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I know ................. it's difficult, isn't it?

Incredible but that was the time I started my tree and found out the same thing. The Baileys and Lasletts and priority with me as they are my grandparents side and I thoroughly enjoy finding out more information on them. I have two cousins in 1929 and they have two children born in the 50's I would so love to find out more. I keep trying but I really don't have proof.
Julia

Julia


you're very welcome


My grandfather never mentioned having any siblings .......................... I didn't know until I started this family history lark about 10 years ago!

Thank you Sylvia, you have done so much and I really appreciate it. My goodness in those days they had so many children, I lived with my grandparents for sixteen years and not once did my grandfather mention his family of which I found he had ten siblings. I am trying my hardest to find the younger generation but it is very difficult.
Hi Gwyn, I think I have been in communication with you before and you helped me then. I will just have to sort everything out, didn't get a chance last night & out shopping this morning
Thank you will do so shortly.
Julia

Thank you Sylvia, you have done so much and I really appreciate it. My goodness in those days they had so many children, I lived with my grandparents for sixteen years and not once did my grandfather mention his family of which I found he had ten siblings. I am trying my hardest to find the younger generation but it is very difficult.
Hi Gwyn, I think I have been in communication with you before and you helped me then. I will just have to sort everything out, didn't get a chance last night & out shopping this morning
Thank you will do so shortly.
Julia

I can check films of parish registers for Newington / Elham / Lyminge and that area at Folkestone library , if it will be of any help.
They do not hold information for all of Kent, just the surrounding area.

Click on my name and send a message outlining what you would like found, if you wish.

Gwyn

I'm off to bed!

it's almost 11:30 pm here



see you tomorrow, maybe

I also came across a Probate Record for a Shadrach James Bailey, born Newington in ca 1883 ....................... he HAS to be related, but I can't find him with a family!



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Shadrach James Bailey
Registration Year: 1882
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Elham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1025




of course!!!


It is Shadrach and Eliza's son, shown as James in the 1891 Census


doh!

1911 Census

Name: Shadrach Bailey
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Elham, Kent
Civil Parish: Sellinge and Monks Horton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Stone Hill, Sellindge, Hythe
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer On Farm
Registration district: Elham
Registration District Number: 66
Sub-registration district: Hythe
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 131
Piece: 4669

Shadrach Bailey 50
Eliza Bailey 52 b.ca 1859, Staffordshire
Alfred Bailey 15
Reggie Bailey 12
Frederick Martin 25 Boarder


from image

Married 29 years
16 children born, 11 still living, 5 died



lordy ........... she was a busy lady!!!!

she was a busy woman!!


1901 Census

Name: Shadrack Bailey
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Eliza Bailey
Birth Place: Elham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Hythe
ED, institution, or vessel: 04

Piece: 853
Folio: 54
Page Number: 9
Household schedule number: 57

Shadrack Bailey 40 Waggoner on Farm (Ag Horse)
Eliza Bailey 42 b.ca 1859, Staffordshire
Emily E Bailey 15 b.ca 1886, Arpinge, Kent, Housemaid (Domestic)
Thomas H Bailey 14 b.ca 1887, Arpinge, Farm Yard Boy (Ag Lab)
William F Bailey 12 b.ca 1889, Arpinge
Annie B Bailey 11 b.ca 1890, Arpinge
Sidney J Bailey 9 b.ca 1892, Arpinge
John S Bailey 9 b.ca 1892, Arpinge
Alfred Bailey 5 b.ca 1896, Newington
Edith E Bailey 3 b.ca 1898, Newington
Reginald A Bailey 2 b.ca 1899, Newington
Charles R Bailey 5/12 b.ca 1900, Newington
James Wright 36 Boarder

Address:- Newington Street

Hi


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915

Name: Shadrach Bailey
Registration Year: 1881
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Elham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1795
Records on Page:
Name
Shadrach Bailey
Sarah Elizabeth Lewis
George Morris
>>>>> Eliza Thompson



a number of children :-)

1891 Census

Name: Shadrack Bailey
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Bailey
Gender: Male
Where born: Elham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Lyminge
Ecclesiastical parish: Newington
Town: Newington
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Elham
Sub registration district: Hythe
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Piece: 753
Folio: 35
Page Number: 4

Shadrack Bailey 30 Ag Lab
Eliza Bailey 32 b.ca 1859, Mafford, Staffordshire <<<< has been corrected to Stafford, Staffordshire
Arthur Bailey 11 b.ca 1880, Nottinghamshire
James Bailey 8 b.ca 1883, Newington
Emily Bailey 5 b.ca 1886, Newington
Thomas Bailey 4 b.ca 1887, Newington
William Bailey 2 b.ca 1889, Newington
Annie Bailey 1 b.ca 1890, Newington
Thomas Waters 28 Boarder

Address:- Arpinge (?? spelling)


I wonder if Arthur was Eliza's child born before their marriage?

