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doreen
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21 Sep 2014 19:31 |
Does any one have info. on Charles Broughton, born in Wilmslow and died in Lymm, roughly 1954. His daughter Nellie, was my mother. She married Ronald Hugh Booth and they lived in Lymm. I have info. on the Booths but I am having difficulties with the Broughtons. Thanks, Doreen.
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GlitterBaby
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21 Sep 2014 19:32 |
Do you have any certs ?
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Andrew
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21 Sep 2014 19:36 |
This might be his death
Deaths Mar 1954 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BROUGHTON Charles 73 Bucklow 10a 116
and probate??
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Charles Broughton
Name:Charles Broughton Probate Date:3 May 1954 Death Date:6 Feb 1954 Death Place:Cheshire, England Registry:Manchester, England
of 26 Park Road Wilmslow to Frank Burgess and Cynthia Burgess Effects £785
Andy
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21 Sep 2014 19:38 |
I wondered about that death but that reg dist does not include Lymm
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GlitterBaby
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21 Sep 2014 19:40 |
Sorry Andrew does look like the correct area
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Andrew
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21 Sep 2014 19:52 |
Hi GB. You may be right, but Ronald and Nellie married in the same district in 1940.
Doreen, does the address quoted in the probate record ring any bells? Eg on marriage cert for Ronald and Nellie.
Andy
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Cynthia
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22 Sep 2014 13:29 |
Hello Doreen and welcome to the Community boards.
(I'll let Doreen know how to find her replies) :-)
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doreen
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22 Sep 2014 18:09 |
Thanks for the info. I do not recognize the address, but I do know he was from Wilmslow originally, I have an address of Alma Lane. This was my grandfather , and Ronald Hugh Booth and Ellen broughton were my parents. I have never heard of the Birgess family.
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SylviaInCanada
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22 Sep 2014 20:05 |
Nellie was born in 1901
Births Jun 1901 (>99%) Broughton Nellie Bucklow 8a 203
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22 Sep 2014 20:18 |
This looks like Charles in 1891, with his family
1891 Census
Name: Charles Broughton Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Broughton Mother's name: Mary Broughton Gender: Male Where born: Wilmslow, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Pownall Fee Ecclesiastical parish: Wilmslow Town: Wilmslow County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Registration district: Altrincham Sub-registration district: Wilmslow ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2821 Folio: 75 Page Number: 15
John Broughton 36 b.ca 1855, Wilmslow, Brickyard Labourer Mary Broughton 35 b.ca 1856, Wilmslow Charles Broughton 10 Ellen Broughton 8 Philip Broughton 6 John Broughton 2 Joseph Broughton 1/12 Address:- Newtown
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SylviaInCanada
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22 Sep 2014 20:22 |
and in 1901
1901 Census
Name: Charley Broughton Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: John Broughton Mother: Mary Broughton Birth Place: Wilmslow, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Wilmslow Ecclesiastical parish: Wilmslow Town: Wilmslow County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Registration district: Bucklow Sub-registration district: Wilmslow ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3319 Folio: 36 Page Number: 6 Household schedule number: 38
John Broughton 46 b.ca 1855, Wilmslow, Brickyard Labourer Mary Broughton 45 b.ca 1856, Wilmslow Charley Broughton 20 Chemist's Porter Ellen Broughton 18 Philip Broughton 16 John Broughton 12 Joseph Broughton 10 Paul Broughton 7 Agnes Broughton 2
and in 1911, with his mother and siblings
1911 Census
Name: Charles Broughton Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Wilmslow, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Wilmslow County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: Park Road Wiemsbour Cheshire Marital Status: Single Occupation: Vanman Registration district: Bucklow Registration District Number: 445 Sub-registration district: Wilmslow ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 21511
Mary Broughton 54 Widow Charles Broughton 30 SINGLE Ellen Broughton 28 Philip Arthur Broughton 25 John Broughton 22 Joseph Broughton 20
Mary had had 9 children born, 5 still alive, 4 died.
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SylviaInCanada
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22 Sep 2014 20:41 |
If this was the correct Charles Broughton ................ then he was not apparently married before 1901, and was still single in 1911
This begs the question of who is Nellie?
I think you have to buy her birth certificate to find out who is named as her father.
I looked on Cheshirebmd ........... but unfortunately, they do not show the mother's maiden name
This looks like the birth for Nellie
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1901 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference BROUGHTON Nellie Knutsford Cheshire East KNU/30/37
This is probably the same birth registration from freebmd.org.uk, which also does not show mother's surname before mid-1911
Births Jun 1901 (>99%) Broughton Nellie Bucklow 8a 203
There is no Nellie Broughton on the 1911 Census
One Nellie Broughton shows on the 1901 Census, which was taken on the night of 31 March 1901, with the incorrect age of 10 months .............. looking at the image of the census shows that this Nellie was 10 days old
HOWEVER ............ her mother is shown as single, and a domestic servant ............. and they are in the Workhouse.
