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Pamela
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12 Aug 2014 06:36 |
Dear All, Good morning. I am looking into a gr aunt of a friend of mine. Alice Clark b. 1888 or 9 in Portsea Portsmouth who emigrated to Australia. We have information from a family tree on the internet belonging to a Bernard Tasker that she died in Murrunbeena, Victoria 1966. What we don't know is: 1. When she left Englad and did she leave England unmarried 2. whats her married name (she had five sons) How do I go about find more information ? Regards, Pam
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SylviaInCanada
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12 Aug 2014 07:14 |
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you could try the Australian National Archives site to see if you can find her entering the country
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx
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SylviaInCanada
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12 Aug 2014 07:18 |
Is this "your" Alice Clark in 1891????
1891 Census
Name: Alice Clark Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Louisa Clark Gender: Female Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Portsea Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Portsea County/Island: Hampshire Country: England
Registration district: Portsea Island Sub-registration district: Portsea Town ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Louisa Clark 31 b.ca 1860, Netherbury, Dorset, Wife of Stoker in R.N. Charley Clark 7 b.ca 1884, Hawkley, Hampshire May Clark 4 b.ca 1887, Portsmouth Alice Clark 2
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SylviaInCanada
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12 Aug 2014 07:22 |
and in 1901
Name Age Louisa Clark 41 b.ca 1860, Leatherbury, Dorset, Married, Laundress Thomas Clark 19 b.ca 1882, Hawksley, Hampshire Charles Clark 19 b.ca 1884, Hawksley <<<<<< his age on the image is actually 17 Mary Clark 14 b.ca 1887, Portsmouth Alice Clark 12
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Pamela
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12 Aug 2014 07:25 |
Yes........this is the family. Thanks Sylivian. Alice moved to Aussie. but we are at a loss to know when. Thanks for your advice about the Australian Archives. We have two possible married names for her, Jacbos and Pinnington but at prescent this is guess work Cheers, Pam Portsmouth
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Pamela
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12 Aug 2014 07:25 |
Yes........this is the family. Thanks Sylivian. Alice moved to Aussie. but we are at a loss to know when. Thanks for your advice about the Australian Archives. We have two possible married names for her, Jacbos and Pinnington but at prescent this is guess work Cheers, Pam Portsmouth
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SylviaInCanada
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12 Aug 2014 07:27 |
trouble is ..................... she has a common name!
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SylviaInCanada
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12 Aug 2014 07:32 |
could Jacbos be Jacobs????
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Pamela
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12 Aug 2014 07:35 |
Yeaph........sorry is Jacobs. Tell me about it........... Clarke was my maiden name.............and my family of Clarkes lived in the same road as this family of Clarks !!!! :-D
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Gee
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12 Aug 2014 11:49 |
I'm wondering if this is her birth registration and she interchanged her name between 'Marion' & 'Alice'
Births Dec 1888 CLARK Alice Marion Portsea 2b 474
Here is a death that could be a possible
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name:Marion Alice Connor
Death Place:Murchison, Victoria
Age:77
Father's Name:Thomas Clarke
Mother's name:Louisa Legg
Registration Year:1966
Registration Place:Victoria
Registration Number:14814
Estimated birth year:abt 1889
springvale botanical cemetery Connor Marion Alice Cremated 20/07/1966 Dodonaea, Wall G, Niche 04
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Gee
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12 Aug 2014 13:00 |
Did she marry before she went to OZ
Marriages Sep 1908
CLARKE Marion Alice Portsmouth 2b 969 CONNOR Edward Portsmouth 2b 969
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1911 England Census
Name:Alice Marion Connor
Age in 1911:22
Estimated birth year:abt 1889
Relation to Head:Grand Child
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Portsea, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish:Empshott Hawkley
County/Island:Hampshire
Country:England
Street address:Emma Clarke, Upper Green, Hawkley, W Liss
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:2
Estimated Marriage Year:1909
Registration district:Petersfield
Registration District Number:106
Sub-registration district:Petersfield
ED, institution, or vessel:8 Household schedule number:73 Piece:6177
Household Members:
Emma Clarke 73 Alice Marion Connor 22 Alice Marion Connor 1 Edward Connor 2/12
And did Edward die in England
Deaths Dec 1927 (>
