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Keith Lawrence aka George Alfred Lane (1920-1955)

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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Jul 2014 09:25

Yes, that is a possibility MarieCeleste.

Just having a quick look at the ERs to see if I can find a Keith Lawrence listed as an Electrician but I really must go and do some chores. Still trying to catch up after a holiday. :-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Jul 2014 09:17

I'm being devil's advocate here rootgatherer, but what if they had a child who left home before they attained voting age? They would then never be recorded with their parents.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 25 Jul 2014 09:07

I don't think that Joseph George Lawrence and Rachel May Lawrence had any children. You can follow them through the ERs until 1977 and there only seems to be the two of them.

Sarah

Sarah Report 25 Jul 2014 07:16

MarieCeleste.. No, my mother's birth certificate did not give ANY addresses at all. Father was listed as Keith Lawrence, Wonthaggi. That is it. NO other details about his location or anyone else's address.

brigid

brigid Report 24 Jul 2014 20:07

maybe an address would be on baptism records .
This story is fascinating ...keep us posted .

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Jul 2014 19:22

Sarah, did the birth certificate not give ANY addresses at all, not even where your mother was born or the usual address of June? (I know info on certs varies by states and I'm not sure what info they give as compared to those here in the UK)

Sarah

Sarah Report 24 Jul 2014 04:30

Yes, sorry - I meant Wonthaggi, not Wanthaggi..

And no, there was no address on my mother's birth certificate. It only said Wonthaggi.

And as far as I know, George was definitely an electrician. But - there are so many inconsistencies that I don't know what is what.

patchem

patchem Report 23 Jul 2014 07:15

Possible parents to Keith???

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Joseph George Lawrence
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1924
State: Victoria
District: Flinders
Subdistrict: Wonthaggi

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Rachel May Lawrence
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1924
State: Victoria
District: Flinders
Subdistrict: Wonthaggi

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Jul 2014 07:06

Sarah, was there an actual address on your mum's birth certificate?

I take it George definitely was an electrician?

patchem

patchem Report 23 Jul 2014 07:05

For those interested:

'Wonthaggi is located in South Gippsland, several kilometres inland from the coast and between the seaside towns of Kilcunda and Inverloch.' (in Victoria)

Sorry, this is 'Wonthaggi' you have written Wanthaggi - same place?

Sarah

Sarah Report 23 Jul 2014 00:07

I got June's details - her parents, her birth etc. My mother was born in Melbourne and lived in St Kilda.

The only info I have on "Keith Lawrence" from Wanthaggi is what is on my mother's birth certificate - age 32 (in 1952 when my mum was born) and occupation Electrician and from Wanthaggi. That is ALL I have on him.

I can not find anything else on him anywhere.

Sarah

Sarah Report 22 Jul 2014 11:55

I'm 95% certain that Keith and George are the same person, and during my life, I only knew him to use the name George.

The possibility that Keith and George are 2 separate people has occurred to me on occasion - usually when i'm frustrated with the search.

I guess that's the main reason for my original query - to ascertain whether George and Keith are the same person or 2 separate people.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jul 2014 08:54

Sarah, I know this is rather delicate and I don't mean to cause any offence, but it does seem a possibility that Keith Lawrence and George Alfred Lane were two different people.

Could Keith be your mum's father, he and June parted then she and George met (his wife having upped and offed back to England)? Could George's vagueness about his identity perhaps have been a way to protect June?

Obviously, you know your family best so would have an inkling if this was a possibility. Do you know if the names George and Keith were interchangeable throughout his life? Or was Keith the name up to a certain point and George thereafter?

I definitely think that immigration record is worth following up on and would be worth asking for access.

patchem

patchem Report 22 Jul 2014 07:06

Is this June with no Mr Lawrence?

Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
June Phyllis Lawrence
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1954
State: Victoria
District: Hoddle
Subdistrict: Carlton
(669 Rathdown Street)

When do you think he left her and Mr Lane moved in?

patchem

patchem Report 22 Jul 2014 06:47

Have you tried to find Keith Lawrence from Wonthaggi, Victoria?

(What was his occupation from your Mother's birth certificate?)

Have you found June on any ER's, and what surname was she using if found?

Have you got the names of June's parents?

Where was your Mother born (Street address?)

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2014 23:27

I do appreciate your help. I didn't mean to come across as rude or anything. I already had that info on the 1922 George Alfred Lane and gave it to my mother (who is George's daughter) and she seems to think it's not correct.

Having said that though, she did say there were a lot of inconsistencies with what he told people about himself - I put to my mother last night that perhaps the age on her birth certificate is wrong.

She did say that as far as she know, from what she's been told, her father left his wife behind in England with some kids - I suggested to her that this could also be wrong information based on the passenger records you posted - both inbound and outbound.

I don't know! I think I'll just investigate this person anyways and see what else I can find.

Thanks for the help. So far he is the only person on the tree no one in the family knows definite details about - apart from the date of his death.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2014 22:04

Nothing to be sorry for Choccy, shows we're consistent!

Choccy

Choccy Report 21 Jul 2014 21:09


Sorry MC, didn't see your posting, but will leave otherwise yours of 20.44 will appear nonsensical :-(

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2014 20:44

Choccy, when I posted that record earlier Sarah said it couldn't be her George Alfred Lane.

Choccy

Choccy Report 21 Jul 2014 20:24

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/Interface/ItemsListing.aspx


Item details for: A1877, LANE G A


LANE George Alfred born 26 July 1922; departing UK under the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme

Contents date range
1948 - 1950

Series number
A1877

Control symbol LANE G A

Item barcode 8046482

Location Canberra

Access status
Not yet examined

Physical format
PAPER FILES AND DOCUMENTS (allocated at series level)

Records authority class number 1021672

Date registered 15 Jul 2004