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22 Sep 2014 20:59 |
sorry ...... the 1901 census disappeared on me
1901 Census
Name: Nellie Broughton Age: 10 Months <<<<<<<<<<<< actually 10 DAYS on image Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Inmate Birth Place: Knutsford, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Knutsford Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Registration district: Bucklow Sub-registration district: Knutsford ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3329 Folio: 104 Page Number: 11 Household schedule number: 1
. . . . . Harriet Broughton 21 b.ca 1880, Cheadle, Cheshire, Single, Domestic Worker Nellie Broughton 10 Months <<<< 10 days . . . .
Address:- Knutsford District Workhouse
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SylviaInCanada
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22 Sep 2014 21:02 |
I can find one possible marriage for Charles Broughton
Marriages Mar 1927 (>99%) Broughton Charles Peasgood Bucklow 8a 282 Peasgood Isabel Broughton Bucklow 8a 282
I think you HAVE to buy Nellie's birth certificate
It looks as though she really may have been illegitimate.
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SylviaInCanada
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22 Sep 2014 21:17 |
This looks as if this is Harriet Broughton in 1891, living with her mother
1891 Census
Name: Harriet Broughton Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Maria Broughton Gender: Female Where born: Cheadle, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Bollin Fee Ecclesiastical parish: Wilmslow Town: Wilmslow County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Registration district: Altrincham Sub-registration district: Wilmslow ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2820 Folio: 35 Page Number: 9
Maria Broughton 42 b.ca 1849, Chelford, Cheshire, Widow, Seamstress Harriet Broughton 11 Scholar John Broughton 10 Scholar Robert Williamson 26 Lodger
Address:- Parsonage Green
and in 1881
1881 Census
Name: Harriett Broughton Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: Thomas Broughton Mother: Maria Broughton Gender: Female Where born: Withenshaw, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Heaton Norris County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 2 Howards Court
Registration district: Stockport Sub-registration district: Heaton Norris ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 3473 Folio: 58 Page Number: 24
Thomas Broughton 32 b.ca 1849, Wilmslow, Gardener (Unemployed) Maria Broughton 31 b.ca 1850, Chelford, Cheshire Harriett Broughton 2 John Broughton 7 days Mary Gledhill 10 b.ca 1871, Cheadle, Step Daughter (not transcribed)
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22 Sep 2014 21:21 |
????? this looks like Harriet's marriage
Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%) Broughton Harriet Bucklow 8a 481 WHITTAKER William Henry Bucklow 8a 481
1911 Census
Name: Harriet Whittaker Age in 1911: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Cheadle Civil Parish: Alderley and Edge County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: 2 Brown Street Alderley Edge Marital Status: Married Occupation: At Home Registration district: Macclesfield Registration District Number: 444 Sub-registration district: Alderley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 21508
William Henry Whittaker 24 Harriet Whittaker 31 William Arthur Whittaker 2 Frank Whittaker 1 William Henry Frost 59 Lodger
But NO Nellie!
I just cannot find Nellie in 1911.
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SylviaInCanada
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22 Sep 2014 21:31 |
OH ............................
I wonder if this is the reason I can't find Nellie?
Deaths Mar 1902 (>99%) Broughton Nellie 0 Bucklow 8a 118
age shown as 0, means under the age of 1
BUT there is no other Nellie Broughton born after 1901
This is a puzzle!!!!! :-S :-S
anyone else got any ideas???????????????????
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SylviaInCanada
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22 Sep 2014 21:42 |
I did follow Nellie Broughton, because she married as Nellie
Marriages Mar 1940 (>99%) Booth Ronald H Broughton Bucklow Broughton Nellie Booth Bucklow 8a 749
I can't find an Ellen of the correct age, either :-S :-S
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22 Sep 2014 22:38 |
Doreen has Ellen Broughton, born in 1920, no birthplace specified, in her tree on here.
?? Births Jun 1920 Broughton Ellen Chadwick Burnley 8e 517
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SylviaInCanada
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22 Sep 2014 23:46 |
freebmd seems to have a mix-up on the marriage
but this is the Broughton - Chadwick marriage as shown on lancsbmd
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1919 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BROUGHTON Johnny H CHADWICK Bessie I Greenfield, St. Mary Oldham CE220/2/69
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