 Poplar London and his wife was Elizabeth Emma Bruce b.1876 Poplar London and they were married 1901 J/F/M Hackney London. I believe Walter's father was James John Puncher b.1847 London and mother was Sarah M Staples b. abt 1847 London and were married J/F/M 1867 Shoreditch London.
Many thanks for your help and have a nice Christmas
Regards
Effie Lewis (nee Ott)

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 14:48

British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records

name(s) Cyril Frederick Puncher
Birth date 25 Feb 1903
Birth parish Bow
Birth town London
Birth county Middlesex
Attestation date 05 Sep 1921 (entry into RAF)
Attestation age 18
Service number 349599
Archive reference AIR 79/2894
Religious Denomination: Church of England
Next of Kin: Mrs W C Puncher (mother)
Record set British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 10:22

Somewhat 'out' on this birth......did you use freebmd?

PUNCHER CLARIES EILEEN 1911 1970 1970 Deaths & burials Maldon, Essex, England

First name(s) CLARICE E
Last name LEIGHTON
Birth year 1911
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name COOK
District WEST HAM
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Page 477

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:54

First name(s) CHARLES RIDLEY
Last name OTT
Gender Male
Age 87
Birth year 1852
Occupation RETIRED
Departure year 1939
Departure day 15
Departure month 7
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port MONTREAL
Destination MONTREAL
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name ASCANIA
Ship official number 147037
Ship master's first name G R
Ship master's last name POPE
Shipping line CUNARD WHITE STAR LIMITED
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship registered tonnage 8437
Number of passengers 277

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:50

1881

Name: Chas Ott
Age (Original): 4
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: Old Kent Rd, Middlesex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Status: Single
Address: 42 Ellerdale Street
Event Place: Lewisham, Kent, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 733 / 54
Page Number: 33
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Chas Ott Head M 29 Walworth, Surrey, England
Hannah Ott Wife F 25 Brackley, Northamptonshire, England
Chas Ott Son M 4 Old Kent Rd, Middlesex, England
Wm Ott Son M 2 Walworth
Alfred Ott Son M 0 Lewisham, Kent, England
GS Film number: 1341171


Name: Charles Ridley Ott
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1875
Registration District: Greenwich
County: London
Event Place: Greenwich, London, England
Volume: 1D
Page: 1225
Line Number: 218

Charles Ridley Ott married Hannah Elizabeth Ford

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:44

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Mount Street, Devonport, Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Williams Head Married Male 46 1855 Bandsman R N Appledore, Devon, England Transcription
Emily Williams Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Redruth, Cornwall, England Transcription
Laura Williams Daughter Single Female 16 1885 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
Ethel G Williams Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
Ethel A Williams Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
William J Williams Son - Male 12 1889 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
Ellen C Williams Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription
Frederick D Williams Son - Male 2 1899 - Devonport, Devon, England Transcription
John Brown Boarder Single Male 61 1840 Pensioner R N Chelsea, Middlesex, England Transcription
George Howard Boarder Single Male 39 1862 Assistant Boiler Maker H M Dockyard Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription
Charles Ott Boarder Single Male 22 1879 Bandsman R N Walworth, Surrey, England Transcription
William Hosking Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Bandsman R N Battersea, Middlesex, England Transcription



OTT CHARLES THOMAS 1877 — 1877 Births & baptisms St. Saviour Southwark, London, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:40


Marriages Mar 1935 (>99%)

Farr Constance E I Ott Luton 3b 714
Ott Charles W L Farr Luton 3b 714


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
9 Caroline Place E Stonehouse, East Stonehouse, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Charles T Ott Head Married Male 33 1878 London Southwark Musician R M B Royal Navy Transcription
Ethel G Ott Wife Married Female 25 1886 Devon Dartmouth - Transcription
Ethel R Ott Daughter - Female 7 1904 Devon Devonport - Transcription
Ivy M Ott Daughter - Female 5 1906 Devon Devonport - Transcription
Charles W L Ott Son - Male 3 1908 Devon Devonport


First name(s) CHARLES THOMAS
Last name OTT
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1903
CHARLES THOMAS OTT married
ETHEL GLADYS WILLIAMS,
District DEVONPORT
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B Page 773

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
32 Peach St: Luton Bedfordshire, Luton, Bedfordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Frank Fitzjohn Farr Head Married Male 27 1884 Luton Beds Cost Clerk Transcription
Minnie Farr Wife Married Female 27 1884 Hitwick Beds Straw Hat Machinist Transcription
Aubrey Frank Farr Son - Male 6 1905 Luton Beds - Transcription
Constance Edna Irene Farr Daughter - Female 2 1909 Luton Beds - Transcription


Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)

Farr Frank Fitzjohn Luton 3b 868
Stringer Minnie Luton 3b 868

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 23 Dec 2014 09:33

Please tell us which Punchers you think you ARE related to......we can't help to connect the ones you name unless you give us all the details

As your birth name was OTT, and your mother's maiden name was FARR, the link to Puncher must be in an earlier generation..............IF one exists

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 07:22

Family in 1841:

Name: Maria Punchard
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Portsea Town
Hundred: Portsmouth Borough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport and Southern
Piece: 414
Book: 1
Folio: 53
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
William Punchard 25
Maria Punchard 25
William Punchard 3
John Punchard 1

Based on eldest son (William) being born Hampshire c1838/9 this could be marriage of parents:

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name PUNCHARD
Marriage year 1837
Marriage day 31
Marriage month Jul
Place LYMINGTON
Groom's first name William
Groom's last name Punchard
Bride's first name Maria
Bride's last name Leaver
Parish Lymington
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set Hampshire Marriages

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 07:10

And James with his family in 1851:

Name: William Buncher
[William Puncher]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Buncher
Gender: Male
Where born: Shobrook, Devon, England
[Shobrooke,Devon,England]
Civil Parish: St Luke Old Street
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: St Luke
Sub-registration district: Finsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Piece: 1523
Folio: 279
Page Number: 28
William Buncher 36 Devon
Maria Buncher 34 Salisbury, Wiltshire
William Buncher 12 Fordingbridge, Hampshire, England
James Buncher 4 Middlesex, St Lukes
Joseph Buncher 10 Mo Cripplegate, London

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 07:07

Based on his sister Catherine listed on the 1871 this looks like her and family in 1861:

Name: William Puncher
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Puncher
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: St Sepulchre
Town: Middlesex
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Saffron Hill
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 242
Piece: 188
Folio: 77
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
William Puncher 45
Maria Puncher 43
Joseph Puncher 10
Sarah Puncher 8
Julia Puncher 5
Catherine Puncher 2

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 06:55

1871:

James Puncher Head - Male 24 1847 - London, Middlesex, England
Sarah Puncher Wife - Female 23 1848 - Middlesex, England
Transcription
James T Puncher Son - Male 4 1867 - Middlesex, England
Sarah E Puncher Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Middlesex,
Julia M Puncher Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Middlesex, England
Catherine Puncher Sister - Female 13 1858 - Middlesex, England

Street Driffield Road
Parish St Mary
County London, Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Poplar
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 577
Folio 102
Page 3
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Gritty

Gritty Report 23 Dec 2014 06:51

Not sure what info you're after? Which Puncher family are you trying to link them to?

1881

James J Punchard Head Married Male 34 1847 Fancy Box Maker (Paper) Buckinghamshire,
Sarah Punchard Wife Married Female 33 1848 Wife Of Fancy Box Maker (Paper) City of London, Middlesex,
James J Jnr Punchard Son Single Male 14 1867 Clerk City of London, Middlesex,
Julia M Punchard Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar City of London, Middlesex,
Walter C Punchard Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar City of London, Middlesex,
Albert W Punchard Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar City of London, Middlesex,
Edwin J Punchard Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar City of London, Middlesex,
Maude A Punchard Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - City of London, Middlesex, England
Caroline Davis Lodger Single Female 33 1848 Machinist City of London, Middlesex,

House number 23
Street Driffield Road
Parish Bow Aka St Mary Stratford-Le-Bow
County London, Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Poplar
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 491
Folio 40
Page 3
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Dec 2014 05:46

Death

First name(s) WALTER C
Last name PUNCHER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1874
Age 72
Death quarter 1
Death year 1946
District MALDON
County Essex
Volume 4A
Page 1026

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Dec 2014 05:45

1891 census
Driffield Road, Bow or Stratford Le Bow, Poplar, London, England

James J Puncher Head Married Male 44 1847 Card Box Cutter Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Sarah M Puncher Wife Married Female 43 1848 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England

James J Puncher Son Single Male 24 1867 Card Factory Clerk Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Julia M Puncher Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Card Factory Maker Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Walter C Puncher Son Single Male 17 1874 Card Factory Cutter Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Albert Puncher Son - Male 15 1876 Errand Boy Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Edwin Puncher Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Horace Puncher Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England

Alfred Puncher Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England

John F Puncher Son - Male 0 1891 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England