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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Ronald H Booth

Name: Ronald H Booth
Birth Date: abt 1910
Date of Registration: Dec 1963
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Bucklow
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 168

freebmd version

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Broughton Johnny H Chadwick Saddleworth 9a 563

no Chadwick shown


Bessie is shown separately ............

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Chadwick Bessie I Broughton Saddleworth 9a 663


The page number for Johnny is wrong




but it isn't Charles!

freebmd seems to have a mix-up on the marriage


but this is the Broughton - Chadwick marriage as shown on lancsbmd


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1919
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

BROUGHTON Johnny H CHADWICK Bessie I Greenfield, St. Mary Oldham CE220/2/69

Doreen has Ellen Broughton, born in 1920, no birthplace specified, in her tree on here.

??
Births Jun 1920
Broughton Ellen Chadwick Burnley 8e 517

I did follow Nellie Broughton, because she married as Nellie


Marriages Mar 1940 (>99%)
Booth Ronald H Broughton Bucklow
Broughton Nellie Booth Bucklow 8a 749




I can't find an Ellen of the correct age, either :-S :-S

OH ............................


I wonder if this is the reason I can't find Nellie?



Deaths Mar 1902 (>99%)
Broughton Nellie 0 Bucklow 8a 118



age shown as 0, means under the age of 1





BUT there is no other Nellie Broughton born after 1901




This is a puzzle!!!!! :-S :-S




anyone else got any ideas???????????????????

????? this looks like Harriet's marriage


Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
Broughton Harriet Bucklow 8a 481
WHITTAKER William Henry Bucklow 8a 481


1911 Census

Name: Harriet Whittaker
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cheadle
Civil Parish: Alderley and Edge
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 2 Brown Street Alderley Edge
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: At Home
Registration district: Macclesfield
Registration District Number: 444
Sub-registration district: Alderley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 21508

William Henry Whittaker 24
Harriet Whittaker 31
William Arthur Whittaker 2
Frank Whittaker 1
William Henry Frost 59 Lodger




But NO Nellie!



I just cannot find Nellie in 1911.

This looks as if this is Harriet Broughton in 1891, living with her mother


1891 Census

Name: Harriet Broughton
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Maria Broughton
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheadle, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Bollin Fee
Ecclesiastical parish: Wilmslow
Town: Wilmslow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Wilmslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2820
Folio: 35
Page Number: 9

Maria Broughton 42 b.ca 1849, Chelford, Cheshire, Widow, Seamstress
Harriet Broughton 11 Scholar
John Broughton 10 Scholar
Robert Williamson 26 Lodger

Address:- Parsonage Green



and in 1881

1881 Census

Name: Harriett Broughton
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Thomas Broughton
Mother: Maria Broughton
Gender: Female
Where born: Withenshaw, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Heaton Norris
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 2 Howards Court

Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Heaton Norris
ED, institution, or vessel: 13

Piece: 3473
Folio: 58
Page Number: 24

Thomas Broughton 32 b.ca 1849, Wilmslow, Gardener (Unemployed)
Maria Broughton 31 b.ca 1850, Chelford, Cheshire
Harriett Broughton 2
John Broughton 7 days
Mary Gledhill 10 b.ca 1871, Cheadle, Step Daughter
(not transcribed)

I can find one possible marriage for Charles Broughton


Marriages Mar 1927 (>99%)
Broughton Charles Peasgood Bucklow 8a 282
Peasgood Isabel Broughton Bucklow 8a 282





I think you HAVE to buy Nellie's birth certificate


It looks as though she really may have been illegitimate.

sorry ...... the 1901 census disappeared on me


1901 Census

Name: Nellie Broughton
Age: 10 Months <<<<<<<<<<<< actually 10 DAYS on image
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Inmate
Birth Place: Knutsford, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Knutsford
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bucklow
Sub-registration district: Knutsford
ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3329
Folio: 104
Page Number: 11
Household schedule number: 1

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Harriet Broughton 21 b.ca 1880, Cheadle, Cheshire, Single, Domestic Worker
Nellie Broughton 10 Months <<<< 10 days
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Address:- Knutsford District Workhouse

If this was the correct Charles Broughton ................ then he was not apparently married before 1901, and was still single in 1911


This begs the question of who is Nellie?


