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I will also PM you the Lewis/Feaver births.

yes it would be nice for Barry to compare notes

Derek

I have found Lilian Y Sparks daughter on Facebook..

Would you like the details?

Just spoken with Barry and he confirms much of info you ladies have kindly researched as correct. I am ordering a wedding cert for Leslie David Lewis and Phyllis C Davey to ascertain fathers names. Herbert sounds a big possibility.

However we are no wiser to this David Glitzeestien unless he is great grandfather or other relative. Margaret Roper is barry's grandmother for sure.
I have found a Joan E Lewis B 1927 nee Feaver and Barry confirms this was his dads 2nd wife after Phyllis Lewis nee Davey left. He has 2 step brothers Trevor and Paul the eldest about 9 years his junior born approx 1948.

Again many thanks.

Derek

Wow Mary,

That sounds a big possibility - Barry my friend spent his early life in and around Water Lane as did my paternal grandmother and my Dad by coincidence who lived in Paradise row, padsole lane. Maidstone.

Barry remembers Hans Heinrich clearly and yesterday recited a german poem or phrase taught to him by Hans,as a child, although he did not know the interpretation in English. Barry was born in 1939 and met Hans after the war as a boy.

1911 England Census
about Herbert Lewis Name:Herbert Lewis
Age in 1911:34
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1877
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Maidstone, Kent
Civil Parish:Maidstone
County/Island:Kent
Country:England
Street address:174 Union St, Maidstone, Kent
Marital Status:Married 9 Years
Occupation:General Dealer, Army Pensioner
Registration district:Maidstone
Registration District Number:51
Sub registration district:Maidstone

Household Members:

Herbert Lewis 34
Margaret Lewis 28 ......3 children born and living
Voilet Lewis 8
Albert Lewis 7
Wilfred Lewis 4
Ernest Lewis 21 (Brother)

Children born after 1911....


Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Lewis William C Roper Maidstone 2a 1740


Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Lewis Gertrude R Roper Maidstone 2a 1597


Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Lewis David L Roper Maidstone 2a 1604



England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Margaret Ann Roper Name:Margaret Ann Roper
Registration Year:1902
Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district:Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County:Northumberland
Volume:10b
Page:227

Records on Page:

Herbert Lewis
Margaret Ann Roper

Marriages Jun 1931 (>99%)
Lewis Lilian V Sparks Maidstone 2a 2493
Sparks Thomas W Lewis Maidstone 2a 2493


(This might be the Yvonne you were referring to Derek.....Lilian Yvonne?)

??
Births Dec 1931 (>99%)
Sparks Lilian Y Lewis Maidstone 2a 1423


Marriages Dec 1948 (>99%)
Sparks Lilian V Heinrichs Maidstone 5b 1268
Heinrichs Hans Sparks Maidstone 5b 1268



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Lilian Violet Heinricks Name:Lilian Violet Heinricks
Birth Date:21 Oct 1903
Date of Registration:Mar 1980
Age at Death:76
Registration district:Maidstone
Inferred County:Kent
Volume:16
Page:1345


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Hans Heinricks Name:Hans Heinricks
Birth Date:14 Nov 1912
Date of Registration:Jan 1993
Age at Death:80
Registration district:Maidstone
Inferred County:Kent
Register Number:A61C
District and Subdistrict:5691A
Entry Number:249

Barry's information is somewhat confusing, but I think you are on to something Mary.

The only thing is.........they don't appear to have had a son Leslie David Lewis.

I can only guess that the David L Lewis born 1916..........married Phyllis C Davey and his names were back to front!

Marriages Mar 1938 (>99%)

Davey Phyllis C Lewis Maidstone 2a 1721
Lewis Leslie D Davey Maidstone 2a 1721

Ok what do you think of this
Herbert Sidney lewis April 1877 Maidstone Kent (parents William G/henry Lewis and Annie/Amy).1911 he is William Henry Lewis of 62,Grecian Street same address in 1901.

Herbert married Margaret Ann Roper in Newcastle Upon Tyne she was born Northumberland 1882 died June 1951.
They had @ 9 children including Lilian Violet lewis 1903.
1911 she is down as Violet.

Lilian Violet Lewis married Thomas W Sparks 1931
Lilian Violet Sparks married Hans Hienrichs 1948 Maidstone 5b 1268.

Herbert Sidney lewis of 17,Water lane Maidstone died 8/2/1951 probate to Lilian Violet Heinrichs married woman £193 2s

Lilian Violet Heinrichs 21/10/1903 died 1980 in Maidstone.

Maryb.

I have been looking around but not found anything of interest.

I will keep looking and get back to you if anything of interest pops up.

I'm not seeing a Violet Lewis/Roper birth.

Barry definitely needs the Lewis/Davey marriage cert.