Connor Edward 41 Portsmouth 2b 638
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Gee
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12 Aug 2014 13:07 |
Wonder if this is her. The address given is 5 Queens Grove, Purbrook, this is very close to Portsmouth
UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name:Marion A Connor
Gender:Female
Age:65
Birth Date:abt 1888
Departure Date:4 Jun 1953
Port of Departure:London, England
Destination Port:Melbourne, Australia
Ship Name:Mooltan
Shipping line:P and O
Official Number:79866
Master:H P Mallet ------------------------------------------------------------
Been digging around and I'm pretty sure that this is her husband. For the full details at the National Archives, you would need to pay £3.30
Reference:ADM 337/30/289
Name Connor, Edward Service Number: Z/8514 RNVR Division: Clyde Date of Birth: 28 July 1888
Date: 1915-1917
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Former references: in its original department: Vol No 12
Legal status: Public Record
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Gee
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12 Aug 2014 17:53 |
I think this is one of Marion Alice' sons
UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name:C T Connor <<Of 19 Queens Grove, Purbrook, Portsmouth, Gov Officer
Birth Date:abt 1924
Age:28
Port of Departure:Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date:17 Mar 1952
Port of Arrival:London, England
Ports of Voyage: Colombo[Bombay]
Ship Name:Carthage
Shipping line:Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number:162658
Edit:
Births Jun 1924
Connor Cyril T Clarke Portsmouth 2b 709
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MarieCeleste
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12 Aug 2014 19:43 |
Hello Pam, on which site does Bernard Tasker have this information?
Is it not possible to contact him for further info?
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Mary
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12 Aug 2014 20:00 |
Louisa legg born 1860 Netherbury Dorset married Charles Clark 2/11/1879. Her dad Job Legg his dad George Clark.
George Clarke 1832 married Emma Meacham according to trees on ancestry,please check.
So looks like the Emma Clark off 1911 census above.
Maryb.
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Pamela
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13 Aug 2014 06:33 |
To Gins, Mary and Marie Celeste, Good morning all. Can't thank you all enouth for your help............due to my friend having very little knowledge of her gr aunt this quest has been like a "brick wall"............but all of what you have found makes sense........... the most confusing thing is the name "Marion", ........Bernard Tasker, I found out yester is on GR, so have left a message for him and two other poeple that look like they have this Alice Clark on their trees. My friend is hoping to find relatives in Aussie before she goes there in October. I will follow all your information up. Regards, Pam near uk :-D :-D
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Pamela
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13 Aug 2014 06:34 |
To Gins, Mary and Marie Celeste, Good morning all. Can't thank you all enouth for your help............due to my friend having very little knowledge of her gr aunt this quest has been like a "brick wall"............but all of what you have found makes sense........... the most confusing thing is the name "Marion", ........Bernard Tasker, I found out yester is on GR, so have left a message for him and two other poeple that look like they have this Alice Clark on their trees. My friend is hoping to find relatives in Aussie before she goes there in October. I will follow all your information up. Regards, Pam near uk :-D :-D
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Pamela
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13 Aug 2014 07:04 |
PS reading through your information.......it looks like Alice emigrated with her son in the 50's and not as myfriend thouth in the 1900's. Cheers Pam
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Cherilyn
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15 Aug 2014 02:47 |
Hi Pam
I only just found this, from Gins but I see she has already posted this death!
Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Surname: CONNOR Given Names: Marion Alice Father: Clarke Thomas Mother: Louisa LEGG Death Place: MURR Age: 77 Year: 1966 Reg Number: 14814 Event: D
It is Murrumbeena by the by (not Murrunbeena), Are those parents names correct?
you mentioned other possible surnames, nothing for Pinnington
Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Surname: JACOBS Given Names: Alice Mary Father: Clark Hy Chas Mother: Emily DENMAN Death Place: OLEIGH Age: 65 Year: 1952 Reg Number: 12379 Event: D
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Cherilyn
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15 Aug 2014 02:49 |
Possible deaths for her husband?
Surname: CONNOR Given Names: Edw Father: Connor John Alfred Mother: Ellen GROUBSKY Death Place: BDALE Age: 55 Year: 1943 Reg Number: 15072 Event: D
Surname: CONNOR Given Names: Edward Father: Unknown Mother: UNKNOWN Death Place: FRAN Age: 78 Year: 1975 Reg Number: 22250 Event: D
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