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23 Dec 2014 01:16 |
I would appreciate if you could possibly help me to find out about the Puncher family as I seem to be related to them but cannot find out if these people are related to me Cyril F Puncher b.1903 Poplar London he married Clarice E Leighton b. c 1904 London or Essex they were married O/N/D 1934 Wandsworth London, Cyril's father was William Charles Puncher b.14/11/1874 Poplar London, he married Elizabeth Emma Bruce b.1876 Poplar London, they were married J/F/M 1901 Hackney London. I also believe that Walter Charles Puncher's father was James John Puncher b. c.1842 London and he married Sarah M Staples b.c 1843 London and they were married J/F/M 1867 Shoreditch London. I have been trying to find out about this family for a few weeks but do not seem to get anywhere so please could you help me if possible. Thank you Regards Effie Lewis (nee Ott)
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23 Dec 2014 02:39 |
You seem to know a lot about them so what is it you want to know?
Do you have access to Ancestry ? if so there is a tree on there with this family
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23 Dec 2014 05:34 |
I am not sure where you are wanting to go with this enquiry You seem to have done some research so what exactly are you looking for now please? :-)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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23 Dec 2014 05:38 |
1911 census
30 Driffield Road Roman Road Bow E, Poplar Borough, London, England
Walter C Puncher Head Married Male 37 1874 Bow London Card Board Box Manufactures
Elizabeth E Puncher Wife Married Female 35 1876 Poplar London -
Leonard C Puncher Son - Male 9 1902 South Hackney London -
Cyril F Puncher Son - Male 8 1903 Bow London -
Harold A Puncher Son - Male 5 1906 Bow London -
Married 10 years 3 children born
Note father is Walter not William
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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23 Dec 2014 05:42 |
1901 census 12, Rockmead Road, Hackney, London, England
Walter C Puncher Head Married Male 27 1874 Fancy Box Maker Bow, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth E Puncher Wife - Female 25 1876 - Cubitt Town, London, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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23 Dec 2014 05:45 |
1891 census Driffield Road, Bow or Stratford Le Bow, Poplar, London, England
James J Puncher Head Married Male 44 1847 Card Box Cutter Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Sarah M Puncher Wife Married Female 43 1848 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England
James J Puncher Son Single Male 24 1867 Card Factory Clerk Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Julia M Puncher Daughter Single Female 19 1872 Card Factory Maker Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Walter C Puncher Son Single Male 17 1874 Card Factory Cutter Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Albert Puncher Son - Male 15 1876 Errand Boy Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Edwin Puncher Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Horace Puncher Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England
Alfred Puncher Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Old Ford, Middlesex, England
John F Puncher Son - Male 0 1891 - Old Ford, Middlesex, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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23 Dec 2014 05:46 |
Death
First name(s) WALTER C Last name PUNCHER Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1874 Age 72 Death quarter 1 Death year 1946 District MALDON County Essex Volume 4A Page 1026
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Gritty
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23 Dec 2014 06:51 |
Not sure what info you're after? Which Puncher family are you trying to link them to?
1881
James J Punchard Head Married Male 34 1847 Fancy Box Maker (Paper) Buckinghamshire, Sarah Punchard Wife Married Female 33 1848 Wife Of Fancy Box Maker (Paper) City of London, Middlesex, James J Jnr Punchard Son Single Male 14 1867 Clerk City of London, Middlesex, Julia M Punchard Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar City of London, Middlesex, Walter C Punchard Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar City of London, Middlesex, Albert W Punchard Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar City of London, Middlesex, Edwin J Punchard Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar City of London, Middlesex, Maude A Punchard Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - City of London, Middlesex, England Caroline Davis Lodger Single Female 33 1848 Machinist City of London, Middlesex,
House number 23 Street Driffield Road Parish Bow Aka St Mary Stratford-Le-Bow County London, Middlesex Country England Registration district Poplar Archive reference RG11 Piece number 491 Folio 40 Page 3 Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Gritty
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23 Dec 2014 06:55 |
1871:
