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WW 2 dead.....updated & sorted Thank you.

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Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 27 Aug 2014 13:06

I have an insurmountable brick wall.......Help.please.......

2 brothers that I am unable to find a death for. Croydon family.''

Stephen Arthur Jackson born 1904.... married Amy Alice Snow 1925.
must have been divorced as Amy Alice married again 1938.
Stephen back living with parents (electoral roll 1939)

Benjamin James Jackson born 1910. No further information on him

One of the brothers known as Jack according to family information died at dunkirk. ? Certainly during the war. No one left alive can give me any further information.
Have not been able to find either on CWGC or FMP ww2 death records.

There is also a connection to Hull..... !!! ..... Have found a marriage of a Arthur S Jackson to Muriel Thompson Sep Q. 1941. Hull ?? But if he is Jack then1940 Dunkirk Death is not him...

Have tried to explain as best I can..... Thank you.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 13:25

Let's start with some documentary details

Births Mar 1910 (>99%)
JACKSON Benjamin James Croydon 2a 272

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
Jackson Stephen Arthur Croydon 2a 239

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16 Union Street Croydon, Croydon, Surrey, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Edward Jackson Head Married Male 29 1882 Surrey Croydon Bricklayers Labourer Image Transcription
Kate Jackson Wife Married Female 28 1883 - - Image Transcription
Stephen Arthur Jackson - - Male 7 1904 - - Image Transcription
Alfred George Jackson - - Male 3 1908 - - Image Transcription
James Benjaman Jackson - - Male 1 1910 - -

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 13:25

What a person was 'known' as, doesn't necessarily have any bearing on the correct name

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 13:28

Did SA perhaps reverse his names, as had been done with the brother in1911?

JACKSON ARTHUR S 1904 1951 1951 Deaths & burials Hull, Yorkshire, England

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 13:29

JACKSON JAMES B 1910 1912 1912 Deaths & burials Croydon, Surrey, England

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Flip

Flip Report 27 Aug 2014 13:29

They had changed his name around by the time of the christening:


James Benjamin Jackson
Baptism Date:4 Mar 1911
Archive Provided Parish:Croydon, St Andrew
Parish as it Appears:S. Andrew, Croydon
Father:Edward Jackson
Mother:Kate Jackson

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 13:30

Not Dunkirk, and possibly not relevant

First name(s) ALFRED G
Last name JACKSON
Death year 1942
Service number T/203761
Rank Lance Corporal
Regiment or unit Royal Army Service Corps
Record source GRO War Death Army Other Ranks (1939 to 1948)
Volume 12
Page 177
Record set British nationals armed forces deaths 1796-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

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Checked CWGC

definitely NOT your man

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 13:32

Who registered the deaths of the parents?

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 13:37

The only way to find out if the 1941 marriage was your relly is to get a copy of the cert for his father's details

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Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 27 Aug 2014 13:37

Thank you Jacqueline.I only put "Known as" because that is all the information my OH can give me...Uncle Jack died at Dunkirk...!!!!
These 2 brothers not accounted for out of a family of 10 The object is to find whether just one or both brothers died in WW2 . And ultimately which one had the nick name Jack

I have no other information for Benjaman James after the 1911 census. Have looked for death & marriage. nothing.

Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 27 Aug 2014 13:42

Blimey Jacqueline... Shows how slow I type.

Thank you. Silly me reversed names . of course.

The family lost 4 sons then by the looks of it.. I have confirmation of 2

Will sort through all this & send for some certs.... Thank you..

Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 27 Aug 2014 13:45

Flip.. Thank you...... Which sight do you use for Baptisms please.

Flip

Flip Report 27 Aug 2014 14:03

That one was from Ancestry - there is also the christening of Stephen Arthur (and they hadn't changed his name around):

Stephen Arthur Jackson
Baptism Date:14 May 1904
Archive Provided Parish:Croydon, St Andrew
Parish as it Appears:Croydon, St Andrew
Father:Edward Jackson
Mother:Kate Jackson
Reference Number:3188/1/3

Unfortunately no dob is given on register.

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Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 27 Aug 2014 14:07

Thankyou Flip.... Think I'll have to put ancestry on my xmas list.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 27 Aug 2014 14:56

It looks James died as a toddler

Print individual transcription View image
First name(s) JAMES B
Last name JACKSON
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1910
Age 2
Death quarter 4
Death year 1912
District CROYDON
County Surrey
Volume 2A
Page 345
Country England

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 15:43

Sorry to ask, but are you totally sure that this Uncle Jack was a Jackson?

Could he have been an uncle from the maternal line?

Jack was the common diminutive for John.

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Aug 2014 15:46

Are these the parents?

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
Jackson Edward Croydon 2a 391
Pickford Kate Edith Croydon 2a 391

There are no births for Jackson with MMN Pickford in Croydon

2 children had died before 1911 census

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Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 28 Aug 2014 15:10

Hi Jacqueline... No these are not his parents... They are Edward Jackson & Kate/Kathleen Simmon(d)s. Have M. cert. Also the birth/death certs for the 2 who died. 1st. & 3rd. children of 10.
Stephen Arthur was 2nd. My M in L was 6th. There is another possible death in 1917. George. ./mother Simmons.
Have ordered the Marriage cert for Arthur S Jackson that you kindly found for me & will go from there.Will take about 10 working days !! My how the price has shot up since I last ordered any.Was £7+ then
Went back to my electoral roll copy for 1939. He was registered as Arthur Stephen on there so it is looking good.

Thank you

Margaret in Sussex

Margaret in Sussex Report 2 Sep 2014 15:19

Have recieved Marriage cert for Arthur S Jackson today.

Definitely not the right one... In fact could hardly be more wrong.

Age , Condition, profession , father's name etc. All Wrong.....

So sadly back to square one ..

Am waiting for death cert of James B Jackson, but that , if the correct person , will only indicate that the brother referred to as "Jack" was Arthur Stephen Jackson.

So back to.. did he die during ww2 as OH said ? ...if so... Where is he hiding.? .

I have FMP copy of ww2 deaths other ranks.. for all Jackson's.. Unless I am missing something, he is not on there..

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 2 Sep 2014 22:43

Correcting the marriage pairing

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
Jackson Edward Croydon 2a 391
Simmonds Kate Croydon 2a 391

One birth after 1911 in Croydon
Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Jackson Kathleen Simmonds Croydon 2a 467

There are four later ones with no D in the MMN

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