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Sarah .......................

remember that what Jessie Clark wrote was largely hearsay by 1976 and passed down family stories ..................


this means that there could be some errors in it.




I can't help you with GR records ............... I have never used them at all.


However, I do know that Scottish registration of births did not start until about 1855 ................ England and Wales began on July 1 1837.

You would have to look for Parish records of baptisms for these guys




I use ancestry .......................... but the full Scottish censuses (ie ability to look at the image and see what is actually on there) and bmd information are only available on Scotland's People.

Scotland's People is a "buy credits only" site ............. there are no subscriptions to it.


I gather it is possible to search for free, and see if the name is there, but then you have to buy the credits ................ I think someone said the other week that it was 5 credits to look at a record, but don't quote me on that :-).


I'm afraid that is where you are going to have to look, and decide how much you want to pay ................... helpers usually do not spend their own money on buying credits, although you may find someone kind enough to use a few credits that they have left and that have to be used by a certain date .................... however, wait until that is offered to you!

from ancestry



Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about Stewart Newall

Name: Stewart Newall
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 May 1843
Birth Place: , Durrisdeer, Dumfries, Scotland
Baptism Place: , Durrisdeer, Dumfries, Scotland
Father: Thomas Newall
Mother: Anne Dalziel
FHL Film Number: 1067961
Reference ID: - 2:161W1MC



no image

Is this your James Nairn on the 1851 Scotland Census??


Name: James Nairn
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Son
Father: Alexr Nairn
Mother: Margt Nairn
Gender: Male
Where born: Whithorn, wigtonshire
Parish Number: 900
Civil Parish: Whithorn
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County: Wigtownshire
Address: Cornton
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3A
Page: 5
Household schedule number: 15
LINE: 13
Roll: CSSCT1851_217

Alexr Nairn 61 b.ca 1790, Whithorn, Cropter 4 2/4 acres <<< think this should be Crofter
Margt Nairn 61 b.ca 1790, Glasserton, Wigtonshire
William Nairn 36 b.ca 1815, Whithorn, Son, Ag Lab
James Nairn 15




I can't see any other James Nairn from Wigton

and in 1841


1841 Scotland Census

Name: Alexr Nairn
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigtownshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Whithorn
County: Wigtownshire
Address: Corntown Croft
Occupation: H L W
Parish Number: 900

Alexr Nairn 48
Margt Nairn 46
John Nairn 7
James Nairn 5
Margt Nairn 9
Jannet Mcwilliam 55




neither the 1841 nor the 1851 Census show that Alexander's occupation was Schoolmaster :-S

Yes that is myJames Nairn thanks Sylvia. I had found those records already.
Agree with you that the "headmaster" reference appears to be incorrect. Jessie died in 1956 so must have written that piece earlier than that date. Her daughter would have supplied it for publication in 1976.
Looks like I need to get onto Scotlands People to find a birth record for James Nairn.
I also have photos of family graves in Wigtiwnshire, and transcriptions of those grave stones.
Really appreciate your help. :-)

you're very welcome.


Hope you find something on Scotland's People

Have had a play on SP and not really getting anywhere...have downloaded that 1851 census and the marriage of Alexander and Margaret - she was a McConnell - if you want these let me know and I will pm them. Not going to waste any more credits at the mo - no James Nairn (with parents Alexander and Margaret) born in Wigtownshire in the right time scale as far as I can see

Jude

Day Month 04-Apr
Year 1899
Parish Or Reg District Penzance, St. Mary
Groom Fn Sydney James
Groom Sn NEWALL
Groom Age 29
Groom Residence Luds?
Groom Condition bachelor
Groom Rank Profession commercial traveller
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Groom Father Name James Dalziel
Groom Father Rank Profession draper
Bride Fn Ada Maria
Bride Sn HAMLYN
Bride Age 29
Bride Residence Morab Road
Bride Condition spinster
Bride Rank Profession
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M) S
Bride Father Name George
Bride Father Rank Profession confectioner
Banns / Licence (B/L) B
Witness Fn1 George
Witness Sn1 Hamlyn
Witness Fn2 George Stanley
Witness Sn2 Hamlyn
Other Information J.D. Newall also a witness

(no help!, but relates to James D)


http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/person-search/

Chris :)

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

(snippets sometimes found in Newspapers!)

