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Gee

Gee Report 30 Jul 2014 14:37

You said John(1914) was one of five children. Here they are


England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005

Name:Daniel McMahon

Mother's Maiden Surname:Foley

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1916

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume Number:8a

Page Number:794

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England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005

Name:Evelyn R McMahon

Mother's Maiden Surname:Foley

Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1920

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume Number:8a

Page Number:923

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England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005

Name:Mary B McMahon

Mother's Maiden Surname:Foley

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1922

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume Number:8a

Page Number:44

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name:Patrick J McMahon

Mother's Maiden Name:Foley

Registration Year:1913

Registration Quarter:Jul-Aug-Sep

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume:8a

Page:911

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name:John McMahon

Mother's Maiden Name:Foley

Registration Year:1914

Registration Quarter:Oct-Nov-Dec

Registration district:Birkenhead

Inferred County:Cheshire

Volume:8a

Page:810

Nicola

Nicola Report 30 Jul 2014 21:55

Thanks all especially Gins, can't believe I missed all that info on Free BMD.
I should know better, family memories are helpful but often well off the mark.
Have loads of info now to research.
Thanks again

Nicola

Nicola Report 30 Jul 2014 22:44

John McMahon born 1887 Ireland, married Mary Foley 1912, Birkenhead( all this info thanks to your help) John had a sister Theresa McMahon who married a Moreland(don't know correct spelling) and stayed in Ireland. Looking to find the parents of John and Theresa?
Info from family memories, so maybe well off the mark but need to check for a birth of John and Theresa birth and hopefully parents in confirm whereabouts these McMahon's came from.

Gee

Gee Report 31 Jul 2014 06:15

Hi Nicola

Do you know when Theresa McMahon was born, roughly?

Did John (1887) have any other siblings that you know of?



Nicola

Nicola Report 1 Aug 2014 21:03

Thanks Gins for your help, i have asked the family and they don't have any more info about Theresa Birth or if there were more siblings.
They know? that she stayed in Ireland and married a Morland or similar spelling, I have spent quite a bit searching Rootsireland for john and Theresa with no results.
The most likely birth of John is the one that you found in Tulla in 1886.
Any advice you can offer me on where to go next to find their parents would be great.
Thanks again to all.

Gee

Gee Report 2 Aug 2014 06:52

Hi Nicola

You would need to send for the birth certificate for John (1887) from the GRO Ireland to identify his parents

Are you sure Teresa was born in Ireland, I'm not seeing a birth for her, there is this?


Liverpool, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906


Name:Teresa McMahon

Birth Date:18 Feb 1882

Baptism Date:24 Feb 1882

Parish:St Anne, Lancashire, England

Father's Name:Patritii Mcmahon

Mother's name:Maria Farrell



This looks like the parents (marriage) of the above


Liverpool, England, Catholic Marriages, 1754-1921

Name:Mariam Farrell

Marriage Date:8 Nov 1868

Parish:Oratory of St Philip Neri, Lancashire, England

Spouse's Name:Patricum McMahon

Father's Name:Edwardi

Spouse Father's Name:Joannis


Nicola

Nicola Report 2 Aug 2014 23:33

Thanks Gins again, I will send for birth cert to confirm but your info looks like this is the right family. Lesson learned family info is no more than a rough guideline.
Thanks again

Nicola

Nicola Report 6 Aug 2014 23:36

I have sent off for the marriage cert of John Mcmahon and Mary Foley in 1912, before I purchase his birth cert, confused about John's sister Teresa being born in Uk? and still yet to find Teresa's marriage to Mr Morland apparently in Ireland?
No doubt I will need your help again.
Thanks

Nicola

Nicola Report 7 Aug 2014 21:31

Related to the above I am looking for the parents of Gladys M Beasley born 1913, Alma Beasley born 1915, Margaret and Nellie Beasley born 1918, Ethel M Beasley born 1921, John H Beasley born 1923. All born in Swansea and mothers maiden name Currier, maybe more Beasley/Currier children including James Beasley who died aged 18 on a frozen lake? I have searched 1911 and BMD's with no results for a Beasley/Currier marriage?

Gee

Gee Report 8 Aug 2014 08:29

Hi Nicola

I've done some digging and I'm pretty sure that this is the marriage and parents of the above



Marriages Sep 1904

Beasely John Wycombe 3a 1751
Curryer Jane Mary Wycombe 3a 1751


Jane Mary/Mary Jane appears on censuses with parents John & Caroline up to 1901

Here she is with her husband



1911 Wales Census

Name:Jane Mary Beasley

Age in 1911:30

Estimated birth year:abt 1881

Relation to Head:Wife

Gender:Female

Birth Place:Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish:Swansea

County/Island:Glamorgan

Street address:12 Roseberry Terrace Landore N Swansea

Marital Status:Married

Years Married:9

Estimated Marriage Year:1902

Registration district:Swansea

Registration District Number:594

Sub-registration district:Llangafelach

ED, institution, or vessel:11
Household schedule number:70
Piece:32748

Household Members:


