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I have to start going to bed at night :-)

yes, Catherine is not going to have a sister Catherine, that's what I'd been saying at the outset ... I think ... and then I lost my mind! Catherine Murphy in Philadelphia could be Joseph's cousin, niece of Joseph's mother Catherine (daughter of her brother) at best

and of course this would make Mary Murphy Perry Tasker a cousin of Joseph as well

there might well be some family connection between those Murphys, but there might just as well not be :-)

Sorry Joonie, I'm confused

"so no sister Catherine ... that we know of ."

maybe I misunderstood, I thought in your previous post you were asking about Catherine Murphy's siblings (ie. Aunts and uncles to Joseph), which I posted at top of page 2. Catherine was the daughter of Michael Murphy and Mary Lynskey and had at least 2 siblings, Ned and Bessie.

uurrrr ... I went up and down the thread looking for the baptisms I thought you had posted and I couldn't see them!

so no sister Catherine ... that we know of ...


and now who is aunt E O'Connor ?? maybe on the Dean side ...

Joonie- Catherine's sibling's Bessie and Ned; baptisms posted earlier in thread.

here we are Barbara, I think this is Mary Murphy Perry Tasker's first marriage


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JV84-26J

Mary Murphy
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951
Name: Perry
Spouse's Name: Mary Murphy
Event Year: 1897
License Number: 98998
Image Number: 00392 , Digital Folder Number: 4141877

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JV8F-Z9S

Edward Perry
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951
Name: Edward Perry
Spouse's Name: Murphy
Event Year: 1897
License Number: 98998
Image Number: 00167 , Digital Folder Number: 4141908


and just for completeness, this is the flip side of the Tasker-Perry marriage I posted earlier (realizing now that each spouse's record has to be found to see the two full names, for PA marriages)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JVD5-SXH

Charles J Tasker
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951
Name: Charles J Tasker
Spouse's Name: Perry
Event Year: 1909
License Number: 235950
Image Number: 00013 , Digital Folder Number: 4141929



here is a Catherine Murphy born in Mayo c1879 in Liverpool in 1901

Name: Catherine Murphy
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: John Murphy
Mother: Mary Murphy
Birth Place: Mayo, Ireland
Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: West Derby

John Murphy 60 c1851 Mayo
Mary Murphy 60
Catherine Murphy 22
Annie Murphy 20
John Murphy 30


Joseph's mother Catherine Murphy Dean was born c1858

do you know anything about who her siblings were?


btw numerous Catherine Murphys (to use only that spelling) married in Philadelphia in the 1920s and 1930s and the records available at familysearch give no info that could identify them

Thank you all for the information. Sorry I have not been back sooner but unfortunately I have not been well today.

I found the US 1910 census on familysearch and it had
Charles Tasker
Mary Tasker 1877 Wife
Agnes Murphy 1891 Sister in law
Katherine Murphy 1879 Sister in law

This points to Mary his wife being a Murphy

My Gt Grandmother was Kate Murphy who married John Dean
in 1869 in Ballina Ireland . They then came to England and all their children were born in Leeds
Joseph Ambrose Dean was my Gt Uncle but I had never heard any mention of him.

Thanks again
Barbara

thanks Chris, I was kind of stupid

I posted the link to the image of the passenger record

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21580-47040-80?cc=1921481

... and didn't realize that if you click to go to the next page

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21580-45753-81?cc=1921481

... it gives you those details :-)

Not sure if already added, but on Philadelphia arrival, 1912 he is going to Aunt, Mrs. E O'Connor 2010 Sansom Street Phila


(although already added, but on below, he is Joseph Dear)

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1948 (Ancestry)

Chris :)

he is a different person, that's the point :-)

the death in 1962 is very likely Abraham Joseph and not Joseph Ambrose


but Tenerife Sun you have just tossed yet another different Joseph into the pot

the one in that 1901 census is older, he is almost certainly this one

Births Mar 1888
DEAN Joseph Appleyard Bramley 9b 385

Isn't Joseph Abraham a different person? Here he is in 1901 with parents Sarah and John.

1901 England Census about Joseph A Dean
Name: Joseph A Dean
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: John Dean
Mother: Sarah Dean
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wortley
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Bramley
Sub-registration District: Wortley
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4210
Folio: 90
Page Number: 29
Household schedule number: 202
Household Members:
Name Age
John Dean 39
Sarah Dean 39
Joseph A Dean 13
Samuel Dean 8
Arthur Dean 2

that's men for you :-D

Annoying man, changing the order of his names....

ah, Abraham Joseph Dean in the 1911 in Horsforth in Wharfedale reg dist maybe?

must be

Births Dec 1891
Dean Abraham Joseph Wharfedale 9a 124

in June Q 1962 he would have been 70 1/2

This one looks like the above death: (wrong middle name!)


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Joseph Abraham Dean
Name: Joseph Abraham Dean
Probate Date: 17 May 1962
Death Date: 3 Apr 1962
Death Place: Leeds, England
Registry: London, England

DEAN, Joseph Abraham, of 8 Vicarage Avenue, Leeds died
3 April 1962. James Hospital, Leeds. Administration
London 17 May to Lydia Hutchinson married woman.
Effects £832 7s 11d

Dea x

No, I thought there might be several births, but unless by complete coincidence someone moved into the area, it definitely looks a strong possibility.

well wouldn't that take the cake :-)

there wasn't another Joseph A Dean born 1890-1894 anywhere in the vicinity

Did he return to Leeds?

Deaths Jun 1962
DEAN Joseph A 70 Leeds 2c 398

I don't know if you have this, but this is the baptism of Catherine's brother in BACKS:

Church Baptism Record
Name: Ned Murphy, Male
Date of Baptism: 02-Aug-1846
Address: Derr- Parish/District: BACKS/KNOCKMORE
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Michael Murphy Mother: Mary Lynsky
Godparents:
Informant 1: Ned O'Boyle
Informant 2: Mgt Noon

And the marriage of Catherine's parents:

09-Nov-1843
Parish / District: BACKS/KNOCKMORE County: Co. Mayo
Name: Michl Murphy, Address: Rehins
Spouse: Mary Lynskey, Address: Unknown
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Husband's Father: Unknown Murphy
Wife's father: Unknown Lynskey
Witnesses: Pat Murphy Biddy O'Boyle

Ancestry also has these children baptised BACKS with same parents born Mayo:

Unnamed Murphy bap: 1849
parents: Michl Murphy & Mary Linskea,
address: Derrnamuck
Godparents: Edward O'boyle & Cath O'boyle

Bessie Murphy bap 16th April 1854
Parents: Michl Murphy & Mary Linska
Address: Derynamuck
Godparents: Ned O'boyle & Mary Noon

Above is 1940.

Chris :)

Frank Tasker is still with mother (stepmother) Mary in 1930:

(took note you added above!)

yes, I posted the link to that 1930 census with Mary Tasker and stepson Frank :-)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHZR-2TY

but since we don't have much reason to think they are related ...


Backs makes sense. Someone in the household wrote the info on the census schedule but it's hard to say who since the signature itself on the form is an x.


edit ... 1930, 1940 ... :-) main thing is, Joseph was simply boarding with them in 1920 as far as we know

Catherine Murphy from the 1920 could be of interest but I can't find any Cath* Murphy in 1930 or 1940 who isn't either married or a widow

it might be worth checking possible passenger records that might match her to see whether any potentially useful info turns up ... I can't do that, no proper sub

I would still guess she was just another boarder though ...