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Lillicrapp help, please. Added another plea 7/10

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 7 Oct 2014 17:01

Well, that will keep me out of mischief, alviegal.

I really appreciate the time and trouble you have invested in this for me.

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2014 16:12

1871—Transcript of Piece RG10/2218



There are Pearses at Trewannion here.


Civil Parish of Lesnewth, Eccl. District of -
Folio 15 Page 1

1,Trewannion,1,Thomas Pearse,Head,M,24,,Farm Labourer,St Juliott Cornwall,,
,,,Ann Pearse,Wife,M,,22,,Camelford Cornwall,,
,,,Emily Pearse,Dau,,,2,,Lesnewth Cornwall,,
,,,William Pearse,Son,,2m,,,Lesnewth Cornwall,,




There are Lilicraps here

Folio 48 Page 4

16,Penventon,1,Joseph Lillacrapp,Head,W,62,,Farmer 12 Acres,St Juliot Cornwall,,
,,,Thomas Lillacrapp,Son,U,23,,Farmers Son,St Juliot Cornwall,,


Folio 49 Page 5

20,Hennett,1,Edward Lillacrapp,Head,U,73,,Farmer 233 Acres,St Juliot Cornwall,,
,,,Mary Lillacrapp,Sister,U,,71,,St Juliot Cornwall,,
,,,Grace Elson,Sister,W,,66,,St Juliot Cornwall,,
,,,Edward Elson,Nephew,M,28,,,St Genys Cornwall,,
,,,Elizabeth Elson,Wife,M,,29,,Lesnewth Cornwall,,
,,,Grace Elson,Niece,U,,2,,Lesnewth Cornwall,,
,,,Edward Elson,Nephew,U,4m,,,Lesnewth Cornwall,,
,,,Thomas Hodge,Servnt,U,17,,Farm Servant Indoor,St Juliot Cornwall,


http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/72218.html#top


http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=7hGkBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA386&lpg=PA386&dq=trewannion,+cornwall&source=bl&ots=cQQlDIAYeH&sig=kiZJVy9roL5v0A32yeP4aI-So4s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=S_QzVMXVPMHP7QadqIGQCg&ved=0CDwQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q&f=false


gives different names for Trewennion.

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 7 Oct 2014 15:25

Probate
Letters of administration of the personal estate of William Pearse Lillicrapp late of 27 Davies Street, BErkley Square and of 4 Beaufoy Terrace, Maida Vale both in Middlesex, furrier deceased who died 02/01/1865 at 4 Beaufoy Terrace were granted to Grace Lillicrapp, widow of 27 Davies Street. Effects under £5,000.00.00

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2014 15:03

Day Month 30-Jul
Year 1820
Parish Or Reg District Lesnewth
Forename William Pearce
Surname LILLICRAP
Sex son
Father Forename Richard
Mother Forename Mary
Residence Trewannion
Father Rank Profession Farmer


Day Month 02-Jun
Year 1822
Parish Or Reg District Lesnewth
Forename Richard
Surname LILLICRAP
Sex son
Father Forename Richard
Mother Forename Mary
Residence Trewannion
Father Rank Profession Farmer

All from http://v1.cornwall-opc-database.org/

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2014 14:57

William's parents' marriage perhaps?


Day Month 11-Nov
Year 1819
Parish Or Reg District Minster
Groom Fn Richard
Groom Sn LILLICRAP
Groom Age
Groom Residence Lesnewth
Groom Condition
Groom Rank Profession
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Groom Father Name
Groom Father Rank Profession
Bride Fn Mary
Bride Sn PEARSE
Bride Age
Bride Residence Minster
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Bride Father Name
Bride Father Rank Profession
Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 William
Witness Sn1 Keals
Witness Fn2 Jenny
Witness Sn2 Pearse

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2014 14:53

Now this is well worth a read.

http://www.islandguide.co.uk/genealogy/lillicrapp-furrier.htm

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2014 14:29

Grace in 1841. They were all dressmakers apart from the last 5 who were servants, and 'not born in county' so Warwickshire is a mistake.


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Mount Street, St George Hanover Square, Middlesex, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Isabella Ricks Female 40 1801 Middlesex, England
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Mary Atkins Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England
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Louisa Pooley Female 30 1811 Warwickshire, England
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Ann Yarker Female 25 1816 Warwickshire, England
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Catherine Yarker Female 25 1816 Warwickshire, England
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>>Grace White Female 20 1821 Warwickshire, England
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Jane Stainer Female 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
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>>Fanny Spurrier Female 20 1821 Warwickshire, England
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Mary Spurrier Female 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
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Mary Ann Bligh Female 30 1811 Middlesex, England
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Maria Briant Female 20 1821 Warwickshire, England
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Ann Gander Female 15 1826 Middlesex, England
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Martha Poulton Female 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
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Emily King Female 15 1826 Middlesex, England
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Deborah Bates Female 20 1821 Warwickshire, England
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Hannah Downing Female 25 1816 Warwickshire, England
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Harriet Twitchet Female 20 1821 Warwickshire, England
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Jane Englefield Female 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
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Sarah Chapman Female 14 1827 Middlesex, England
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Walter Smallbones Male 15 1826 Warwickshire, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 7 Oct 2014 14:18

Brilliant............and much appreciated.