James Puncher Head - Male 24 1847 - London, Middlesex, England Sarah Puncher Wife - Female 23 1848 - Middlesex, England Transcription James T Puncher Son - Male 4 1867 - Middlesex, England Sarah E Puncher Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Middlesex, Julia M Puncher Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Middlesex, England Catherine Puncher Sister - Female 13 1858 - Middlesex, England
Street Driffield Road Parish St Mary County London, Middlesex Country England Registration district Poplar Archive reference RG10 Piece number 577 Folio 102 Page 3 Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Gritty
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23 Dec 2014 07:07 |
Based on his sister Catherine listed on the 1871 this looks like her and family in 1861:
Name: William Puncher Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Puncher Gender: Male Where born: Devon, England Civil Parish: St Sepulchre Town: Middlesex County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Holborn Sub-registration district: Saffron Hill ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 242 Piece: 188 Folio: 77 Page Number: 38 Household Members: Name Age William Puncher 45 Maria Puncher 43 Joseph Puncher 10 Sarah Puncher 8 Julia Puncher 5 Catherine Puncher 2
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Gritty
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23 Dec 2014 07:10 |
And James with his family in 1851:
Name: William Buncher [William Puncher] Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Buncher Gender: Male Where born: Shobrook, Devon, England [Shobrooke,Devon,England] Civil Parish: St Luke Old Street Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: St Luke Sub-registration district: Finsbury ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 120 Piece: 1523 Folio: 279 Page Number: 28 William Buncher 36 Devon Maria Buncher 34 Salisbury, Wiltshire William Buncher 12 Fordingbridge, Hampshire, England James Buncher 4 Middlesex, St Lukes Joseph Buncher 10 Mo Cripplegate, London
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Gritty
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23 Dec 2014 07:22 |
Family in 1841:
Name: Maria Punchard Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Civil Parish: Portsea Town Hundred: Portsmouth Borough County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Portsea Island Sub-registration district: Landport and Southern Piece: 414 Book: 1 Folio: 53 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age William Punchard 25 Maria Punchard 25 William Punchard 3 John Punchard 1
Based on eldest son (William) being born Hampshire c1838/9 this could be marriage of parents:
First name(s) WILLIAM Last name PUNCHARD Marriage year 1837 Marriage day 31 Marriage month Jul Place LYMINGTON Groom's first name William Groom's last name Punchard Bride's first name Maria Bride's last name Leaver Parish Lymington County Hampshire Country England Record set Hampshire Marriages
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Jacqueline
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23 Dec 2014 09:33 |
Please tell us which Punchers you think you ARE related to......we can't help to connect the ones you name unless you give us all the details
As your birth name was OTT, and your mother's maiden name was FARR, the link to Puncher must be in an earlier generation..............IF one exists
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Jacqueline
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23 Dec 2014 09:40 |
Marriages Mar 1935 (>99%)
Farr Constance E I Ott Luton 3b 714 Ott Charles W L Farr Luton 3b 714
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 9 Caroline Place E Stonehouse, East Stonehouse, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Charles T Ott Head Married Male 33 1878 London Southwark Musician R M B Royal Navy Transcription Ethel G Ott Wife Married Female 25 1886 Devon Dartmouth - Transcription Ethel R Ott Daughter - Female 7 1904 Devon Devonport - Transcription Ivy M Ott Daughter - Female 5 1906 Devon Devonport - Transcription Charles W L Ott Son - Male 3 1908 Devon Devonport
First name(s) CHARLES THOMAS Last name OTT Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1903 CHARLES THOMAS OTT married ETHEL GLADYS WILLIAMS, District DEVONPORT County Devon Country England Volume 5B Page 773
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 32 Peach St: Luton Bedfordshire, Luton, Bedfordshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Frank Fitzjohn Farr Head Married Male 27 1884 Luton Beds Cost Clerk Transcription Minnie Farr Wife Married Female 27 1884 Hitwick Beds Straw Hat Machinist Transcription Aubrey Frank Farr Son - Male 6 1905 Luton Beds - Transcription Constance Edna Irene Farr Daughter - Female 2 1909 Luton Beds - Transcription
Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)
Farr Frank Fitzjohn Luton 3b 868 Stringer Minnie Luton 3b 868
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Jacqueline