Thank you for looking on SP for me hey jude. Really appreciate that and did not expect anyone to use their own credits for this. How can I repay you?
I already have the 1851 census record thank you. (I was a member of ancestry about 5 years ago) :-)

Thank you Chris. I am already familiar with Papers Past.

Interesting that hey jude could find no record of James Nairn's birth on Scotland's People. What would you good people suggest I do next? Is the only other way to find the record to go to Wigtiwnnshire in person and search the church records?

well, registration of bmds did not start in Scotland until 1855, I believe


so yes, you are looking for a Baptism record.


I'm not sure ............... but have you tried searching on familysearch, the Mormon site?

Thank you Sylvia

None of the children were baptised as far as I can see....

Jude

Wigtownshire

St Ninian’s old churcyard Whithorn Monumental inscritption.

Sacred to the memory of Alex NAIRN late of Gorntown d.1 Jun 1854 aged 64yrs.

Also Margaret McCONNELL wife of the above who died at Gorntown d.22 Nov 1864 aged 74yrs.

Also Gordon NAIRN son of Alex NAIRN who died at Whithorn d.27 Oct 1860 aged 2yrs 5mths.

Also Jessie NAIRN daughter of William NAIRN d.9 Nov 1871 aged 9mths.

Also Jeannie Nisbet ANDREWS wife of Charles R. NAIRN d.4 Jun 1887 aged 25yrs.

Also Jeannie M. GORDON wife of Alexander NAIRN d.6 Oct 1891 aged 67yrs.

Also Alexander NAIRN d.30 Jan 1893 aged 70yrs.

Also William NAIRN who died at Bootle d.20 Oct 1903 aged 89yrs. (should be 59 yrs Dec Q W Derby 8b 243)

Also Robert NAIRN son of Alexander NAIRN.

http://www.highfields1.plus.com/family%20history/Nairn.html

(you probably have above, from google)

Chris :)

http://archives.govt.nz/resources/research-resources/searching-passenger-lists

(not seeing 'John Duncan' arrival online, a lot on google for that voyage 1863, about Maria S Rye aboard, looks like Archives would be the place)

Sarah "Thank you for looking on SP for me hey jude. Really appreciate that and did not expect anyone to use their own credits for this. How can I repay you?"

No worries - I normally buy a batch of credits each month or so as I have 25% Scottish ancestors. These were just sitting there so don't worry - my pleasure!

As I say, I can't see that ANY of the children were baptised. However, thinking out loud....there is a huge age span between the "children" and I wonder if perhaps the younger ones were grandchildren rather than children (even though Margaret would have been old enough)

These are Nairn births 1830 to 1850 in Wigtownshire

09/05/1846 NAIRN ALEXANDER GORDO ALEXANDER NAIRN/JANE GORDON FR122 (FR122) M WHITHORN /WIGTOWN 900/00 0020 0047
2 27/04/1850 NAIRN JAMES ALEXANDER NAIRN/JANE GORDON FR120 (FR120) M WHITHORN /WIGTOWN 900/00 0020 0047
3 14/04/1848 NAIRN JOHN GORDON ALEXANDER NAIRN/JANE GORDON FR122 (FR122) M WHITHORN /WIGTOWN 900/00 0020 0047
4 04/07/1844 NAIRN WILLIAM ALEXANDER NAIRN/JANE GORDON FR122 (FR122) M WHITHORN /WIGTOWN 900/00 0020 0047

Who knows if they are relevant (i.e. whether the Alexander is the same one) but no children of Alexander and Margaret...looking at Chirs' post we may have TWO separate Alexanders....which the births above would confirm

This is Gordon Nairn from Chris' post above I think

1858 NAIRN GORDON M WHITHORN /WIGTOWN 900/00 0040