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hi I am looking for [Katie neat] born 1894 in care filly south wales she is the mother of my wife mother 1914allso born carefilly got birth cert but only shows mother name no father name
she was adopted so been told but have the ones who adopted her no longer alive and my wife halfe brother as past away any help need many thanks [CH] EVERY TIME I DO THIS I ALWAYS MAKE A MESS OF THING SORRY IF I HAVE

Is Neat her adopted name or her birth name please?

well if theres no father shown on the birth cert the she was illegitimate what is the daughters name ?? maybe we can work back from there


FreeBMD and FMP isnt showing any possible records

As a starting point CH has this lady in his tree

Hida Neate 1914 Caerphilly Mid Glamo...

edit but no Hilda Neate born 1914

strange if CH has the birth cert

Can you give the details please CH from that cert

Just a guess? but it's not Caerphilly

Births Jun 1894 (>99%)

Neate Kathleen Daisy P Newport, M. 11a 198

Edit doubt it's this one, there is a tree on Ancestry that has her marriage and children etc,

Just a thought......


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
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NEALE Hilda M Neale Pontypridd 11a 1297


Andy

1911 Wales Census
about Kate Neat


Name:Kate Neat
Age in 1911:21
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1890
Relation to Head:Servant
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Taff's Well, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:Eglwysilan
County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales
Street address:Abertridwr Hotel Abertridwr Cardiff Glam
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:Domestic
Registration district:Pontypridd
Registration District Number:589
Sub-registration district:Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel:31
Household schedule number:223
Piece:32241
Household Members:
Name
Age


William Morgan 39
Georgina Morgan 40
Florance Morgan 8
William Thomas Morgan 3
>>>>>> Kate Neat 21
Annie Maud Neat 17
Elizabeth Ellis 16


and who is Annie Maud Neat??


Andy

Maybe????

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Need Alice Kate Pontypridd 11a 416


Andy

I wonder if Kate Neat being CH's wife's grandmother, he has got the birth cert. of his wife's mother - not Kate's.

Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
Neat Annie Maud Pontypridd 11a 473

This might be Annie in 1901, says neale on image but might just be a case of an uncrossed t?

1901 Wales Census about Annie Neale
Name: Annie Neale
Age in 1901: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Neale
Mother's name: Emily Neale
Gender: Female
Where born: Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Pontypridd
Ecclesiastical parish: Eglwysilan
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Piece: 4999
Folio: 44
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
George Neale 42
Emily Neale 37
Edith Neale 12
Rose Neale 11
Beatrice Neale 9
Annie Neale 7
Florence Neale 2
Sidney J Neale 1 Month
Isaac Thomas 63


View original image

On the census above posted by RR, 'Rose' is actually Kate and the enumerator hasn't crossed a single t.

Same family 1891



1891 Wales Census
about Alice Kate Neate


Name:Alice Kate Neate
Age:1
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1890
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:George Neate
Mother's name:Emily Neate
Gender:Female
Where born:Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:Eglwysilan
Ecclesiastical parish:St Martin
Town:Rhydyboithan
County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales
Street address:View image
Condition as to marriage:View image
Education:View image
Employment status:View image
Occupation:View image
Registration district:Pontypridd
Sub registration district:Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel:14
Neighbors:
View others on page
Piece:4411
Folio:100
Page Number:6
Household Members:
Name
Age

George Neate 32
Emily Neate 24
Edith Neate 2
Alice Kate Neate 1


Andy

So it is Andy, well spotted ! :-)

Misheard?

Births Jun 1890 (>99%)

Need Alice Kate Pontypridd 11a 416

EDIT sorry Andy, I've just seen that you have already posted this :-)

Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
Davies William Neate Pontypridd 11a 977
Neate Katie Davies Pontypridd 11a 977

??

Deaths Sep 1919 (>99%)
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Davies Kate 30 Pontypridd 11a 424


Maybe not, there are Davies/Neat births until 1922


Andy

C.H] Report 7 Nov 2009 13:57

hi one &all]
let me put things right as it is all confuesin the one's i been trying to find are as flowers ]
mary hilda neat [B]1914 carephilly her mother [katie neat carephilly]

next one [ernest [thomas pearce] [B] 1914 where don/t know

but have just got is wedding cert he were married in 1939 to hilda mary neat] it showed the address he was liveing at at the time of his marrage
was at [VINEYARD COTTAGE CHARLTTON KINGS CHELTENHAM GLOUS] he died in 1967 was killed by a hit and run driver]

the next person i am looking for is his father [ ernest edward pearce
on the wedding cert it had him down as being dead in 1939 so don't know where he was born or died ???
so i hope this will celar things up with the ones who helps me
kinds regards ant[CH]XX


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/perace%20%20r.e/thread/983098

Chris :)

(if above relates with things!)


Marriages Jun 1939 (>99%)
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Neate Hilda M Pearce Bridgend 11a 1549
Pearce Thomas E Neate Bridgend 11a 1549

Gosh you don't make it easy she is Mary Hilda then Hilda Mary on marriage cert

Do you actually have her birth cert ? As there,s no record coming up for her

Just for our ref

Marriages Jun 1939 (>99%)
Neate Hilda M Pearce Bridgend 11a 1549
Pearce Thomas E Neate Bridgend 11a 1549

Where did Thomas Ernest die please CH, so we can work backwards