Prickles.

lewis /roper birth of Violet could fit. The L in David L may just be middle name of David Glitzeestien ? Im intrigued by that surname. Sounds eastern european / jewish ? Cannot find entry anywhere.

Isobella link is not a match sadly.
I'm assured Leslie David Lewis b 1916 did marry Phyllis C Davey b 1918 and they married in 1938 having 2 children. I have confirmed Phyllis's parentage.
She left Leslie and moved to Eltham London during war and later had children by new partnership. Leslie later remarried 2nd wife Joan and had 2 boys with her, Trevor and Paul. I have found Joan E Feaver b 1927 and a marriage to a Leslie D Lewis in 1952 in Maidstone which could fit..

Now the Father and mother of Leslie David Lewis appears to be David Glitzeestien born c 1880, who he believed changed his name to Lewis ( he owned a farm, and was an antique dealer in later life.) He married a Margaret Roper born c 1885 they had a daughter Violet - Barry's aunt and Barry's father Leslie.

Hi again Derek

I see you have deleted the other thread.

You mentioned a David "Glitzeestien" (You were uncertain of the spelling) c1890 changed his name to Lewis.
Possibly married Margaret Roper c1910

2 children Violet and Leslie David Lewis 1916

There is a Lewis/Roper birth 1916 Maidstone Kent......but it is for a David L Lewis


Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Lewis David L Roper Maidstone 2a 1604

Deaths Sep 1964 (>99%)
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LEWIS ISABELLA 80 CHELTENHAM 7B 291


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 (Ancestry)
Name: Isabella Lewis
Probate Date: 3 Nov 1964
Death Date: 6 Aug 1964
Death Place: Gloucestershire, England
Registry: Gloucestershire, England

(of Cherryhinton, 73 Station Road, Bishops Cleeve Gloucestershire widow died at the General Hospital Cheltenham)

Chris :)

Might this be Phyllis's second marriage.........


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Phyllis C Lewis Name:Phyllis C Lewis
Spouse Name: James H Upson
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1955
Registration district:Woolwich
Inferred County:Kent
Volume Number:5d
Page Number:2202

(Woolwich is the registration district for Eltham)

This death would match the birth I posted.......


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Phyllis Clare Upson Name:Phyllis Clare Upson
Birth Date:24 Sep 1918
Date of Registration:Sep 1994
Age at Death:76
Registration district:Bromley
Inferred County:Kent
Register Number:B23
District and Subdistrict:2221B
Entry Number:147

Violet maybe

Name: Violet Lena Heinrich
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1912
Date of Registration: Jul 1999
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: London
Register Number: B38
District and Subdistrict: 2381B
Entry Number: 175

Hi Again.

Leslie David had a birth sister Violet - When his wife Phyllis left / they split up, he went to stay with his son Barry with his sister Violet for a couple of years. Barry remembers Violet either married or lived with a german prisoner of war Hans Heinrich and they had a daughter Yvonne. Barry as a child remembered he was a nice man and talked about looking after horses in Germany. He has had no contact with Violet and family after his childhood. Barry had a birth sister Brenda who was adopted i guess after their mother left to go to Eltham London. Barry found his sister Brenda some years later - she is now Brenda Woodley and lives in North Wales. He has nothing on his birth mother Phyllis after she left other than she remarried and had 2 children Trevor and Paul in Eltham London.

All a bit sketchy, but info mainly from childhood memories.

Not sure about link with Cambridge ie Isabella German . Will talk with Barry when i see him and see if info I have been kindly given, prompts any further memories.

Many Thanks all for your help.

Derek

St. Philip. Cambridge. (below info. taken from Parish cd's)

Baptism.
1915 4 April Lewis Leslie David of David Herbert & Isabella of 116 Grosvenor Road Aldershot Fishmonger Born 17th Feb 1915


Marriage.
1908 28th Dec Lewis David Herbert 24 Bac stone mason of Hale Farnham son of George lab Germany Isabella 25 sp of 33 Belgrave Road dau of George ostler wits. Edwin R Kelly, Jesse Lewis

Chris :)

St. Barnabas. Cambridge.

Baptism.
1901 30th Jan Lewis David Herbert son of George & Mahala of 84 Sedgwick Street mason Born 21st Sept 1884 adult baptism


St. Matthew. Cambridge.

Baptism.
1884 16th July Germany Isabella of George & Betsy of Belgrave Road Mill Road lab

Hi again Derek

You say Leslie David had a sister Violet........but I am not seeing a birth for a Violet Lewis with mothers maiden name Germany?

Who did Phyllis C Davey remarry?

Do you know her middle name?

I could carry on posting.......but I don't want to deny Barry the pleasure of finding the info for himself.

Happy researching. :-)