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Charles Checkley who married Eliza Grubb was my Great Grandfather, my Grandmother was born as Marion Checkley in 1887 who married Oliver Parker Holmes in Dec 1925, my father was Brian Holmes born 1927 died in 2011. Grandmother died in 1977.

Charles Checkley had Three sons Francis Henry born in 1879, Walter Arthur 1883 - 1941, and Herbert 1885 - 1939, Walter & Herbert never married and both lived with my Grandmother until their deaths, both were soldiers.

Charles was a soldier and moved around the country including Ireland where one of his children was born, he settled in Leeds and was at Carlton Barracks where he retired and all his children made their lives. I have a clock which was presented to him on his retirement as Colour Sargent which has been passed down the family

Charles according to records had a son called Charles Frederick who was baptised on 21st January 1876, but have not found any details about, and my Grandmother never mentioned him.

Eliza Checkley (Grubb) lived to the early 1950s, but had died before I was born in 1954.

John Holmes

Frances, if you're sure that Eliza Grubb is the correct spouse then the army records mention her. I have no doubt that the man in the army records (which were from FindMyPast) is the same man as in the 1841 & 1851 census posted.

You have had all the available info about Charles and Job and Eleanor on several occasions.

You may just need to accept it for what it is, and understand that he lied about his age in later years, as was suggested much earlier on in this thread

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Butt Hill, Napton on the Hill, Southam, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Job Checkley Male 30 1811 Warwickshire, England
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Eleanor Checkley Female 25 1816 Warwickshire, England
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Charles Checkley Male 2 1839 Warwickshire, England

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) Job
Last name Cheekley
Name note -
Marriage year 1828
Marriage date 14 Oct 1828
Marriage place Clifton Upon Dunsmore,Warwick,England
Father's first name(s) -
Father's last name -
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Spouse's first name(s) Eleanor
Spouse's last name Patchett
Spouse's father's fist name(s) -
Spouse's father's last name -
Spouse's mother's first name(s) -
Spouse's mother's last name -
Place Clifton Upon Dunsmore
County Warwickshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Looking back through my file I see that the place I started from was :-

1901 Census
18, Carlton Mount, Leeds, Yorkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Checkley Head Married Male 58 1843 Armourer Warwickshire
Eliza Checkley Wife Married Female 51 1850 - Bedworth, Warwickshire
Francis W Checkley Son Single Male 21 1880 Saddler Ireland Transcription
Walter A Checkley Son Single Male 18 1883 House Decorator Leeds, Yorkshire
Herbert Checkley Son Single Male 16 1885 Butcher Leeds, Yorkshire
Marian Checkley Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Tea Weigher & Packer Leeds, Yorkshire

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Deaths Mar 1911
Checkley Charles 68 Leeds
9b 271

Of course it's me not understanding what I am looking at and I have now seen the 'Attestation' info. How he can be 16 and 20 at the same time is probably ' Family Knowledge' being a bit astray. May be, while in the army he had a bump on the head that made him 2 years younger for the rest of his life?

Jacqueline I have read through this thread end to end but I am failing to see the enlistment date. It is probably me not reading it right but could you possibly be more specific?

he enlisted in 1860...................read the info posted above

Hi Jacqueline, yes he gave his father's name as Job when he married in Jan 1872

Name: Charles Checkley occ Sergeant 22nd Regiment
Birth Year: abt 1842
Age: 30
Residence: Napton Warwickshire
Spouse Name: Eliza Grubb occ Domestic Servant
Spouse Age: 22
Residence: Bedworth
Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Jan 1872
Event Type: Marriage
Parish: Bedworth
Father Name: Job Checkley occ Labourer
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Grubb occ (something) Maker

You will see Charles said he was 30 hence birth 1842!

Sorry Marie Celeste but we seem to be back on the old track of the Charles born 1838 not 1841-43. My biggest worry now is that his mother was not actually married to a Job at the time of Charles birth and that she was too ashamed (or a heathen) to get him christened.
The family story is that Charles was had up for a crime when he was 16 and given the choice of prison or the army and all later info on him shows he joined the army:-

First name Charles
Last name Checkley
Service number 1110
Rank Private
Unit or Regiment 1st Btn 22nd Foot (Cheshire) Depot
Regiment stationed at Parkhurst
Year 1861
National Archives reference WO12 / 3923
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain


Is there a site that would detail his signing up c.1858?

