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Florence Hettie Baker

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Yvonne

Yvonne Report 9 Oct 2014 18:13

Hi, I am trying to find relatives of my grand mother - Florence Baker.
She was born in Poplar in December 1886 but lived for some time with her Aunt and Uncle, George and Mary Baker in Hampton Middlesex.
Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 9 Oct 2014 18:28

Have you got Florence's birth certificate with the names of her parents?
Or do you know who they are, and have you found them all in any census?

Thank-you

Mike *

Mike * Report 9 Oct 2014 18:30

Only this one coming up ... no Florence Hettie

Births Dec 1886
Baker Florence Gertrude - Poplar 1c 692

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Oct 2014 18:32

Name: Florence Baker
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Birthplace: London Poplar, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Hackney
Sub-District: Stoke Newington
Parish: Stoke Newington
County: London

patchem

patchem Report 9 Oct 2014 18:34

Just for ref:

1901 England Census
Florence Baker
Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Niece Gender: Female
Birth Place: Poplar, London, England Civil Parish: Hampton
Ecclesiastical parish: Hampton St Mary the Virgin Town: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration District: Hampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 671 Folio: 13 Page Number: 17 Household schedule number: 105
George Baker 45 Hampton
Mary Baker 47 Hampton
William Baker 24 Hampton
Florence Baker 15
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 671; Folio: 13; Page: 17.

Gee

Gee Report 9 Oct 2014 18:36

Hi

Was 'Baker' her maiden name or her married name?

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Oct 2014 18:39

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Florence Gertrude Baker
Name: Florence Gertrude Baker
Record Type: Birth
Estimated Birth Date: 9 Dec 1886
Mother's name: Dorothy Baker
Parish or Poor Law Union: Poplar
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Might be able to connect mother Dorothy with George?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Oct 2014 18:40

who did she marry??

maybe we can find her birth from looking backwards from her death

patchem

patchem Report 9 Oct 2014 18:43

Florence Baker, 1886, Poplar, London, is in Yvonne's tree on here.

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Oct 2014 18:54

unusually there is another baptism record?? gives mothers middle name

Name: Florence Gertrude Baker
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Dec 1886
Mother's name: Dorothy Agnes Baker
Parish or Poor Law Union: Poplar
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

This Florence was born on the 9th DEC 1886, mother was a domestic servant

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Oct 2014 19:06

I don't know if this is mum but it may help with elimination if nothing else

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Dorothy Agnes Baker
Name: Dorothy Agnes Baker
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 24
Spouse: Thomas John Vye
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Feb 1891
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Benjamin Baker
Spouse Father: Thomas John Vye
Register Type: Parish Register

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Oct 2014 19:13

1901 England Census about Thomas John Vye
Name: Thomas John Vye
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Dorothy Agnes Vye
Birth Place: Surrey, London, England
Civil Parish: Horselydown
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration District: St Olave, Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 386
Folio: 23
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas John Vye 34
Dorothy Agnes Vye 34
Dorothy May Vye 9
Frederick T Vye 7
Gladys A Vye 5
Violet E Vye 2

patchem

patchem Report 9 Oct 2014 19:14

Uncle George Baker in census? (He is birth year about 1859 in other censuses)

1861 England Census
George Baker Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Baker Mother's name: Elizabeth Baker
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampton, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hampton County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Kingston Sub-registration district: Hampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 40 Piece: 458 Folio: 30 Page Number: 7
William Baker 43 Leeds Yorkshire
Elizabeth Baker 36 Bexley Kent
William Baker 11 Hampton
Sarah Baker 6
John Baker 4
xxxGeorge Baker 2
Susan Baker 6/12
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 458; Folio: 30; Page: 7; GSU roll: 542642.

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Oct 2014 19:16




1891 England Census about Dorothy Hye
Name: Dorothy Hye
[Dorothy Vye]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Hye
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Horsleydown
Ecclesiastical parish: Horsleydown St John
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Olave Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 369
Folio: 84
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hye 24
Dorothy Hye 24 born Scotland


which seems to tie in with this one
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about Dortha Agnes Baker
Name: Dortha Agnes Baker
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 Mar 1866
Birth Place: Leith,Midlothian,Scotland
Father: Benjamin Baker
Mother: Hannah Bond
FHL Film Number: 6035516

patchem

patchem Report 9 Oct 2014 19:35

Uncle and Aunt in 1911:

1911 England Census
George Henery Baker
Age in 1911: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation to Head: Head
Birth Place: Hampton, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hampton County/Island: Surrey Country: England
Street address: No 2 Chapel Cottages, High St Hampton, Middlesex
Marital Status: Married (33 years)
Occupation: Labourer General Registration district: Kingston
Registration District Number: 40 Sub-registration district: Hampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 207 Piece: 3561
George Henery Baker 51
Mary Ann Sarah Baker 58
William Henery Jones 32
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 3561; Schedule Number: 207.

So this might be their marriage:
Marriages Jun 1878
Baker George Henry Kingston 2a 432
OBURNE Mary Ann S S Kingston 2a 432
SNELL Mary Ann S Kingston 2a 432

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Oct 2014 17:16

Hello Yvonne and welcome to the Community Boards.




(I'll let Yvonne know how to find her replies) :-)

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 12 Oct 2014 10:12

Yes , my grandmother was born on the 9th of December and lived for a while with her aunt and uncle George and Mary in Chapel Cottage in Hampton.

I am desperate to know who she married because she had 2 children in Hammersmith - but I don't know anything other than he died when they were very young from bronchial pneumonia and the children have the surname Barclay.
Thanks for your help

patchem

patchem Report 12 Oct 2014 12:15

Have you looked for possible marriages and births, and where did you get the surname Barclay from?

Thank-you

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patchem

patchem Report 12 Oct 2014 12:18

These births?
Births Dec 1919
Barclay Geoffrey D Baker Greenwich 1d 2107
Births Mar 1926
Barclay Noel E Baker Greenwich 1d 1424

go with this marriage??
Marriages Jun 1919
Baker Millie Barclay Greenwich 1d 2335
Barclay Arthur D Baker Greenwich 1d 2335

But no suitable death showing on free bmd.

Added:
Arthur D and Millie still together on ER in 1939, so not them.

Have you got approximate years for the births of the children?

When did she use the name Hettie?

Mary

Mary Report 12 Oct 2014 13:03

No connection jumping out with Dorothy Agnes Baker 1867 Scotland and George Henry Baker 1859 Hampton.

Maryb.