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10 Aug 2014 19:11 |
I am a bit confused with the Occupation of : Prinde Wife 103rd Rginergpet. Can anyone Help ? Thank you, Syd
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alviegal
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10 Aug 2014 19:13 |
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Gunner from Leith, Scotland.
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Print individual transcription View image First name(s) William Last name Ross Relationship - Marital condition - Gender Male Age 38 Birth year 1833 Birth town - Birth county Scotland House number - House name - Street Barracks Parish Of Subdeanry, New Broyle Road Parish Subdeanry City or borough Chichester Town - Village - County Sussex Country England Municipal ward - Parliamentary borough - Ecclesiastical District - Registration district Chichester
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ArgyllGran
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10 Aug 2014 23:17 |
"Prinde Wife 103rd Rginergpet." is one of the mistranscriptions I mentioned, Syd.
If you look at the version of the 1871 census record posted by alviegal, it reads: Private A M 103rd Regiment Of Foot
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ArgyllGran
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10 Aug 2014 23:31 |
The 1871 which William has already identified, and which I posted for our reference, is the correct one, with William living with his sister Catherine and her husband Andrew.
But the gunner from Leith may well be the one who died in 1880. If you view the image on SP, Syd, you'll find out whether it's your William who died, or some other William Ross.
The military record you found, Alviegal, re the man who was discharged in 1875, seems very likely the right one.
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ArgyllGran
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10 Aug 2014 23:52 |
If he didn't die in 1880, and if he was a bookbinder before joining the army, I wonder if this could be him in 1891, in a vaguely related job?
1891 Scotland Census about William Ross Name: William Ross Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Edinr, Midlothian Registration Number: 685/4 Registration district: St Giles Civil Parish: Edinburgh New North County: Midlothian Address: 13 Blair Street Occupation: Printer Compositor <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ED: 15 Household schedule number: 46 LINE: 7 Roll: CSSCT1891_350 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Fowler 59 Catherine Fowler 60 Mary G Fowler 22 John Brown 60 Frank Buchanan 44 William Ross 60 (and lots of other lodgers)
And maybe in 1881, though the age is a few years out:
1881 Scotland Census about William Ross Name: William Ross Age: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Edinburgh Registration Number: 424 Registration district: Dunfermline Civil Parish: Dunfermline Town: Dunfermline County: Fife Occupation: Printer Compositor <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ED: 10 Household schedule number: 248 LINE: 7 Roll: cssct1881_117 Household Members: Name Age George Clark 78 Margaret Clark 78 William Ross 52
1901???
1901 Scotland Census about William Ross Name: William Ross Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relationship: Patient Gender: Male Where born: Midlothian, Edinburgh Registration Number: 685/3 Registration district: Canongate Civil Parish: Edinburgh Canongate County: Midlothian Address: Edinburgh Occupation: Compositor Formerly <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ED: Queensberry House Household schedule number: 1 LINE: 11 Roll: CSSCT1901_381 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Hogg 59 Janet Hogg 21 John Russell 67 Peter Turbot 78 Alexander Munro 83 John Nicolson 75 Alexander Thomson 66 James Forman 86 Thomas Smail 69 Thomas Waterston 67 John Pentland 75 William Ross 70 (and many other patients)
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Syd
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11 Aug 2014 09:26 |
Thank you Alviegal & Argyllgran for the additional information that you kindly posted. Best regards, Syd
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ArgyllGran
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11 Aug 2014 11:12 |
I'm not saying the printer compositor is your William, necessarily, Syd. It's just a suggestion!
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Syd
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11 Aug 2014 11:42 |
Yes I do realise that but as his occupation was a bookbinder on his Army records it could be a possibility. Thank you once again. Regards, Syd
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alviegal
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11 Aug 2014 12:59 |
I think this was confirmed as the 1851 for Hugh and William? The occupation is not bookbinder though. Of course, he could have become one in the 9 years before he signed up, if that is his service record.
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pleasance, 48, St Cuthbert's, Barony of Canongate, Midlothian, Scotland Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Hugh Ross Head Widower Male 61 1790 Mason NIGG, ROSSSHIRE Transcription >>William Ross Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Shopkeeper Confectioner EDINR, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND Transcription Mary Ross Daughter-In-Law Widow Female 25 1826 Dress Maker EDINR, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND Transcription >>Hugh Ross Grand Son - Male 2 1849 - EDINR, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND Transcription Ann Craig Boarder Widow Female 71 1780 Pauper NOCHOLAS, ABERDEEN Transcription Margaret Robertson Lodger - Female 11 1840 Scholar EDINR, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND Transcription Ann Hilson Lodger - Female 9 1842 Scholar EDINR, MIDLOTHIAN, SCOTLAND Transcription Robert Conquer Lodger - Male 6 1845 Scholar ENGLAND
Possible 1841.
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Lawn Market Riddles Close, 322, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Print household transcription Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Hugh Ross Male 45 1796 Scotland Occupation Mason J Isabella Ross Female 43 1798 Scotland Transcription Catharine Ross Female 18 1823 Midlothian, Scotland Transcription John Ross Male 16 1825 Midlothian, Scotland Occupation Printer Ap Duncan Ross Male 14 1827 Midlothian, Scotland Occupation Smith Ap >>William Ross Male 10 1831 Midlothian, Scotland Transcription Michel Beveridge Male 20 1821 Scotland Transcription Thomas Beveridge Male 18 1823 Scotland Transcription William Wright Male 19 1822 Scotland Transcription David Reid Male 17 1824 Scotland
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alviegal
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11 Aug 2014 13:23 |
Is this William's birth?
1) Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about William Ross Name: William Ross Gender: Male Birth Date: 11 May 1831 Birth Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Hugh Ross Mother: Isabella Robertson FHL Film Number: 1066691
and siblings.
2) Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about John Ross Name: John Ross Gender: Male Birth Date: 18 Jan 1826 Birth Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Baptism Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Hugh Ross Mother: Isabella Robertson FHL Film Number: 1066691 Reference ID: 2:17PVTGG
and John's marriage.
Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 about John Ross Name: John Ross Gender: Male Marriage Date: 18 Jun 1847 Marriage Place: Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland Spouse: Mary Craig FHL Film Number: 1066696
3) Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about Duncan Ross Name: Duncan Ross Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 Apr 1828 Birth Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Baptism Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Hugh Ross Mother: Isabella Robertson FHL Film Number: 1066691 Reference ID: 2:18KXMR7
and his marriage, according to a tree on ancestry. Daughter Martha was born in 1857.
Year Of Marriage 1856 First name(s) DUNCAN Last name ROSS Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1856 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ DUNCAN ROSS married SARAH ANN WHYTE Spouse's last name - District GREENWICH County London Country England Volume 1D Page 935
4) Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about Alexander Ross Name: Alexander Ross Gender: Male Birth Date: 2 Mar 1820 Birth Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Baptism Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Hugh Ross Mother: Isobel Robertson FHL Film Number: 1066691 Reference ID: 2:17PQKLC
5) Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about Duncan Ross Name: Duncan Ross Gender: Male Birth Date: 4 Jan 1824 Birth Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Baptism Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Hugh Ross Mother: Isobel Robertson FHL Film Number: 1066691 Reference ID: 2:17PTBJ5
6) Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 about Catherine Ross Name: Catherine Ross Gender: Female Birth Date: 22 Apr 1822 Birth Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Baptism Place: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Hugh Ross Mother: Ichbald_ Robertson FHL Film Number: 1066691 Reference ID: 2:17PS3SG
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Syd
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11 Aug 2014 14:29 |
Hi Alviegal, Yes you have the correct family, Duncan Ross (1) born 1824, d. 1825. Duncan Ross(2) was my G.G.Grandfather he was born to Hugh & Isabella 1828 and Married Sarah Ann Whyte in 1856 at Woolwich, he died in India 1862 of Rabies. The Alexander Ross b. 1820 is the only person I have never been able to find and I am wondering if maybe he died as a child. Thank you for your help. Regards, Syd
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ArgyllGran
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11 Aug 2014 16:14 |
Apart from a large number of Alexander Ross deaths 1820-41, which would mean spending a lot of credits to view the parents' names on all the records, there's this possibility below, but almost impossible to know if he's the right one or not. Interestingly, he's a bookbinder!
1851 Scotland Census about Alexander Ross Name: Alexander Ross Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1820 Relationship: Head Spouse: Isabella Ross Gender: Male Where born: Edinburgh Parish Number: 821 Civil Parish: Dumfries Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Dumfriesshire Address: Friars Vennel Occupation: Bookbinder ED: 5 Page: 7 Household schedule number: 28/2 LINE: 13 Roll: CSSCT1851_206 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Ross 31 Isabella Ross 32 James W Ross 2
As Isabella was born in Morton, Dumfries-shire, this would be their marriage. His father's name might perhaps be on the image, but info on old parish records (pre 1855) tends to be minimal. 30/11/1847 ROSS ALEXANDER ISABELLA WALLACE/FR348 (FR348) M MORTON /DUMFRIES 843/00 0020 0170
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ArgyllGran
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11 Aug 2014 16:36 |
Another shot in the dark. How tantalising, but impossible to verify!
1841 Scotland Census about Alexr Ross Name: Alexr Ross Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Midlothian, Scotland Civil Parish: Duddingston and South Leith County: Midlothian Address: Tobacco Street Occupation: Labourer Parish Number: 684 Household Members: Name Age Robert Williamson 12 - labourer John Williamson 10 Ann Williamson 48 - grocer Margt Williamson 21 Nicolas Williamson 18 Alexr Ross 20 James Wkay [McKay ??] 20 - bottlemaker James Watt 25 - potter William Mitchell 14 - potter
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31 Aug 2015 19:19 |
Help!! I am trying to find details of the life of Isabelle Mackenzie,b. 1826. married George Ross in 1849 in the old school house in Nigg. George was b.about 1826 in Edinburgh parish and is described as a stone cutter or mason. They had at least 7-8 children and by 1881 were in the census for Edinborough. We know nothing of either family. Also my gggrandfather, John Lindsay. Married Margaret Eggo and lived in Cortachy,Clova and Angus. Margaret was baptised in z,1783. Of either the Lindsay or the Eggo we know nothing. William Graham b. 1856 in Ayr and married a Martha Craig. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you all. Ann Ross
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alviegal
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31 Aug 2015 21:19 |
Ann
Instead of adding on to this thread, why don't you start your own thread?
Just click on the 'Find Ancestors' in the box on the left hand side and add the message you've typed out. You could cut and paste the one above.
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