I'm sure they have, MC, but I didn't feel like ploughing through it all

Frances

WHO did he name as his father when he married?

If you haven't got the cert..............you need it

Have you ever looked at the hunimex website?

http://www.hunimex.net/warwick/B_M_D.html

http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/freecens/1841/index_1841.html

etc..............................

The 1841 & 1851 I posted above have previously been posted but no harm in verification.

So here's the correct 1841

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Butt Hill, Napton on the Hill, Southam, Warwickshire, England
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place

Job Checkley Male 30 1811 Warwickshire, England - an Ag Lab
Eleanor Checkley Female 25 1816 Warwickshire, England
Charles Checkley Male 2 1839 Warwickshire, England

EDIT: There are quite a few other Checkley families

I'd say father John could be Job

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Pillory Green, Napton on the Hill, Southam, Warwickshire, England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

John Checkley Head Married Male 45 1806 Ag Lab Warwickshire, England
Elenor Checkley Wife Married Female 43 1808 ­ Clifton, Warwickshire, England
Charles Checkley Son ­ Male 12 1839 Farmers Boy Warwickshire, England
Bethull Checkley Son ­ Male 9 1842 Scholar Warwickshire, England
Emma E Checkley Daughter ­ Female 8 1843 Scholar Warwickshire, England
Stephen H Checkley Son ­ Male 6 1845 Scholar Warwickshire, England
Frederick Checkley Son ­ Male 4 1847 ­ Warwickshire, England
Lucy E P Checkley Daughter ­ Female 2 1849 ­ Warwickshire, England

The occupation certainly matches the attestation.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Court Street, Leamington Priors, Warwick, Warwickshire, England


First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Hortin Checkley Male 30 1811 - Transcription
Maria Checkley Female 30 1811 - Transcription
Charles Checkley Male 0 1841 Warwickshire, England Transcription
Sarah Shakespeare Female 12 1829 Warwickshire, England Transcription
Richard Shakespeare Male 9 1832 Warwickshire, England



1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Charles Street, Leamington Priors, Warwick, Warwickshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hawtin Checkley Head Married Male 42 1809 Road Labourer Harbury, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Maria Checkley Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Fenny Compton, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Richard Shakspeare Son Of Wife Unmarried Male 19 1832 Railway Labourer Milverton, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Charles Checkley Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Leamington, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Edward Checkley Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Leamington, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Ann Maria Checkley Daughter - Female 5 1846 Scholar Leamington, Warwickshire, England Transcription
George Checkley Son - Male 2 1849 Scholar Leamington, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Henry Bartlett Lodger Unmarried Male 35 1816 Gentleman Servant Whitnash, Warwickshire, England Transcription
William Bartlett Lodger Unmarried Male 28 1823 Ag Labourer Whitnash, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Henry Tunnicliffe Lodger Unmarried Male 25 1826 Bricklayers Labourer Staffordshire, England Transcription

First name(s) CHARLES
Last name CHECKLEY
Birth year 1840
Birth parish NAPTON ON THE HILL
Birth town SOUTHAM
Birth county WARWICKSHIRE
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 1110
Rank -
Regiment Cheshire Regiment - 22nd Foot
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1860
Attestation Day 13
Attestation Month 8
Attestation age years 20
Attestation age months -
Attestation Corps 22nd Foot
Attestation service number 1110
Discharge Corps 22nd Foot

His full service records sadly don't give a next of kin before his marriage to Eliza Grubb

British Army Service Records 1760-1915
First name(s) CHARLES
Last name CHECKLEY
Birth year 1840
Birth parish NAPTON ON THE HILL
Birth town SOUTHAM
Birth county WARWICKSHIRE
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 1110
Rank ­
Regiment Cheshire Regiment ­ 22nd Foot

Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1860
Attestation Day 13
Attestation Month 8
Attestation age years 20
Attestation age months ­
Attestation Corps 22nd Foot
Attestation service number 1110
Discharge Corps 22nd Foot

Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760­1913

He was a farm labourer, enlisted Coventry.

Thank you MarieCeleste, it certainly matches but unfortunately it is not who I hoped to see. Does 1851 hold any Charles of birth c.1842 please?