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Migration to South Africa

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Gritty

Gritty Report 30 Oct 2014 09:02

This appears to be Johan (john) coming into England before his marriage to Beatrice:

Name: Mr Johan Hendrick Oosthuizen
Birth Date: abt 1905
Age: 22
Occupation: Fireman (Fire Brigade)
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 11 Apr 1927
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Cape Town
Ship Name: Balmoral Castle
Shipping line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd

Proposed address in UK was ? Fire Dept, Birmingham
Official Number: 129074


Possible baptism:
Johan Hendrik Oosthuizen
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 24 Aug 1906
Baptism Date: 7 Oct 1906
Baptism Place: Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa
Father Name: Johan Hendrik Oosthuizen
Mother Name: Anna Cecilia Brits
FHL Film Number: 1670388


This is Beatrice family in 1930
Midlands, England, Electoral Registers 1930
17a Sycamore Road, Selly Oak
James Clifford
Harriet Jane Clifford
Thomas Rowland Clifford
Eileen Vera Hunt

AndyTG

AndyTG Report 7 Nov 2014 23:08

Some of the answers received in post today. James Clifford passed away 18/5/1946. Cause of death. "Asphyxia from Coal Gas Poisoning. Suicide whilst the balance of mind was disturbed on account of ill health." He was a 1.5 mile walk from his home when he did the act!

His grandson was Johann Hendrick the same as his father also named on his birth certificate compared to the English version on his fathers marriage certificate 2 years before. Did the coroner know his grandson's 16th birthday was on the 18/5/1946.

I'll be able to read the coroners report in 6.5 years!!

AndyTG

AndyTG Report 7 Nov 2014 23:20

Griity, just spotted your last post on page 2. I think you have got the wright trip to England. On his sons birth certificate, the family are in London with his father as a Brigade Fireman at address 13 Woodside, Wimbledon.

AndyTG

AndyTG Report 8 Nov 2014 08:05

As it would cost me a large subscription I wonder if any one could please check who lived or what was at 1b Raddlebarn Road, Selly Oak, Birmingham, England in 1946. this was where James passed away and appears to be 1.5 miles away from his home of 182 Hay Green Lane, Bournville.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 8 Nov 2014 08:20

The 1946 Electoral Roll will be held at the main library in Birmingham. It is searchable by address

Either visit in person, or contact them to ask if they can do a lookup for you, for which there may be a small charge

AndyTG

AndyTG Report 8 Nov 2014 08:37

Thanks I will be visiting, I am a member, but we live 120 miles away but visiting my mum today and taking my wife to a concert at 7.00. I don't think I'll be able to sneak away today!

AndyTG

AndyTG Report 12 Nov 2014 22:45

Today some good answers from Birmingham library Archive. 1a and 1b Raddlebarn Road were the addresses given for Selly Oak Hospital (which opened in 1897 as the infirmary attached to the Kings Norton Union Workhouse). So he passed away at the hospital!

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Nov 2014 00:42

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about James Clifford
Name: James Clifford
Probate Date: 25 Sep 1946
Death Date: 18 May 1946
Death Place: Birmingham, England
Registry: Birmingham, England

Of 182 Hay Green-lane Birmingham 30 died 18 May 1946 at 1b Raddlebarn-roaf Birmingham 29 Probate Birmingham t25 September to Harriet Jane Clifford widow, Effects £1527 13s 4d

Might the Will give more details about his family? You could order a copy for £10 using form PA1S from the Probate office
http://tiny.cc/5um8ox

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Nov 2014 00:52

If this is Harriet, then her executor could be 'Tom' from the notes


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Harriet Jane Clifford
Name: Harriet Jane Clifford
Probate Date: 3 Apr 1957
Death Date: 19 Oct 1956
Death Place: Birmingham, England
Registry: Birmingham, England

of Rubery Hill Hospital Rubery Birmingham widow. Administration (with Will) Birmingham 3 April to Thomas Roland Clifford cocoa worker. Effects £4482 13s 11d

As this is the later death, the names of the heirs may be more relevant. I'd suggest that Administration was needed as it may not have been updated after her husband's death