Hi Sylvia, me again. I am looking up Shadrach Bailey, I think he was married to Eliza Thompson in 1881 Can't find anything myself so wondered if you could look up 1891 Census please and see if they had any children. He was born 1861 Elham Kent
Thanks

Thanks Sylvia, I agree they do sound a bit weird. Am trying to put it all together now. Julia

Hi


just type a message in the reply box!

I'll see it 'cos it will show in My Threads that there has been another post since the last time I looked.



it just seems a very confusing, and confused, family :-)

Sorry this has taken a while but I did answer Page 1 and posted it before I realised that there was a page 2. This is absolutely great, really appreciate it. I am going to write it all down which will make it easier for me to check out. I have everything all over the place at the moment.
Much appreciated
One thing could you please tell me what I have to do to put the link on my message so that you know I have replied.
Julia

???????????


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Stephen John Gilham
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 Apr 1858
Baptism Place: Elham, Kent, England
Mother: Frances Gilham
FHL Film Number: 1836029
Reference ID: 179


Emily Eliza had a sister Frances


1861 Census

Name: Frances Gilham
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: 1835
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Elham, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Elham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Elham
Sub-registration district: Elham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2

Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 553
Folio: 24
Page Number: 10

Richard Court 54 Farmer of 196 acres, employing 2 men
Clement Court 47
Elizabeth Court 59
Frances Gilham 26 Domestic Servant
William Laslett 24 Waggoner
William Scott 24 Waggoner's Mate
John Amos 20 Second Ploughman
William Finnis 16 Second Ploughboy

Address:- Winterage

according to several family trees on ancestry, Emily Bailey was also Emily Eliza



Emily Eliza Bailey
Birth Oct 1866 in Newington Near Hythe, Kent
Death 17 Jul 1931 in Folkestone, Kent, England

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Edith Ellen Hood
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 1 Nov 1874
Baptism Place: Newington-next-Hythe, Kent, England
Father: William Hood
Mother: Emily Eliza Hood
FHL Film Number: 1835534

It looks as though Edith was the only child of Emily and William


but I had to smile when I finally found them in the 1891 :-)


1891 Census

Name: Emily Eliza Hord
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Hord
Gender: Female
Where born: Sergse, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Lyminge
Ecclesiastical parish: Lyminge
Town: Lyminge
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Elham
Sub registration district: Elham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Piece: 752
Folio: 46
Page Number: 11

William Hord 60 b.ca 1831, Lyminge, Kent, Carrier and Wood Dealer
Emily Eliza Hord 49 Dressmaker
Edith Ellen Hord 16 b.ca 1875, Newington, General Help (Domestic)

Address:- Shuttlesfield (???spelling), Tan Barn


I have checked bmds ............... but trees on ancestry say that Edith Ellen died in 1895.


I have sent in Alternate Information re name being Hood

This is Emily in 1881 with her second husband William Hood

1881 Census

Name: William Hood
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Emily Hood
Gender: Male
Where born: Lyminge, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Lyminge
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Shuttlefield
Marital Status: Married

Occupation: Wood Dealer
Registration district: Elham
Sub registration district: Elham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Piece: 1012
Folio: 46
Page Number: 6

William Hood 50
Emily Hood 40 b.ca 1841, Acrise, Kent
Richard Hood 18 b.ca 1863, Newington, Son, General Labourer
Shadrach Bailey 20 b.ca 1861, Elham, Kent, Stepson, General Labourer
Henry Bailey 17 b.ca 1864, Newington, Stepson, Horse Driver (Ag Lab)
Emily Bailey 15 b.ca 1866, Newington, Stepdaughter, Mother's Help (Domestic)
James Bailey 12 b.ca 1869, Newington, Stepson, Scholar
Edith Hood 6 b.ca 1875, Newington, Daughter, Scholar
Arther Thompson 2 b.ca 1879, Nottinghamshire, Nurse Child