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2014 14:16


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Davies Street, Saint George Hanover Square, Middlesex, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Pierce Wm Lillicrapp Head Married Male 32 1819 Furrier L Draper Cornwall, England
Transcription
Grace Lillicrapp Wife Married Female 30 1821 - Horsegate Abbey, Essex, England
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Edward Lillicrapp Cousin Unmarried Male 22 1829 Assistant Draper Islington, Middlesex, England
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- Wornsern Assistant Unmarried Female 22 1829 Draperess Bath, Somerset, England
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Mary Ranel Servant Unmarried Female 27 1824 Servant Lincolnshire, England
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Edward Kers Ley Porter Unmarried Male 12 1839 Servant London, Middlesex, England




1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
19, Davies Street, St George Hanover Square, London, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Lillicrapp Head Married Male 40 1821 ...Employing 4 Woman Cornwall, England
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Grace Lillicrapp Wife Married Female 40 1821 - Essex, England
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Mary Weiller Assistant Unmarried Female 30 1831 ...Assistant Nottinghamshire, England
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Eliza Haynes Servant Married Female 29 1832 Cook Ireland
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Thomas Wittels Servant Unmarried Male 14 1847 Porter St George, Middlesex, England
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Thomas Peter Servant Unmarried Male 15 1846 Porter Kingsbridge, Middlesex, England




1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
27, Davies Street, St George Hanover Square, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Grace Lillicrap Head Widow Female 65 1816 Furrier Employing 2 Men And 4 Women Stanstead, Essex, England
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Louisa J Walker Niece Single Female 30 1851 Book Keeper Babcary, Somerset, England
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Robert D Holl Servant Single Male 26 1855 Furriers Assistant Norwich, Norfolk, England
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Elizabeth Knott Servant Single Female 20 1861 Gen Servant Dom Kent, England
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Shadrack Whittle Servant Single Male 19 1862 Porter Babcary, Somerset, England
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Charles Durrant Servant Single Male 15 1866 House Porter Dom Norfolk, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2014 14:08

Here's the marriage on fmp.


Westminster Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) GRACE
Last name WHITE
Marriage year 1847
Marriage day 24
Marriage month Feb
Parish St George, Hanover Square
Spouse's first name(s) WILLIAM PEARSE
Spouse's last name LILLICRAPP
Groom's age Full
Groom's parish -
Bride's age Full
Bride's parish -
County Middlesex
Record set Westminster Marriages
Category Life Events (BDMs)
Record collection Marriages & divorces
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He was a furrier of Davies Street. Father was Richard, a farmer. She was a spinster of Charles Street whose father was James, a farmer also.

James Fidderman? White, Fanny? Spheries?? and Grace White are all witnesses.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 7 Oct 2014 14:06

Thank you so much

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2014 14:05

BANKRUPTCY COURT, April 12.

(Before Mr. Commissioner Goulburn.) IN RE LILLICRAP. This was an application for certificate by William P. Lillicrap, of Davies-street, Berkeley -square, furrier. His Honour pronounced a suspension of the certificate (second class) for nine months from the date of the adjudication.

14 April 1856 - London Standard - London, London, England


His birth was found on fmp.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 7 Oct 2014 14:02

Thank you, alviegal............terrific! May I ask where you found that 'pearl'?

Thank you for looking, rootgatherer

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Oct 2014 14:00

Not seeing it Jacqueline.

alviegal

alviegal Report 7 Oct 2014 13:58

This appears to be his birth.


Cornwall Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) WILLIAM PEARSE
Last name LILLICRAP
Gender Male
Birth year 1820
Baptism year 1820
Baptism date 30 Jul 1820
Parish Lesnewth
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name LILLICRAP
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name -
Relationship Son
Place LESNEWTH
County Cornwall
Country England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 7 Oct 2014 13:58

Thank you for your time, Dea.

Appreciated..........

Background..........

First name(s) WILLIAM PEARSE
Last name LILLICRAPP
Marriage year 1847
Marriage day 24
Marriage month Feb
Parish St George, Hanover Square
Spouse's first name(s) GRACE
Spouse's last name WHITE
Groom's age Full
Groom's parish -
Bride's age Full
Bride's parish -
County Middlesex

Dea

Dea Report 7 Oct 2014 13:55

Couldn't see that one but, interestingly, there is this one in 1855 ??

His address looks like 26, North St., and she is from Buxton, Devon ??


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Grace White
Name: Grace White
Spouse: William Pearse
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 1855
Parish: Christ Church, St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register

There is no mention of 'Lillicrap' and it is only the Banns so no fathers or witnesses on there.

Dea x

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 7 Oct 2014 13:43

I'd be very grateful if someone would be kind enough to look on Ancestry for a London marriage in 1847.

William Pearse Lillicrapp to Grace White.

I appreciate that not all areas are transcribed, so I know that the info may not be available, but I'm crossing my fingers that it is, and that they both knew the names of their fathers

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Sep 2014 23:22

Always happy to help when I can :-)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 17 Sep 2014 22:39

Rambling Rose

Thank you so much for all the really helpful data: it is truly appreciated.