John Beasley 30 <<Northants.....Brick yard labourer
Jane Mary Beasley 30
Hilda Beasley 7 <<Buckinghamshire
Emily Francis Beasley 5 <<Buckinghamshire
Voilet May Beasley <<Oxfordshire

One child has died

Possible child that died



Deaths Dec 1907

BEASLEY Albert Lancaster 2 Wycombe 3a 459





Nicola

Nicola Report 10 Aug 2014 18:01

great work finding the Beasley info, from that I have been able to find the Curryer's in the earlier census and the marriage of John Curryer and Caroline Pratt in 1878, Wycombe. Thanks Gins

Gee

Gee Report 10 Aug 2014 18:36

Nic

You're on the right trail, well done :-)

If you ever need further help, post back here

x

Nicola

Nicola Report 10 Aug 2014 19:50

I always need help.
Been looking for the birth of John Beasley born 1880 and found a 1881 census for him (John Baseley) in Daventry aged 0, parents George and Mary Ann Baseley, other children Aaron, Phoebe,George, Julia with John the youngest.
Thinking this could be his family but found no other results to back it up?
So easy to follow the wrong trail.

Gee

Gee Report 11 Aug 2014 08:40

Hi

You would need the marriage certificate to check his fathers details

Ref above

Nicola

Nicola Report 13 Aug 2014 20:44

Got marriage cert for John McMahon and Mary foley 17th Sept 1912 Birkenhead.
John's Father is Patrick McMahon(deceased) Baker Journeyman
Mary Foley's Father Daniel Foley (deceased) Railway labourer
No mention of Ireland? the 1911 census for both john and mary give their birth place as Kerry Ireland?
need to find both father's in census? the married couple where born in 1884 and 1886? This is driving me mad, you get a cert and think it has all the answers but no just more questions...

safc

safc Report 13 Aug 2014 20:52

????

Census Years
1901
Kerry
Caher
Main Street
Residents of a house

Residents of a house 6 in Main Street (Caher, Kerry)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
McMahon Patrick 51 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Cahirciveen Baker Read and write Irish and English Married - xxxxxxxxx
McMahon Bridget 40 Female Wife R C Cahirciveen - Read and write Irish and English Married -
McMahon Patrick 19 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Assistant Baker Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Catherine 18 Female Daughter R C Cahirciveen Shop Maid Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Timothy 16 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Assistant Baker Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon John 14 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read and write English Not Married - xxxxxxxxxxx
McMahon Mary 13 Female Daughter R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Denis 12 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Daniel 10 Male Son R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read and write English Not Married -
McMahon Bridget 7 Female Daughter R C Cahirciveen Scholar Read - Not Married -
McMahon Michael 5 Male Son R C - Scholar - - Not Married -
McMahon Margaret 2 Female Daughter R C - - - - Not Married -
McMahon Helena 1 Female Daughter R C - - - - Not Married -
Moriarty Catherine 70 Female Mother in Law R C - -

safc

safc Report 13 Aug 2014 21:17

????


Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - CAHERCIVEEN

Baptism of JOHN MC MAHON of CAHERCIVEEN on 12 August 1886

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Name JOHN MC MAHON
Date of Birth 11 August 1886
Address CAHERCIVEEN
Father PATRICK NR
Mother BRIDGET MORIARTY
Further details in the record
Father Occupation NR
Sponsor 1 PATRICK LYNCH
Sponsor 2 HONORA LYNCH
Priest CANON BROSNAN
About the record
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
2 N/R 11 KY-RC-BA-106894

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http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

safc

safc Report 13 Aug 2014 21:56

????

Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - CASTLEMAINE

Baptism of MARY FOLEY of BALLYNAMONA on 9 November 1888

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Name MARY FOLEY
Date of Birth 5 November 1888
Address BALLYNAMONA
Father DANIEL FOLEY
Mother MARY COUNIHAN
Further details in the record
Father Occupation NR
Sponsor 1 TIMOTHY FOLEY
Sponsor 2 HANORA COUNIHAN
Priest REV. J. COUNIHAN
About the record
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
4 1 4 KY-RC-BA-153160

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Nicola

Nicola Report 14 Aug 2014 22:36

Need some help to confirm the birth of John Mcmahon born 1886(born Cahersiveen, Kerry according to the 1911 census)
Now the family insist that he had a sister Teresa who married a Mr Morland.
John Mcmahon married Mary Foley in 1912 Birkenhead, He's father on Marriage cert is Patrick Mcmahon Deceased in 1912.
1901 census Caherersiveen Kerry,John Mcmahon born 1886 parents Patrick Mcmahon and Bridget Moriarty but no Teresa only a Teresa Mcmahon born 1882 Lancashire, parents Patrick Mcmahon and Mariam Farrell?? What to do next?seems I need to confirm john Mcmahon was born in 1886 in Kerry, with patrick as father, How do i do that? Tried searching roots Ireland no results.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 14 Aug 2014 23:06

Nicola....I am confused ...You originally were looking for the McMahon's from the Co Clare now you are looking at the Co Kerry.....Does all the Primary Source info.you have confirm the Co Kerry.....????

The Patrick McMahon (1901) plus family are not to be found in 1911 Census although some of the older children are still in Caher...