I think you have to buy her birth certificate to find out who is named as her father.



I looked on Cheshirebmd ........... but unfortunately, they do not show the mother's maiden name


This looks like the birth for Nellie

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1901
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BROUGHTON Nellie Knutsford Cheshire East KNU/30/37


This is probably the same birth registration from freebmd.org.uk, which also does not show mother's surname before mid-1911

Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
Broughton Nellie Bucklow 8a 203



There is no Nellie Broughton on the 1911 Census


One Nellie Broughton shows on the 1901 Census, which was taken on the night of 31 March 1901, with the incorrect age of 10 months .............. looking at the image of the census shows that this Nellie was 10 days old

HOWEVER ............ her mother is shown as single, and a domestic servant ............. and they are in the Workhouse.

and in 1901


1901 Census

Name: Charley Broughton
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: John Broughton
Mother: Mary Broughton
Birth Place: Wilmslow, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Wilmslow
Ecclesiastical parish: Wilmslow
Town: Wilmslow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bucklow
Sub-registration district: Wilmslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3319
Folio: 36
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 38

John Broughton 46 b.ca 1855, Wilmslow, Brickyard Labourer
Mary Broughton 45 b.ca 1856, Wilmslow
Charley Broughton 20 Chemist's Porter
Ellen Broughton 18
Philip Broughton 16
John Broughton 12
Joseph Broughton 10
Paul Broughton 7
Agnes Broughton 2



and in 1911, with his mother and siblings


1911 Census

Name: Charles Broughton
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wilmslow, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Wilmslow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: Park Road Wiemsbour Cheshire
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Vanman
Registration district: Bucklow
Registration District Number: 445
Sub-registration district: Wilmslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 21511

Mary Broughton 54 Widow
Charles Broughton 30 SINGLE
Ellen Broughton 28
Philip Arthur Broughton 25
John Broughton 22
Joseph Broughton 20


Mary had had 9 children born, 5 still alive, 4 died.

This looks like Charles in 1891, with his family

1891 Census

Name: Charles Broughton
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Broughton
Mother's name: Mary Broughton
Gender: Male
Where born: Wilmslow, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Pownall Fee
Ecclesiastical parish: Wilmslow
Town: Wilmslow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Wilmslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2821
Folio: 75
Page Number: 15

John Broughton 36 b.ca 1855, Wilmslow, Brickyard Labourer
Mary Broughton 35 b.ca 1856, Wilmslow
Charles Broughton 10
Ellen Broughton 8
Philip Broughton 6
John Broughton 2
Joseph Broughton 1/12

Address:- Newtown

Nellie was born in 1901

Births Jun 1901 (>99%)
Broughton Nellie Bucklow 8a 203

Thanks for the info. I do not recognize the address, but I do know he was from Wilmslow originally, I have an address of Alma Lane. This was my grandfather , and Ronald Hugh Booth and Ellen broughton were my parents. I have never heard of the Birgess family.

Hello Doreen and welcome to the Community boards.



(I'll let Doreen know how to find her replies) :-)

Hi GB. You may be right, but Ronald and Nellie married in the same district in 1940.

Doreen, does the address quoted in the probate record ring any bells? Eg on marriage cert for Ronald and Nellie.

Andy

Sorry Andrew does look like the correct area

I wondered about that death but that reg dist does not include Lymm

This might be his death

Deaths Mar 1954 (>99%)
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BROUGHTON Charles 73 Bucklow 10a 116

and probate??


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Charles Broughton

Name:Charles Broughton
Probate Date:3 May 1954
Death Date:6 Feb 1954
Death Place:Cheshire, England
Registry:Manchester, England

of 26 Park Road Wilmslow
to Frank Burgess and Cynthia Burgess
Effects £785




Andy