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23 Dec 2014 09:44 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 6, Mount Street, Devonport, Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Williams Head Married Male 46 1855 Bandsman R N Appledore, Devon, England Transcription Emily Williams Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Redruth, Cornwall, England Transcription Laura Williams Daughter Single Female 16 1885 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription Ethel G Williams Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription Ethel A Williams Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription William J Williams Son - Male 12 1889 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription Ellen C Williams Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Dartmouth, Devon, England Transcription Frederick D Williams Son - Male 2 1899 - Devonport, Devon, England Transcription John Brown Boarder Single Male 61 1840 Pensioner R N Chelsea, Middlesex, England Transcription George Howard Boarder Single Male 39 1862 Assistant Boiler Maker H M Dockyard Hackney, Middlesex, England Transcription Charles Ott Boarder Single Male 22 1879 Bandsman R N Walworth, Surrey, England Transcription William Hosking Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Bandsman R N Battersea, Middlesex, England Transcription
OTT CHARLES THOMAS 1877 — 1877 Births & baptisms St. Saviour Southwark, London, England
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Jacqueline
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23 Dec 2014 09:50 |
1881
Name: Chas Ott Age (Original): 4 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1877 Birthplace: Old Kent Rd, Middlesex, England Relationship to Head of Household: Son Marital Status: Single Address: 42 Ellerdale Street Event Place: Lewisham, Kent, England Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 733 / 54 Page Number: 33 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Chas Ott Head M 29 Walworth, Surrey, England Hannah Ott Wife F 25 Brackley, Northamptonshire, England Chas Ott Son M 4 Old Kent Rd, Middlesex, England Wm Ott Son M 2 Walworth Alfred Ott Son M 0 Lewisham, Kent, England GS Film number: 1341171
Name: Charles Ridley Ott Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year: 1875 Registration District: Greenwich County: London Event Place: Greenwich, London, England Volume: 1D Page: 1225 Line Number: 218 Charles Ridley Ott married Hannah Elizabeth Ford
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Jacqueline
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23 Dec 2014 09:54 |
First name(s) CHARLES RIDLEY Last name OTT Gender Male Age 87 Birth year 1852 Occupation RETIRED Departure year 1939 Departure day 15 Departure month 7 Departure port SOUTHAMPTON Destination port MONTREAL Destination MONTREAL Country CANADA Destination country CANADA Ship name ASCANIA Ship official number 147037 Ship master's first name G R Ship master's last name POPE Shipping line CUNARD WHITE STAR LIMITED City SOUTHAMPTON Ship destination port MONTREAL Ship destination country CANADA Ship registered tonnage 8437 Number of passengers 277
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Jacqueline
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23 Dec 2014 10:22 |
Somewhat 'out' on this birth......did you use freebmd?
PUNCHER CLARIES EILEEN 1911 1970 1970 Deaths & burials Maldon, Essex, England
First name(s) CLARICE E Last name LEIGHTON Birth year 1911 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name COOK District WEST HAM County Essex Country England Volume 4A Page 477
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Gritty
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23 Dec 2014 14:48 |
British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records
name(s) Cyril Frederick Puncher Birth date 25 Feb 1903 Birth parish Bow Birth town London Birth county Middlesex Attestation date 05 Sep 1921 (entry into RAF) Attestation age 18 Service number 349599 Archive reference AIR 79/2894 Religious Denomination: Church of England Next of Kin: Mrs W C Puncher (mother) Record set British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939
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Effie
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24 Dec 2014 01:27 |
Thank you for your help regarding the Puncher family. The strange thing is that I did have some Punchers in my tree which I had put down a few years ago. However it only came to my mind that I had a friend called Norma I Puncher b.1935 Maldon Essex and her father was Cyril Frederick Puncher b.1903 Bow (Poplar) London and mother was Clarice E Leighton b. 1911 West Ham London or Essex. They were married in 1934 Wandsworth but did move to Hitchin Hertfordshire where I was also brought up. I have mentioned this to Norma but she does not seem to know much about the ancestors. What I am trying to find out if there are any connections between Cyril Frederick Puncher and the other Puncher's I have in my tree as so far I cannot find any and it would be great if we were related Norma and myself. I have noticed that a few of the Puncher's come from Essex or East London Bow, Poplar and Stepney. It does appear that I am related to the Puncher's that I have on my tree so that is what I am trying to find out about Cyril Frederick Puncher b.1903 and his parents were Walter Charles Puncher b.1874 Poplar London and his wife was Elizabeth Emma Bruce b.1876 Poplar London and they were married 1901 J/F/M Hackney London. I believe Walter's father was James John Puncher b.1847 London and mother was Sarah M Staples b. abt 1847 London and were married J/F/M 1867 Shoreditch London. Many thanks for your help and have a nice Christmas Regards Effie Lewis (nee Ott)
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