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St Clements Road School, Admission and Discharge Register for boys:

William Littlejohn
DOB: 20 Sep 1887
Parent: Matthew
Admission Date: 26 Aug 1895
date of leaving: Feb 1897
Address: 8 St Georges Road
Last school attended: Earl's Court

Interestingly there is a William Littlejohn, born Shebbear, living in London from 1881, married to an Annie, who has daughters with the same names as Matthew : Dorothy, Edith; also a Frances.

Had seen it too Potty- will look into it

Surely the b. 1887 Wm Littlejohn is Matthew's son - the one in the army. Matthew had an elder brother William, born in Shebbear. maybe he married Annie and they both used family names for their children - though Frances was more a Tillott name than a Littlejohn name I think. Or was Matthew a bigamist? But then most of the children allocated to Matthew and Ellen Jane appear on censuses with these two as parents and in the same household.
Potty: many thanks for unravelling the addresses. How do we know that Gladys wrote changing the NOK? Did I miss that? And - sorry - I'm not sure what the form was in 1920 listing the family.

Potty: Sorry - have just been back over the ground and seen your allusion to Gladys writing on your previous post .
Helen: many thanks for the further on Edith. I wonder if she nursed n the war. The town is probably, Mazingarbe - is that possible from what you can see? - which is in the Pas de Calais region of northern France - but the war was well over by the time it's her last known residence. William's attestation v interesting. Is there one for Cyril who is the immediate family connection in the case? Did you use Find My Past? I used to use FMP but find its new search facility very cumbersome - and my limited skills can't get it to oblige.

Odd that the name William comes up on William's Army Attestation and on his sister's marriage. Does Cyril give a NOK on his Attestation?

There is a tree on Ancestry with Lillie Mabel in it. The owner posted only yesterday so is obviously active. She does have her baptism and marriage details and has added a comment the her father is William on the marriage cert. She hasn't gone further back with Lillie, possibly because of the difference in father's name.

Another tree on there has a photo of Lillie, as well as photo's of Frances Tillot and John Brooks. This tree has her parents and siblings. The owner was last on the site 5 days ago.

OMG, my head is spinning with Lttlejohns!!- I just created a tempory tree to sort out how William and Ann are connected- still don't know yet and reluctant to put anything here yet as I think it might confuse things, BUT at least two of their daughters were nurses in 1911- I'll get back to it in a bit.

The Edith record is definately Mazingarbe

William's attestation was from FMP

I did post about Cyril's details on FMP a couple a pages back (I think?)
details for Cyril as follows:
British Royal Air Force, Officers' Service Records
Cyril Littlejohn dob: 11th March 1890
Next of Kin: Mrs Littlejohn, mother- There is an address in Notting Hill that I can't read- Hea?hesius Road. This is crossed out and replaced with Croydon Road, Beckenham, Kent. The sheet this is on is dated 3rd July 1918. I'll send ce and potty a copy by pm (give me a moment, computer's on go slow mode)

On the following page of his records is-
Occupation in Civil Life: Engineer (1907- 1911) at London Engineering, Richmond Palce, Earl's Court.

Potty- the tree on Ancestry is one of my tempory trees :-D

I'm in a whirl now. If I knew how to do it I could post the Littlejohn tree I've drawn up with all the info so far. Will have a go. The other William, if he is the brother (and the birth dates fi, - and brother William was in the right household in Milton Damerel (the parish that Shebbear is in) when they lived in Devon at Gitcott Mill - and also subsequently in Glamorgan) perhaps took on some of the family of his brother?.

Just a word of caution, on getting the two families mixed up, my grandfather's children and his brothers' children had the same names, but different DOBs. So need to check birth dates carefully :-)

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name:Edith Mary Littlejohn
Gender:Female
Age:40
Birth Date:abt 1885
Departure Date:17 Oct 1925
Port of Departure:Southampton, England
Destination Port:New York, USA
Ship Name:Berengaria

Occupation - nurse


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name:Edith Mary Littlejohn
Arrival Date:4 Sep 1936
Birth Date:abt 1885
Birth Location:England
Birth Location Other:London
Age:51
Gender:Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality:American;English (American)
Place of Origin:United States of America
Friend's Name:D Littlejohn
Port of Departure:Southampton, England
Port of Arrival:New York, New York
Ship Name:Berengaria

occupation - nurse


(several incoming and outgoing journeys)


Shipping line:
Cunard Line

Official Number:
144307

Master:
W R D Swine

travelling with Dorothy -

again several journeys back and forth, including one with all 3 sisters


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name:Gladys Littlejohn
Gender:Female
Age:30
Birth Date:abt 1899
Departure Date:28 Sep 1929
Port of Departure:Southampton, England
Destination Port:Havre
Ship Name:Samaria

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name:Dorothy Victoria Littlejohn
Birth Date:4 May 1897
Date of Registration:Jun 1975
Age at Death:78
Registration district:Haringey
Inferred County:Greater London

Volume:12
Page:2032

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name:Edith Mary Littlejohn
Birth Date:21 Dec 1884
Date of Registration:Mar 1970
Age at Death:85
Registration district:Haringey
Inferred County:Greater London

Volume:5b
Page:2507

Despite their apparent bad start in life, all three of the boys seem to have done well in their Army careers - Cyril becoming a Lieutenant and Leslie's record shows him as Clerk and well thought of.

Cyril's medal card show that he entered the war In France in 1914, in the Royal Flying Corps. There was probably another record from then until he was commissioned.

possible info for Matthew's daughter, Nellie May Littlejohn:

1901living with Elliott family:
Ellen M Littlejohn
Relationship Servant
Marital condition Single
Age 17
Birth year 1884
Occupation General Servant (Domestic)
Birth county London
House number 157
Street Harrowby Street
Parish Toxteth Park
County Lancashire
Municipal ward Granby
Parliamentary borough East Toxteth
Registration district Toxteth Park
Enumeration district 90
Series RG13
Piece number 3438
Folio number 125
Page 17

1911- living with Cuff family:
Nellie May Littlejohn
Relationship to household head Servant
Age 27
Birth year 1884
Occupation Cook
Birth place London Kensington
Address Woodside Little Bookham Leatherhead Surrey
Parish Little Bookham
Registration district Epsom
County Surrey
Subdistrict Leatherhead
Enumeration district 12
Census reference RG14
Census reference RG14PN2978 RG78PN103 RD31 SD3 ED12 SN283
Piece number 2978

Only possible marriage I can see for her:

Marriages Jun 1912
LITTLEJOHN Nellie M Tyler W.Ham 4a 555
TYLER John Littlejohn W.Ham 4a 555

Thank you Helen. I'm on to John now. Bet he got killed in the war, to add to the general pattern of misfortunes. But I'm glad one of them found a mate.

Oh dear, you may be right- I don't see any children for the marriage.

Thought this might be of interest:

Proceedings of the Central Criminal Court, 3rd March 1908, page 49

SCOTT, Edward (18, labourer) ; robbery with violence upon Nellie May Littlejohn, and stealing from her one fur stole.

Mr. Kershaw prosecuted.

NELLIE MAY LITTLEJOHN .I am a domestic servant, in service at Kensington. On Sunday, January 26 last, I was walking along Bethnal Green Road, between half-past six and a quarter to seven. I was then wearing a fur boa, which was taken from the back of me. Two of the boys ran away, and I turned to the third (the prisoner) and said, "Did you see that boy take my fur?" He immediately gave me a heavy blow at the side of my face with his fist and another blow at the back of my neck and ran away. I felt dazed and after walking on a little way I spoke to a policeman. I have never seen my fur since. I went to Commercial Street Police Station the same evening and picked the prisoner out of about a dozen persons....

There's a little more- you can also view the original
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?path=sessionsPapers%2F19080303.xml

Helen : The old Bailey is wonderful stuff: have read the whole spiel (many thanks for link). I'm glad she could afford a fur and hope she could save up for another one for her wedding! I've looked for John Tyler on war records but there were too many. V inconsiderate of the parents to call him JohnI
Was working on the stuff about Wm's schooling for which also thanks. Pity there's no address for the school. Can't pinpoint it - Kensington & Chelsea & Notting Hill all had / have St Clements sthg schools but the L's were in all boroughs. Demonstrates how peripatetic they were, however.